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On 8/26/2022 at 10:05 AM, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie TC Shows Change Standard Last PSA PLF IMAX 3D
The Invitation 2,655 43,127   40,148   2,979 0 0
Dragon Ball Super 2,752 40,241 -23.73% 37,099 339.98 3,142 775 0
Beast 3,131 39,313 -21.75% 38,731 201.00 582 0 0
Years of Longing 2,230 32,529   31,521   1,008 0 0
Bullet Train 2,821 30,576 -16.12% 30,466 220.21 110 0 0
Super-Pets 2,731 27,836 -16.30% 27,758 170.90 78 0 0
Top Gun 2 2,465 26,421 -5.83% 25,355 210.80 1,066 402 0
Thor 4 2,047 21,885 -17.16% 21,812 153.88 73 0 30
Minions 2 2,130 20,824 -18.72% 20,641 145.35 183 0 155
Crawdads 1,870 19,050 -15.20% 19,015 142.57 35 0 0
Nope 1,621 15,462 -30.09% 15,445 161.98 17 0 0
Breaking 891 12,196   12,171   25 0 0
Bodies Bodies 1,692 11,614 -60.74% 11,582 89.42 32 0 0
Elvis 1,500 10,684 +4.21% 9,109 193.36 1,575 301 0
Jurassic World 3 1,290 7,300 +180.99% 7,100 205.38 200 0 189
Orphan: First Kill 518 6,543   6,532   11 0 0
Fall 731 4,986 -67.94% 4,986 85.13 0 0 0
Easter Sunday 304 2,581 -67.89% 2,581 115.98 0 0 0
Rogue One 243 2,431   0   2,431 2,431 0
The Black Phone 316 2,294 -43.88% 2,294 136.14 0 0 0

 

US Showtime Sample for 8/26/22 Weekend

 

OW shows comps

The Invitation - 43,127 (2,655 TC)

 - Escape Room 2 - 45,204 (2,482)

 - Don't Breathe 2 - 43,638 (2,644)

 - Cry Macho - 42,749 (3,268)

Three Thousand Years of Longing - 32,529 (2,230 TC)

 - Memory - 31,063 (2,233)

 - Many Saints - 32,703 (2,807)

 - Last Duel - 32,124 (2,731)

 - Protege - 33,889 (2,304)

Breaking - 12,196 (891 TC)

 - Umma - 11,404 (739)

 - Mrs. Harris - 13,334 (935)

 - Wolf and the Lamb - 12,069 (938)

 - Spencer - 11,579 (840)

 

T-1 Week*

Honk for Jesus - 11,931 (1,249 TC)

No Way Home - 15,478 (1,821 TC)

Jaws - 6,606 (847 TC)

Gigi & Nate - 6,521 (644 TC)

 

*As mentioned previously, Saturday 9/3 shows are not populated for the most part.  

Movie TC Shows Change Standard Last PSA PLF IMAX 3D
No Way Home 3,195 42,326   36,435   5,891 0 0
The Invitation 2,663 32,845 -10.99% 32,264 157.80 581 0 0
Beast 2,743 30,697 -21.92% 30,542 124.11 155 0 0
Bullet Train 2,597 28,955 -5.30% 28,673 183.41 282 78 0
Top Gun 2 2,637 28,486 7.82% 26,956 178.74 1,530 824 0
Honk For Jesus 1,830 26,909   26,848   61 0 0
Dragon Ball Super 2,351 25,881 -35.68% 25,320 115.88 561 132 0
Super-Pets 2,677 25,787 -7.36% 25,726 148.65 61 0 0
Three Thousand Years 2,214 21,755 -22.34% 21,735 89.76 20 0 0
Minions 2 2,073 18,507 -11.13% 18,382 130.16 125 2 90
Crawdads 1,842 17,280 -9.29% 17,244 120.76 36 0 0
Thor4 1,821 17,002 -22.31% 16,934 120.85 68 0 21
Gigi & Nate 1,160 16,776   16,753   23 0 0
Jaws 1,165 14,653   0   14,653 3,642 10,217
Nope 1,322 9,954 -35.62% 9,935 142.03 19 0 0
Breaking 882 7,516 -31.64% 7,505 80.84 11 0 0
Elvis 1,112 7,072 -33.81% 7,011 138.30 61 36 0
Orphan: First Kill 509 5,253 -19.72% 5,250 140.35 3 0 0
Bodies Bodies Bodies 599 3,591 -69.08% 3,576 92.06 15 0 0
Jurassic World 3 552 2,952 -59.56% 2,944 100.05 8 0 2

 

US Showtime Sample for 9/2/22 Weekend

 

OW shows comps

No Way Home - 42,326 (3,195 TC)

