PKMLover Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, RamblinRed said: What a run this is having, by far the most interesting movie to follow this summer. It has moved ahead of IJ4 in cumulative to this point. It actually had more consecutive days above $2M than AE did (31 to 26) even though it opened to a 3-day barely 1/4th of AE. On Saturday it will pass AE on consecutive days in the top 5. It will likely finish with the number in the range below EG's OW tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poweranimals Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 hours ago, gary said: Or troll rush to vote it down. Because last night it was going from 75% down to 68% in minutes. Now its up to 74% You have to actually buy a ticket to vote now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiazhi Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 hours ago, gary said: How is making almost 4 times its budget underwhelming who made 4 times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, xiazhi said: who made 4 times? Shazam. Its budget is $80-100 million. It made $364 million. That is between 3.7-4.2 times its budget at the boxoffice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmscholar Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Does anyone think SpideyFFH will get a Post Endgame bump like Capt' Marvel got a Pre Endgame bump? Speaking of Endgame, Interesting they are doing the bonus footage now instead of saving that to push it for Home Video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Reynolds Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 minute ago, filmscholar said: Does anyone think SpideyFFH will get a Post Endgame bump like Capt' Marvel got a Pre Endgame bump? Speaking of Endgame, Interesting they are doing the bonus footage now instead of saving that to push it for Home Video. Probably enough for a billion, but not much more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Carducci Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Already 2 sold out showings for AE at empire 25 in NYC for Friday. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZattMurdock Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Richard Carducci said: Already 2 sold out showings for AE at empire 25 in NYC for Friday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmscholar Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said: Probably enough for a billion, but not much more I'm still floored that as popular as Spidey is he doesn't have a Billion grosser yet. Spidey 1 still has the domestic crown from 17 years ago. Spidey 3 still has the worldwide crown from 12 years ago. And the Franchise broke the OW record twice already. 1 Spider-Man 3 Sony $890.9 $336.5 37.8% $554.3 62.2% 2007 2 Spider-Man: Homecoming Sony $880.2 $334.2 38% $546.0 62% 2017 3 Spider-Man Sony $821.7 $403.7 49.1% $418.0 50.9% 2002 4 Spider-Man 2 Sony $783.8 $373.6 47.7% $410.2 52.3% 2004 5 The Amazing Spider-Man Sony $757.9 $262.0 34.6% $495.9 65.4% 2012 6 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Sony $709.0 $202.9 28.6% $506.1 71.4% 2014 7 Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse Sony $375.5 $190.2 50.7% $185.2 49.3% 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserHN Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, gary said: Big profit is more like it i think. It made 366 million without relying on China much either from a budget of $85-100 million budget. How is it a big profit? The prod budget is 80-100. The marketing/P&A budget is most likely 100-150, which is the norm these days. The studios only get about half from the theatrical revenue. So for Shazam's 366, let's assume they get 180. Best case is it will barely breakeven in its theatrical revenues. For it to make huge profit, it will have to sell big in ancillaries and merchandising. Edited June 26, 2019 by UserHN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, ZattMurdock said: If it catches Avatar. It will be short its invetiable it will get a re-release under Disney for the first time to create buzz for Avatar 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, UserHN said: How is it a big profit? The prod budget is 80-100. The marketing/P&A budget is most likely more 100-150, which is the norm these days. The studios only get about half from the theatrical revenue. So for Shazam's 366, let's assume they get 180. Best case is it will barely breakeven in its theatrical revenues. For it to make huge profit, it will have to sell big in ancillaries and merchandising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserHN Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, gary said: Yeah. The dumb answer from someone who doesn't have a good rebuttal. I am assuming that you actually forgot that there's a so-called marketing/P&A budget. All you talk about is prod budget but in many cases, marketing blockbusters costs the studios more than what they spend for production. Like I said, Shazam needs huge help from ancillaries