mmacader Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Some interesting Facts and figures UK cinema admissions and box office Annual admissions – 1935 onwards The table below shows trends in UK cinema admissions (millions) since 1935. From an historic high immediately post-war of 1.64 billion in 1946, UK cinema admissions gradually declined to an all-time low of just 54 million in 1984. Since that time, the advent of the multiplex, and record levels of investment in improving the theatrical experience (still ongoing), have seen admissions recover such that since 2000, they have remained (sometimes significantly so) above 150 million. Year Admissions (m) Year Admissions (m) Year Admissions (m) Year Admissions (m) Year Admissions (m) 1935 912.30 1951 1,365.00 1967 264.80 1983 65.70 1999 139.75 1936 917.00 1952 1,312.10 1968 237.30 1984 54.00 2000 142.50 1937 946.00 1953 1,284.50 1969 214.90 1985 72.00 2001 155.90 1938 987.00 1954 1,275.80 1970 193.00 1986 75.50 2002 175.90 1939 990.00 1955 1,181.80 1971 176.00 1987 78.50 2003 167.20 1940 1,027.00 1956 1,100.80 1972 156.60 1988 84.00 2004 171.20 1941 1,309.00 1957 915.20 1973 134.20 1989 94.50 2005 164.60 1942 1,494.00 1958 754.70 1974 138.50 1990 97.37 2006 156.60 1943 1,541.00 1959 581.00 1975 116.30 1991 100.29 2007 162.50 1944 1,575.00 1960 500.80 1976 103.90 1992 103.64 2008 164.20 1945 1,585.00 1961 449.10 1977 103.50 1993 114.36 2009 173.50 1946 1,635.00 1962 395.00 1978 126.10 1994 123.53 2010 169.20 1947 1,462.00 1963 357.20 1979 111.90 1995 114.56 2011 171.60 1948 1,514.00 1964 342.80 1980 101.00 1996 123.80 2012 172.50 1949 1,430.00 1965 326.80 1981 86.00 1997 139.30 2013 165.50 1950 1,395.80 1966 288.80 1982 64.00 1998 135.50 2014 157.50 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 With SW being so huge, 2015 may be able to beat 2002's admissions and become the biggest year since 1971, or 1970. It'll be close. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmacader Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I don't know how accurate this site is but this one has admission http://www.25thframe.co.uk/charts/top-uk-films-by-ticket-sales.php 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) In terms of admissions, this sounds way more plausible. For gross however, it's up in the air. There's no way Skyfall can adjust to £128m after just 3 years. More like £110m. Another thing. Their average ticket price of £6.72 is so low. Which cinema offers ticket prices, even for children, that low? I reckon it's more like £8. On the other hand, SW 1977's figure here is much more believable than the impossible £75m adjusted BFI had. Going by this, I'd expect admissions for TFA in the end to be in the 17-19m range. The truth is, we'll never really know for sure. Edited December 30, 2015 by Heretic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildphantom Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Any figures for Tuesday yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 16 minutes ago, wildphantom said: Any figures for Tuesday yet? £5.7m given by Alfred. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Ian Sandwell @ian_sandwell 22 mins22 minutes ago Star Wars: The Force Awakens up to around £78m at end of play Tuesday. Hard to believe, but could be threatening £100m this weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daxtreme Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 2 minutes ago, terrestrial said: Ian Sandwell @ian_sandwell 22 mins22 minutes ago Star Wars: The Force Awakens up to around £78m at end of play Tuesday. Hard to believe, but could be threatening £100m this weekend. So it's threatening all-time UK box office after 3 weeks? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Daxtreme said: So it's threatening all-time UK box office after 3 weeks? That even includes a closed down day (or more or less closed?) Here I am sure will someone know/give the best answer I think I should more often give a link into this thread, or? Edited December 30, 2015 by terrestrial typos (need a new keyboard too) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 Yeah, I don't see it missing £100m by Sunday now. £5.5m today, £4m tomorrow, £4.5m Friday, £5m Saturday, £4m Sunday. £101m, and I've stayed pretty conservative, having the weekend numbers lower than weekdays. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildphantom Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 54 minutes ago, Heretic said: Yeah, I don't see it missing £100m by Sunday now. £5.5m today, £4m tomorrow, £4.5m Friday, £5m Saturday, £4m Sunday. £101m, and I've stayed pretty conservative, having the weekend numbers lower than weekdays. Gobsmacking. The exhibitors were confident, but the ease with which this is cruising past Avatar is remarkable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mepal1 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 40 minutes ago, wildphantom said: Gobsmacking. The exhibitors were confident, but the ease with which this is cruising past Avatar is remarkable. I think most of us expected SWTFA to have a massive opening, and continue very strongly, but these daily box office figures from N.America and the UK are quite staggering. The way SWTFA is propelling itself up the BO leaderboard is unprecedented. To put this into context, Spectre was a big hit in the UK, (though its legs weren't as strong as Skyfall), but even this film is just crawling upto Avatars total (it should be about there now). One other point, going back to the UK all-time BO chart, the admissions figures that some have quoted here from various sites, are actually the figures from BFI. Over a decade ago the BFI in conjunction with Channel 4 (i believe), did some research into what were truly the most popular films at the UK box office, and they came out with a list that had Gone With The Wind at No.1 with some estimated 35 mil admissions. Personally i take these estimated admission figures as a rough guide only, and one only needs to compare