charlie Jatinder Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Some of early WED #s Korea - $5.3M France - $4.5M Russia - $3.75M Italy - $3.5M Germany - $1.8M Taiwan - $1.5M Hong Kong - $1.1M Argentina - $0.7M 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Shanks said: So... This is my 'Its now doing at least those numbers' USA + Canada - 700m South Korea - 63m Japan - 45m India - 28m Taiwan - 22m Hong Kong - 15m Malaysia - 10m Indonesia - 12m Singapore - 10m Thailand - 8m Rest of SEA - 12m ASIA - China - 225m+ Middle East - 30m+ Australia + NZ - 55m+ Mexico - 50m+ Brazil - 40m+ LATAM (as whole) - 120m+ UK - 55m France - 35m Germany - 25m Russia/CIS - 20m Italy - 25m Spain - 20m Nordic Lands - 20m Rest of Europe - 20m Europe (As whole) = 220m+ [I expect this number to touch 250 or 275m here] OS - China = 650m Total - 1.35b+ (Without China) I think if you go by it will do atleast this: your italy number is very high. I mean it has more chance to atleast do 35m in Germany (vs 25m noted) than to do atleast 25m in italy. Spain also very high as a botom number. Obviously with a $3.44m OD in italy $25m probably is quite reasonable. Disclaimer, if those where you estimates on the totals I would agree with Spain / Italy but then the numbers of France / Germany / Uk would be way to low. Edited December 16, 2021 by pepsa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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charlie Jatinder Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Celebrate. Country Gross Asia China India $35.00 South Korea $70.00 Japan $40.00 Taiwan $20.00 Hong Kong $16.00 South East Asia $50.00 Middle East $40.00 Russia/CIS $35.00 Rest $3.00 Oceania Australia $45.00 New Zealand $6.00 Europe UK $90.00 France $45.00 Germany $40.00 Italy $25.00 Spain $18.00 Netherlands $10.00 Nordic $25.00 Rest $40.00 Latin America Mexico $55.00 Brazil $40.00 Rest $60.00 Africa Africa $5.00 Total $813.00 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Just now, charlie Jatinder said: Celebrate Why we celebrate low nums 😒 Spoiler I will accept 800s if I must, but in all seriousness seems like either sub 300 open or weak Xmas legs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danhjpn Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said: Celebrate. Country Gross Asia China India $35.00 South Korea $70.00 Japan $40.00 Taiwan $20.00 Hong Kong $16.00 South East Asia $50.00 Middle East $40.00 Russia/CIS $35.00 Rest $3.00 Oceania Australia $45.00 New Zealand $6.00 Europe UK $90.00 France $45.00 Germany $40.00 Italy $25.00 Spain $18.00 Netherlands $10.00 Nordic $25.00 Rest $40.00 Latin America Mexico $55.00 Brazil $40.00 Rest $60.00 Africa Africa $5.00 Total $813.00 So... the outstanding WOM doesn't help it at all? Legs quite weak, under 3x. Edited December 16, 2021 by Danhjpn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 You gotta lova that the euro lost 4% of it's value in since september 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLC Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) With China and without COVID, it would have been $1.3B INT ... #4 best all time behind Avatar, EG, Titanic and IW. And maybe even $2B WW ? Edited December 16, 2021 by LPLC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 So around $10m OD in UK. Huge. Looking at $35m+ opening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, Product Driven Legion said: Why we celebrate low nums 😒 Reveal hidden contents I will accept 800s if I must, but in all seriousness seems like either sub 300 open or weak Xmas legs Celebrate as in you got the numbers to base on. Now do your own +/-s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, pepsa said: You gotta lova that the euro lost 4% of it's value in since september Was gonna say that these ER lose shit when MCU movie releases. Spoiler I mean just April 2018 ER and we would have Endgame comfortably over $2.9B. Fuck those Apr 2019 rates. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Good rates in Brazil are worth like $100M by itself 😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Product Driven Legion said: Good rates in Brazil are worth like $100M by itself 😔 I know south America has been hit by very bad ER, just as Russia has been / Turkey. But ticket prices / inflation if ticket prices also shot up alot in those countries. This probably doesn't cover it fully, but I think the USD ticket prices hasn't dropped nearly as much. Whilst if a currency like the Euro or the CYN doesn't do the same course correction. What I mean is if the euro goes from 1.1 dollar / euro to 1.35 euro / dollar ticket prices won't fall in Europe. But with hype inflated markets prices will go up drasticly (although it takes some times to adjust). What I ment to say that if the Euro / CNY and other more stable currencies lose vallue inflation won't be much higher than usual to make up for it. Ofc this works the other way as well, if the Euro would reach 1.4 dollar / euro next month prices of tickets woudn't go down but it would inflate the global usd boxoffice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 This movie was for sure a 2 billion earner in normal times , right now i have no idea BUT i would still give it solid chances one thing is sure though (if china releases) , it will be VERY VERY CLOSE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 37 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said: Some of early WED #s Korea - $5.3M France - $4.5M Russia - $3.75M Italy - $3.5M Germany - $1.8M Taiwan - $1.5M Hong Kong - $1.1M Argentina - $0.7M South Korea: good => $29-31m OW i guess => $70m seems very reasonable could go a bit lower, might go a bit higher who knows. France: Seems like a great number => $18-20m OW => with this OW i do fully expect a total of over 55m. With xmas 2.5 multi is the least it will do. Ofc EG only did $63 so i get why you are causious Russia: for some reason lower than i expected, I am not super familar with the Russian + CIS market but 35m from a 3.75m OD seems a bit high. But I trust you on this Italy => 3.5m OD on par with IW => should give OW of $13m - $15m total of about 25m seems correct Germany: am I wrong to think this is very low, was this full release or only screenings after a certain hour / limited capacity? => $11-13m OW? => should still end around $40m 3-4x is what I would expect. Last 3 I haven't looked in to since EG so again I will take ur word on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, pepsa said: I know south America has been hit by very bad ER, just as Russia has been / Turkey. But ticket prices / inflation if ticket prices also shot up alot in those countries. This probably doesn't cover it fully, but I think the USD ticket prices hasn't dropped nearly as much. Whilst if a currency like the Euro or the CYN doesn't do the same course correction. What I mean is if the euro goes from 1.1 dollar / euro to 1.35 euro / dollar ticket prices won't fall in Europe. But with hype inflated markets prices will go up drasticly (although it takes some times to adjust). What I ment to say that if the Euro / CNY and other more stable currencies lose vallue inflation won't be much higher than usual to make up for it. Ofc this works the other way as well, if the Euro would reach 1.4 dollar / euro next month prices of tickets woudn't go down but it would inflate the global usd boxoffice. Yeah some markets inflation do match ER but most of them don't. Brazil would be among latter. The Avengers had $5.8 ATP. IW $4.55. EG $4.35. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) Just realized there are many territories where this won’t even do highest grossing Sony Edited December 16, 2021 by Product Driven Legion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danhjpn Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Product Driven Legion said: Just realized there are many territories where this won’t even do highest grossing Sony why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Product Driven Legion said: Just realized there are many territories where this won’t even do highest grossing Sony UK for one and most of Europe. BOND. Edited December 16, 2021 by charlie Jatinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Danhjpn said: why? 13 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said: UK for one and most of Europe. BOND. ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