and merchandising because WB won't get much from theatrical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZattMurdock Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, gary said: If it catches Avatar. It will be short its invetiable it will get a re-release under Disney for the first time to create buzz for Avatar 2. I am aware of that and it’s definitely fair. I’ve been saying the very same thing on the Avengers: Endgame OT. One thing to consider though: just like I expect Avatar to eventually get a re-release, same can be said for The Avengers, Age of Ultron, Infinity War and, well, Endgame. The competition between Endgame and Avatar will be something that Disney can keep profiting on for the years to come, since I don’t expect any other film to come close in the next ten years, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonytr87 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 It's quite dumb that TS4 is being considered a disappointment. Literally the only reason for the sky high expectations was good reviews, despite us all knowing that good reviews don't improve squat half the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdsacken Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 lmao if Shazam is a big success Ant Man is a miracle and Captain Marvel is the greatest success of all time. Come on it was a mildly successful medium budget film deserving of a sequel. Pikachu did bad enough to not even merit a sequel just like Alita but a little better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdsacken Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 hours ago, a2k said: Shazam being a small hit? Why folks can't gather what 140 dom means for a 100 prod budget. And that the 223+ OS has only 42-43 from China. Shazam's theatrical returns on 363+ ww compared to it's prod budget make it a bigger 'hit' than Pikachu's 425+ ww. Shazam with 363 ww 140*0.55 = 77 dom 180*0.40 = 72 os-ch 43*0.25 = 11 ch 77 + 72 + 11 = 160 theatrical on 100 prod budget Pikachu (guessing a final cume of 429 ww. Is a bit over 425 with a trailing run) 143*0.55 = 78.7 dom 192*0.40 = 77.8 os-ch 94*0.25 = 23.5 78.7 + 77.8 + 23.5 = 179 theatrical on 150 prod budget No doubt Shazam was a small success, Pikachu was not. Not a failure but a disappointing result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiazhi Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 54 minutes ago, gary said: Shazam. Its budget is $80-100 million. It made $364 million. That is between 3.7-4.2 times its budget at the boxoffice Its budget is 100m. All of Variety (98M), deadline, hollywood report and BOM give that number. It made 3.6x of budget. 3x is the breakeven number and 3.6x is considered underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdsacken Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, sfran43 said: June 23 % Change from Last Wknd Toy Story 4 Disney / Pixar $60,800,000 $243,800,000 -50% Annabelle Comes Home Warner Bros. / New Line $27,000,000 $43,700,000 NEW Yesterday Universal $10,000,000 $10,000,000 NEW Aladdin (2019) Disney $9,200,000 $305,800,000 -31% The Secret Life of Pets 2 Universal / Illumination $7,600,000 $132,100,000 -26% Men In Black International Sony / Columbia $5,500,000 $63,700,000 -49% Child’s Play (2019) United Artists Releasing $5,200,000 $25,000,000 -63% Rocketman Paramount $3,500,000 $84,000,000 -38% Avengers: Endgame Disney / Marvel $2,900,000+ $838,600,000+ 46% John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum Lionsgate / Summit $2,700,000 $160,900,000 -34% 2.9m with 2000 screens after the update? Jesus what a terrible prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, UserHN said: Yeah. The dumb answer from someone who doesn't have a good rebuttal. I am assuming that you actually forgot that there's a so-called marketing/P&A budget. All you talk about is prod budget but in many cases, marketing blockbusters costs the studios more than what they spend for production. Like I said, Shazam needs huge help from ancillaries and merchandising because WB won't get much from theatrical. 10 minutes ago, cdsacken said: lmao if Shazam is a big success Ant Man is a miracle and Captain Marvel is the greatest success of all time. Come on it was a mildly successful medium budget film deserving of a sequel. Pikachu did bad enough to not even merit a sequel just like Alita but a little better. 8 minutes ago, xiazhi said: Its budget is 100m. All of Variety (98M), deadline, hollywood report and BOM give that number. It made 3.6x of budget. 3x is the breakeven number and 3.6x is considered underwhelming. So what are these then major flops ? Captain America 1 made 2.6 its budget Thor 1 made 2.9 its budget Thor 2 made 3.7 its budget Ant-Man made 3.9 its budget with relying on China making over 100 million there Ant-Man 2 made 3.2 its budget also relying on China with over 100 miilion there. Iron Man 2 made 3.1 its budget Shazam made 3.6 its budget without relying on China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
