Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom | December 22, 2023 | David Leslie Johnson-McGoldrick (co-writer of first film) returns

[ChipDerby]

Fans rejecting the last movie in a dead franchise/universe??? You don't say!

[dallas]

Just now, ChipDerby said:

Fans rejecting the last movie in a dead franchise/universe??? You don't say!

I think the fans are just ready for the DCU at this point, and Aquaman didn't do anything but reinforce that. 

[SpiderByte]

31 minutes ago, DInky said:

 

Don't forget WW->WW84.

In fairness that one replaced most of the supporting cast, vs Shazam and Aquaman where the casts are largely the same. In Aquaman both the main villains are back too!

[Blaze Heatnix]

16 minutes ago, PlatnumRoyce said:

Yeah, B- is modal outcome but C+ really shouldn't be treated as of the table. Remember, the fact you don't have a "% positive" to cite here is also minor evidence that it's currently below the others. 

 

C+ is definitely not happening to Aquaman 2. Catwoman got a B and even Dark Phoenix got a B-

[PlatnumRoyce]

26 minutes ago, Blaze Heatnix said:

 

C+ is definitely not happening to Aquaman 2. Catwoman got a B and even Dark Phoenix got a B-

Probably not...but these posttrak scores are literally identical to those generated by Dark Phoenix (3 stars/69% positive/49% recommend). "Even Dark Phoenix" doesn't work with these numbers

https://deadline.com/2019/06/dark-phoenix-secret-life-of-pets-2-weekend-box-office-1202628724/

 

"4 stars" from kids can mean as low as 78% of them gave a good review. It's not as amazing as it sounds even if it's a good anecdote they wanted to throw up (while presumably ducking from posting a slightly sub 70% positive score). The only notably positive number cited was 5 stars from parents. 

Edited December 22, 2023 by PlatnumRoyce

[Super]

Update, I think it maybe the Amber haters impacting the score. Saw some complaining on Twitter that she’s still in the movie… idk though just a theory. 

[SpiderByte]

56 minutes ago, Super said:

Update, I think it maybe the Amber haters impacting the score. Saw some complaining on Twitter that she’s still in the movie… idk though just a theory. 

Maybe, but the negative reactions is too widespread to only be that. Though it certainly doesn't help.

[GogoGadget]

Can you people believe the last DCEU film to make over $400 million worldwide is the first Aquaman, which was released 5 years ago? 

[Speedorito]

3 hours ago, ChipDerby said:

Fans rejecting the last movie in a dead franchise/universe??? You don't say!

Well…if people are showing up they’re not rejecting it for being in a dead franchise. They’re rejecting it because they saw it and didn’t like it. 3 stars and a 76% vRT is not because Superman: Legacy is coming in 2025.

[marveldcfox]

Wb did everything they could to bury this film. If it somehow does Alita numbers worldwide that would be impressive. 

[dallas]

5 minutes ago, marveldcfox said:

Wb did everything they could to bury this film. If it somehow does Alita numbers worldwide that would be impressive. 

I don't think it does Alita numbers, but above The Flash seems like a good chance

[ZeeSoh]

4 hours ago, Super said:

Update, I think it maybe the Amber haters impacting the score. Saw some complaining on Twitter that she’s still in the movie… idk though just a theory. 

Why would Amber haters go see the movie in which she is in, that too on preview night/OD?

[dallas]

1 minute ago, ZeeSoh said:

Why would Amber haters go see the movie in which she is in, that too on preview night/OD?

Don't know but I did see a few verified audience reviews on RT that basically just were "Amber Heard sucks 1/5 stars"

[Super]

39 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

Why would Amber haters go see the movie in which she is in, that too on preview night/OD?

They didn’t know she was in it hence they’re pissed lol. The movie did go out of its way not to show her in 99% of the marketing. 

Edited December 22, 2023 by Super
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[Super]

1 hour ago, dallas said:

I don't think it does Alita numbers, but above The Flash seems like a good chance

It’s easily going above The Flash unless it randomly falls off a cliff during the biggest box office period for some extreme reason. 

[Old Spice]

That was a lot better than I thought it was going to be. Sloppy, goofy, and a whole lot of fun. Scattered clapping at the end in my screening. On to the Gunnverse!

 

3 tridents out of 4.

[ZeeSoh]

28 minutes ago, Super said:

They didn’t know she was in it hence they’re pissed lol. The movie did go out of its way not to show her in 99% of the marketing. 

She was in one of the trailers, although admittedly for a very short while. Regardless I doubt there were enough of such people to skew posttrack data in any significant way. We knew for a long time that the movie has not tested well with audiences and the reviews across the board from critics are terrible. That is enough to show that the preview/OD audiences found the movie bad enough without needing a very small subsection of the fans skewing it. 

[Super]

17 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

She was in one of the trailers, although admittedly for a very short while. Regardless I doubt there were enough of such people to skew posttrack data in any significant way. We knew for a long time that the movie has not tested well with audiences and the reviews across the board from critics are terrible. That is enough to show that the preview/OD audiences found the movie bad enough without needing a very small subsection of the fans skewing it. 

If you blinked when she appeared in the trailer then you would miss her lol. Even her supporters thought she wasn’t going to be in the movie. Hence I said she was absent from 99% of the marketing, she’s only in that fraction of a second shot.
 

We’ll see if Friday’s audience skews the score more positive a bit but I was not accrediting Heard haters for the Cinemascore but more the RT score. But there’s many flaws with my theory,

 

[Welcbr12]

I arrived from the cinema, what the hell was that? If it weren't for the beautiful under water scenes I would never say that this movie was directed by James Wan, It's one of the most heartless movies I've seen in a long time, I liked the energy of the first one so muchI and here she's gone, the jokes don't land at all, the dialogues are terrible, the VFX fails often but still has beautiful scenes at least, I really didn't expect that the character that piss me off the most in the movie would be Aquaman, but Momoa is terrible here, he chose to go down in a path that I didn't expected, I didn't think it would be a masterpiece from everything I saw out there and that some friends who watched it before me said, but this movie surprised me, it was much worse than I thought. 

[TigerPaw]

2 hours ago, ZeeSoh said:

She was in one of the trailers, although admittedly for a very short while. Regardless I doubt there were enough of such people to skew posttrack data in any significant way. We knew for a long time that the movie has not tested well with audiences and the reviews across the board from critics are terrible. That is enough to show that the preview/OD audiences found the movie bad enough without needing a very small subsection of the fans skewing it. 

TBH; I would say most ppl underestimated her screen time because she appear less than a second in 1 trailer, and then disappeared from all marketing materials and not found in any posters at all. So it is really very possible people rate the movie down because of her screen time