them with the estimated? admission figures from the European Lumiere site, to see that there can be some very large discrepancies in these admission figures. I don't understand, why the UK cinema market doesn't record admission figures, like many countries in Europe do, as surely its quite a simple thing to do, and it really is the only true way to record a films success. But, it seems that the UK and N.American film markets like the money figure better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 In many ways the UK is as impressive as DOM Good job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdevidem01 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I'd say the UK has been more impressive tbh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rthmessiah Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) On 12/29/2015 at 3:23 AM, Heretic said: Unfortunately admissions in the UK aren't really tracked, we rarely get data on it. However, Lumiere tracks admissions for films in European countries. According to them, Skyfall's admissions were 16.15m, DH2 12.06m, Avatar 16.5m and Titanic 18.9m. It seems strange that Avatar, having grossed £8m less than Skyfall and having 3D would have more admissions, but there's a lot to take into account like 3D shares and premiums, as well as share of adults/kids, as kids tickets are cheaper etc etc. Obviously we have no clue what kind of 3D share or adult-child ratio SW is having, but I'm sure its admissions will be somewhere in the 15-20m range by the end of its run. 3 hours ago, mepal1 said: I think most of us expected SWTFA to have a massive opening, and continue very strongly, but these daily box office figures from N.America and the UK are quite staggering. The way SWTFA is propelling itself up the BO leaderboard is unprecedented. To put this into context, Spectre was a big hit in the UK, (though its legs weren't as strong as Skyfall), but even this film is just crawling upto Avatars total (it should be about there now). One other point, going back to the UK all-time BO chart, the admissions figures that some have quoted here from various sites, are actually the figures from BFI. Over a decade ago the BFI in conjunction with Channel 4 (i believe), did some research into what were truly the most popular films at the UK box office, and they came out with a list that had Gone With The Wind at No.1 with some estimated 35 mil admissions. Personally i take these estimated admission figures as a rough guide only, and one only needs to compare them with the estimated? admission figures from the European Lumiere site, to see that there can be some very large discrepancies in these admission figures. I don't understand, why the UK cinema market doesn't record admission figures, like many countries in Europe do, as surely its quite a simple thing to do, and it really is the only true way to record a films success. But, it seems that the UK and N.American film markets like the money figure better! don't have time whole admits/ inflation etc atm, yeah Heretic check at some point but Lumiere admits don't sound right, Avatar for starters had around 90% (3D/Imax) much much higher tkt average TFA for example around 40%. Whole lot factors regarding ratios adult/child, format, discounts etc. Of cuff example actual admits in Australia while Avatar BO was double Titanic in actual (not estimated) admits Titanic was around 500k more TFA will have much higher admits then Avatar. These days however because 3D in particlular is dying in lot markets even with 3D titles the tkt average for those has come down a lot due to ratio among other things. France which a lot may not know do not initially track BO at all its all admits the BO is fully estimated from admits they get, they don't get BO until the theatres submit their BO reports (end week thru end month) and film rental is calculated and then see how close the Est BO is to actual Old titles total different landscape back then like 100% different lol Edited December 30, 2015 by Rth 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Alfred Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Wed looking £5.5m 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Its a beast for sure. How much can it gross after this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) 11 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said: Its a beast for sure. How much can it gross after this weekend. Heretic said around 100M Pounds after the weekend. Edit: You mean total. My guess it won't completely collapse so 135-140M Pounds. Edited December 31, 2015 by druv10 Maul 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 If 3rd weekend is somewhere between £13-15m, I don't see how it misses £130m. January and February are virtually competition free. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokila Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 9 hours ago, Rth said: don't have time whole admits/ inflation etc atm, yeah Heretic check at some point but Lumiere admits don't sound right, Avatar for starters had around 90% (3D/Imax) much much higher tkt average TFA for example around 40%. Whole lot factors regarding ratios adult/child, format, discounts etc. Of cuff example actual admits in Australia while Avatar BO was double Titanic in actual (not estimated) admits Titanic was around 500k more TFA will have much higher admits then Avatar. These days however because 3D in particlular is dying in lot markets even with 3D titles the tkt average for those has come down a lot due to ratio among other things. France which a lot may not know do not initially track BO at all its all admits the BO is fully estimated from admits they get, they don't get BO until the theatres submit their BO reports (end week thru end month) and film rental is calculated and then see how close the Est BO is to actual Old titles total different landscape back then like 100% different lol thanks super informative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...