Honk for Jesus - 26,909 (1,830 TC)

 - Mack & Rita - 24,728 (1,686)

 - Father Stu - 27,690 (2,358)

 - Redeeming Love - 25,146 (1,836)

 - King's Daughter - 26,174 (1,987)

Gigi & Nate - 16,776 (1,160 TC)

 - Mr. Malcolm's List - 17,592 (1,263)

Jaws - 14,653 (1,165 TC) (All PLF)

 

T-1 Week

Barbarian (EA) - 113 (113 TC)

Barbarian - 21,805 (1,532 TC)

 - Last Night in Soho - 20,306 (1,787)

 - The Invitation - 21,624 (1,619)

 - The Northman - 22,383 (1,935)

Medieval - 9,948 (812 TC)

 - The Outfit - 9,823 (821)

 - King's Daughter - 10,270 (815)

Brahmastra Part 1 - 7,708 (516 TC)

 - Laal Singh Chaddha - 4,309 (338)

 - RRR - 17,065 (1,071)

Lifemark - 6,046 (1,457 TC)

 - Gigi & Nate - 6,521 (644)

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8 minutes ago, filmlover said:
9/9/2022 Barbarian $7,000,000 – $12,000,000 -12% $17,000,000 – $32,000,000 -12% 20th Century Studios
9/9/2022 Brahmastra Part 1: Shiva         Disney / Fox Star
9/16/2022 God’s Country         IFC Films
9/16/2022 Running the Bases         UP2U Films
9/16/2022 See How They Run         Searchlight Pictures
9/16/2022 The Silent Twins         Focus Features
9/16/2022 The Woman King $16,000,000 – $21,000,000   $42,000,000 – $67,000,000   Sony / TriStar Pictures
9/23/2022 Avatar (2022 Re-Release) $10,000,000 – $20,000,000   $20,000,000 – $50,000,000   Disney / 20th Century Studios
9/23/2022 Don’t Worry Darling $11,500,000 – $16,500,000 +4% $35,000,000 – $55,000,000 +4% Warner Bros. Pictures
9/30/2022 Bros $10,000,000 – $15,000,000   $35,000,000 – $60,000,000   Universal Pictures
9/30/2022 Smile $15,000,000 – $20,000,000   $35,000,000 – $65,000,000   Paramount Pictures

 

Long Range Box Office Forecast: Bros and Smile - Boxoffice (boxofficepro.com)

So it doesn't get lost on the previous page.

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On 8/31/2022 at 11:01 AM, Eric the Shark said:

Quorum Updates

Honk for Jesus. Save Your Soul T-2: 27.32% Awareness, 4.7 Interest

The Woman King: T-16: 28.62% Awareness, 5.07 Interest

Don't Worry Darling T-23: 24.36% Awareness, 5.02 Interest

Devotion T-84: 18.56% Awareness, 5.13 Interest

Babylon T-128: 14.06% Awareness, 5.04 Interest

Shazam! Fury of the Gods T-198: 38.35% Awareness, 5.46 Interest

Mario T-219: 29.71% Awareness, 5.75 Interest

The Little Mermaid T-268: 48.74% Awareness, 5.8 Interest

 

Lyle Lyle Crocodile T-37: 18.1% Awareness, 4.58 Interest

Comps: Spirit Untamed w/ 29.63% Awareness & 4.98 Interest, Peter Rabbit 2 w/ 31.34% & 4.89, Ron's Gone Wrong w/ 17.85% & 4.76, The Bad Guys 27.52% & 5.27, Bob's Burgers 35.87% Awareness & 4.84

 

T-30 General Awareness: 30% chance of double digit opening, 12.5% of 20M+

General Interest: 25% chance of double digits, 5% chance of 20M+

Animation/Family Awareness: Less than 30%, a 33% chance of double digit opening

Animation/Family Interest: Less than 5.0, 50% chance of double digit opening

Quorum Updates

Honk for Jesus. Save Your Soul Final: 29.67% Awareness, 4.74 Interest

Smile T-29: 28.29% Awareness, 5.43 Interest

The Menu T-78: 15.13% Awareness, 5.04 Interest

Spoiler Alert: The Hero Dies T-106: 9.82% Awareness, 4.29 Interest

Puss in Boots: The Last Wish T-111: 48.96% Awareness, 5.63 Interest

The Little Mermaid T-274: 48.05% Awareness, 6.2 Interest

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts T-281: 32.38% Awareness, 5.41 Interest

 

Barbarian T-8: 19.82% Awareness, 5.14 Interest

Comps (all Final): Escape Room 2 w/ 33.64% Awareness & 5.16 Interest, The Night House w/ 18.09% & 5.17, Antlers w/ 21.71% & 4.81, X w/ 23.58% & 4.94, The Invitation w/ 30.85% & 5.37

 

Final General Awareness: 0% chance of double digit opening

General Interest: 67% chance of double digits, 51% chance over 20M

Horror Awareness: 0% chance of double digits

Horror Interest: 55% chance of double digits, 44% chance over 20M

(Note Awareness and Interest will change the closer we are to release. This is merely for fun comparison's sake and to see how much the film needs to gain to see potentially greater rewards)

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The $3 Saturday is REALLY boosting ticket sales, far more than even I would have predicted. Enough that I do think there will be a significant Saturday bump across the board this weekend, even if you take into account the cheaper tickets. 

