IronJimbo Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Treeing Me Apart said: I see. Is China not an OS territory? It doesn't count - because you want your favourite film to be the best, right? Reveal hidden contents Also, Last Jedi flopped in China and grossed more than all the HP movies except the last one. Take China out of Force Awakens gross and it still outgrossed all the HP films. The ACTUAL biggest franchise OS is Fast and Furious. Which its 2 most recent movies have grossed over 1B OS. But who really cares about actual factual numbers, on a box office forum? You can say the marvel films made more money overseas than harry potter, but you can't say they were bigger without taking into account all factors. Such as the international market size increasing. For instance you could say that avengers was bigger than Avatar in China, but it's just proportionally wrong. Afterall Avatar held the highest grossing of all time spot in China for some years, despite the booming market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebeccas Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, MrGlass2 said: Marvel movies are all adaptations, many people love the characters before a film is even announced. But I agree that it is more impressive when an original movie (like Avatar) reaches those levels. If you're talking about Spider-man, Batman, Wonder Woman- level heroes, sure. But I'm not sure how many people were huge fans of GOTG or Thor before the movies came out (or Iron Man for that matter). Either way, the comic book community is surely much more niche than best selling book phenomenons. At this point, a majority of people get excited when Marvel announces anything because of their movies, not cause of their pre-existing comic books. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyDeadlinePredictions Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 No early estimates for Wednesday? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Rebeccas said: If you're talking about Spider-man, Batman, Wonder Woman- level heroes, sure. But I'm not sure how many people were huge fans of GOTG or Thor before the movies came out (or Iron Man for that matter). Either way, the comic book community is surely much more niche than best selling book phenomenons. At this point, a majority of people get excited when Marvel announces anything because of their movies, not cause of their pre-existing comic books. They were marketed as franchise films part of the comic book universe universe... Imagine a world where that Thor film was the first MCU movie, or worse.. the first superhero movie. It wouldn't have grossed half of what it did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Thought I was gonna wake up to some numbers. Back to bed. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FantasticBeasts Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 31 minutes ago, Treeing Me Apart said: Harry Potter movies all did around 600M OS except the final one. In contrast, Civil War did 750M, IM3 800M, and both Avengers did 900M. As for Star Wars? Force Awakens did 1.1B OS. Jedi has done 700M. This #FakeNews delusion that @Noctis has attempted to trick everyone into believing, that "Potter is the biggest OS franchise" is 100% horseshit and simply, objectively, not true. It is concerning that after 10.000 posts you can make such a ridiculous comment, comparing numbers of films with +10 years gap without taking into account developing markets and ticket price. The first Potters weren't evem released in China that's the only thing you need to know. Not to mention that only with basic adjustment for ticket prices most Potters are well beyond MCU's numbers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHeartJames Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, EarlyDeadlinePredictions said: No early estimates for Wednesday? our god has forsaken us 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabiopazzo2 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, EarlyDeadlinePredictions said: No early estimates for Wednesday? Wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, IronJimbo said: They were marketed as franchise films part of the comic book universe universe... Imagine a world where that Thor film was the first MCU movie, or worse.. the first superhero movie. It wouldn't have grossed half of what it did. Imagine a world where Avatar didn't have 3d... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Avatar and Potter discussions... Yep, Panther is a phenom 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGlass2 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chewy said: Avatar and Potter discussions... Yep, Panther is a phenom Or it is a day that ends with -y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Just now, MrGlass2 said: Or it is a day that ends with -y. What did everyone think of The Last Jedi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 43 minutes ago, Treeing Me Apart said: Harry Potter movies all did around 600M OS except the final one. In contrast, Civil War did 750M, IM3 800M, and both Avengers did 900M. As for Star Wars? Force Awakens did 1.1B OS. Jedi has done 700M. This #FakeNews delusion that @Noctis has attempted to trick everyone into believing, that "Potter is the biggest OS franchise" is 100% horseshit and simply, objectively, not true. Comparing different dollar at face value is really similar if you would have some of those movies listed in Canadian dollar and some in US dollar. It can be hard to transfer movie size from different year, but in this case you are talking about 2 franchise playing at the same time at one point to give some direct comparable. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2002&sort=osgross&order=DESC&p=.htm 2 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets WB $879.0 $262.0 29.8% $617.0 70.2% 1 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers NL $923.3 $339.8 36.8% $583.5 63.2% 3 Spider-Man Sony $821.7 $403.7 49.1% $418.0 50.9% 4 Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones Fox $640.9 $302.2 47.2% $338.7 52.8% http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2005&sort=osgross&order=DESC&p=.htm 1 Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire WB $896.9 $290.0 32.3% $606.9 67.7% 2 Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith Fox $848.8 $380.3 44.8% $468.5 55.2% Without even taking markets expansions into account the first Potter movie made 891m 2016 US dollar oversea minus China and was the biggest international movie by almost 20% (and that over an other oversea monster Lord of the Ring), Civil War did 564m and was the biggest movie oversea by 10% that year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75Live Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Just now, Chewy said: What did everyone think of The Last Jedi best movie I have seen so far in 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Chewy said: What did everyone think of The Last Jedi Haven't seen it. Is it any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, Chewy said: Avatar and Potter discussions... Yep, Panther is a phenom All we need are the Nolanites to come forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPink Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, ecstasy said: All we need are the Nolanites to come forth. Good morning. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 47 minutes ago, IronJimbo said: You can say the marvel films made more money overseas than harry potter, but you can't say they were bigger without taking into account all factors. Such as the international market size increasing. For instance you could say that avengers was bigger than Avatar in China, but it's just proportionally wrong. Afterall Avatar held the highest grossing of all time spot in China for some years, despite the booming market. Yes, you can say Avengers was bigger than Avatar, because it was. It made more money. That's how box office works. What do you mean by "Marvel films made more money but they weren't bigger". That literally means nothing. 42 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said: It is concerning that after 10.000 posts you can make such a ridiculous comment, comparing numbers of films with +10 years gap without taking into account developing markets and ticket price. The first Potters weren't evem released in China that's the only thing you need to know. Not to mention that only with basic adjustment for ticket prices most Potters are well beyond MCU's numbers. I'm aware that the numbers don't include inflation, but for example DH1 made 660M, Avengers made 900M two years later. Does the rest of the world have a 40% inflation rate in two years? Hmm. Why does it matter that it wasn't in China? Like literally how is that relevant. In some markets Harry Potter is bigger than MCU and Star Wars, in some it is not. But overall speaking, internationally, overseas, both Avengers and Star Wars make more money. Simple as that. Sorry. Might also mention that Fantastic Beasts had China and it doesn't change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpireCity Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 $15m 10 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, EmpireCity said: $15m -28% from a massive Tuesday? Excellent! EDIT: on par with Deadpool's 25.5%, given that Tuesday are getting bigger every year Edited February 22, 2018 by feasby007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