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Of all the films in release, if my area is any indication, Crawdads, Super Pets and Minions may receive the biggest Friday to Saturday boost due to the $3 tickets. An increase of over 100% on Saturday for all three seems possible and probably much greater than 100%. TGM is doing well but nothing like those three. The two new releases (Gigi and Honk) are DOA.

 

ETA: TGM is definitely headed for a good Saturday. Here is the 1:30 pm true IMAX showing at Lincoln Square in NYC for $3 a seat. 
 

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2 hours ago, DAJK said:

The $3 Saturday is REALLY boosting ticket sales, far more than even I would have predicted. Enough that I do think there will be a significant Saturday bump across the board this weekend, even if you take into account the cheaper tickets. 

Absolutely. Super Pets had 8 tix sold for today at the biggest Cinemark in the Salt Lake Valley as of 8:30 this morning, but is over 500 in presales for tomorrow. Minions and Thor had a combined total of 2, but together are over 400 for tomorrow. I'm pretty confident that after this weekend National Cinema Day is going to be a regular thing. Great for families and great for the theaters!

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3 minutes ago, A Star is Delayed said:

Absolutely. Super Pets had 8 tix sold for today at the biggest Cinemark in the Salt Lake Valley as of 8:30 this morning, but is over 500 in presales for tomorrow. Minions and Thor had a combined total of 2, but together are over 400 for tomorrow. I'm pretty confident that after this weekend National Cinema Day is going to be a regular thing. Great for families and great for the theaters!

I’m hearing from people who still work at theatres that payroll budgets haven’t increased for tomorrow, so a lot of locations are being staffed as if it’s a regular Saturday on Labor Day weekend.

 

Incompetent if you ask me.

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2 minutes ago, DAJK said:

I’m hearing from people who still work at theatres that payroll budgets haven’t increased for tomorrow, so a lot of locations are being staffed as if it’s a regular Saturday on Labor Day weekend.

 

Incompetent if you ask me.

Good Lord, that's a recipe for disaster. I look at the seating charts for tomorrow and this reminds me more of Christmas than Labor Day!

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19 minutes ago, DAJK said:

I’m hearing from people who still work at theatres that payroll budgets haven’t increased for tomorrow, so a lot of locations are being staffed as if it’s a regular Saturday on Labor Day weekend.

 

Incompetent if you ask me.

I have heard the same, unfortunately - not sure if they are underestimating sales, or just don’t want to burn the labor cost. Either way, it’s poor management 

 

I posed this question in last weekend thread (I think), but I believe a $20M+ Saturday is possible, which at $3/ticket would be one of - if not the - highest admit days post pandemic (7-8M range)

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1 minute ago, M37 said:

I have heard the same, unfortunately - not sure if they are underestimating sales, or just don’t want to burn the labor cost. Either way, it’s poor management 

 

I posed this question in last weekend thread (I think), but I believe a $20M+ Saturday is possible, which at $3/ticket would be one of - if not the - highest admit days post pandemic (7-8M range)

I am seeing NWH doing $1.1-1.3M. Seems hard to think $20M from that.

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A lot of movies in my area are seeing a 9:00-9:30 am showing being added for Saturday, pushing them to five shows per screen for the day instead of the usual four showings per screen. Ticket prices may be anywhere from 1/4th-1/7th normal prices but I am seeing ticket volumes definitely exceeding 4x-7x to compensate.

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38 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

I am seeing NWH doing $1.1-1.3M. Seems hard to think $20M from that.

My official estimate (at least for Derby purposes) is more in the $15-$18M (5-6M admit) range, but it’s really an unknown, so at least wanted to throw out that admit math/marker in advance

 

With that said, am expecting essentially a super-sized Discount Tuesday effect, where family and senior/adult movies (Pets, Minions, Thor, TGM, Crawdads, etc) are the biggest beneficiaries. In that respect NWH may not necessarily be representative of the how rest of the market performs, given the smaller Tuesday bumps it had back in Jan/Feb

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Barbarian (Tracking Day 1) 

 

AMC DINE-IN Disney Springs 24 

 

Thursday- 59/672 (3 Showings) 

 

 

Spoiler

7:00 PM (Dolby Cinema): 39 Tickets sold, 13.88% of seats (281) are sold  

10:00 PM (Dolby Cinema): 4 Tickets sold, 1.42% of seats (281) are sold 

8:00 PM (Laser at AMC): 16 Tickets sold, 14.55% of seats (110) are sold 

 

 

Friday- 34/1564 (8 Showings) 

 

 

Spoiler

1:00 PM (Dolby Cinema): 5 Tickets sold, 1.78% of seats (281) are sold 

4:00 PM (Dolby Cinema): 4 Tickets sold, 1.42% of seats (281) are sold 

7:00 PM (Dolby Cinema): 15 Tickets sold, 5.34% of seats (281) are sold 

10:00 PM (Dolby Cinema): 2 Tickets sold, 0.71% of seats (281) are sold 

12:00 PM (Laser at AMC): 4 Tickets sold, 3.64% of seats (110) are sold 

3:00 PM (Laser at AMC): 2 Tickets sold, 1.82% of seats (110) are sold 

6:00 PM (Laser at AMC): 0 Tickets sold, 0% of seats (110) are sold 

9:00 PM (Laser at AMC): 2 Tickets sold, 1.82% of seats (110) are sold 

 

 

Total: 93 Tickets sold, 4.16% of seats (2236) are sold 

Comps 

Nope (Tracking Day 1): 944 Tickets sold, 37.50% of seats (2517) were sold (x0.099) 

Bullet Train (Tracking Day 1): 801 Tickets sold, 32.46% of seats (2468) were sold (x0.116) 

Fall (Tracking Day 1): 30 Tickets sold, 5.57% of seats (539) were sold (x3.100) 

 

Island Cinemas (St.Simon) 

No Showings Yet 

 

Valdosta Cinemas 

No Showings Yet 

 

SUM Total: 

93 Tickets sold, 4.16% of seats (2236) are sold 

Comps 

Nope (Tracking Day 1): 945 Tickets sold, 14.57% of seats (6085) were sold (x0.098) 

Bullet Train (Tracking Day 1): 821 Tickets sold, 3.97% of seats (7073) were sold (x0.113) 

Fall (Tracking Day 1): 30 Tickets sold, 5.57% of seats (539) were sold (x3.100) 

 

 

 

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Lifemark (Tracking Day 1) 

 

AMC DINE-IN Disney Springs 24 

 

Thursday- No Showings 

 

Friday- 14/158 (1 Showing) 

 

Spoiler

7:00 PM (Laser at AMC): 14 Tickets sold, 8.86% of seats (158) are sold 

 

 

Total: 14 Tickets sold, 8.86% of seats (158) are sold 

Comps 

DC League of Super-Pets (Tracking Day 1): 69 Tickets sold, 1.85% of seats (3731) were sold (x0.203) 

Vengeance (Tracking Day 1): 47 Tickets sold, 8.80% of seats (534) were sold (x0.298) 

Easter Sunday (Tracking Day 1): 14 Tickets sold, 2.08% of seats (674) were sold (x1.000) 

Gigi and Nate (Tracking Day 1): 10 Tickets sold, 1.61% of seats (623) were sold (x1.400) 

 

Island Cinemas (St.Simon) 

No Showings Yet 

 

Valdosta Cinemas  

No Showings Yet 

 

SUM Total: 

14 Tickets sold, 8.86% of seats (158) are sold 

Comps 

DC League of Super-Pets (Tracking Day 1): 69 Tickets sold, 1.19% of seats (5805) were sold (x0.203) 

Vengeance (Tracking Day 1): 47 Tickets sold, 8.80% of seats (534) were sold (x0.298) 

Easter Sunday (Tracking Day 1): 14 Tickets sold, 0.56% of seats (2498) were sold (x1.000) 

Gigi and Nate (Tracking Day 1): 10 Tickets sold, 1.61% of seats (623) were sold (x1.400) 

 

 

 

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23 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Harkins THU

 

Spider-man: No Way Home - 1030/22281 (89 showings) $11,526

Around $550-600K previews.

 

$3M weekend may be.

 

Edit: FRI PS a bit better than I thought. $3.5M 3-days may be.

Friday - 2107/44161 (159 showings) $23,634

$1.1-1.2M FRI. Better than I expected. 

 

SAT sales also looking solid. Good increase today. Weekend may be $4-4.5M.

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11 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Friday - 2107/44161 (159 showings) $23,634

$1.1-1.2M FRI. Better than I expected. 

 

SAT sales also looking solid. Good increase today. Weekend may be $4-4.5M.

still bad/sad, when Avatar special edition did 4 million in 800 theaters it was out of the top 10 domestic ow

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