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PSA:   As a heads up to everyone, we'll be starting a new thread here very soon. For those who are newer to the forum, we typically have to split threads once they reach 1,000+ pages and are still highly active. In the past, such topics have created database slowdown issues that affect the entire forum.   Rest assured, this thread will be archived when it is locked and a link to the new one will be posted to help you find it easily (it will also be pinned to the top of the box o
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Posted by XXRDJisDoctorDoom,

Yea we're gonna drop all this non tracking stuff. That expressly means you, @excel1. Next post from you that isn't tracking related is a thread ban.    Anyone else continues, it's points. 

We're all tired of the non-tracking related thread derailments. This is your fair warning.

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28 minutes ago, M37 said:

Just a smidge below the expected range, though not unexpected. Between holiday and impending Tuesday/T-mobile deal, pace may be a little difficult to nail down until right at the end, but all indications are that Spider-Verse will finish ahead of GOTG3/AMWQ final sales total at Alpha - just a question of by how much, which would suggest an $18M+ preview (with a standard ~$57/tix PSM)

 

With that said, some of the individual markets - like Sacto and Denver - while still pacing very well, suggest a lower preview value ... and we just got burned a bit by Little Mermaid overindexing at bigger chains and markets, so don't want to gloss over those. It does appear as though we're heading towards an atypical market distribution for this release, but unclear whether it basically balances out, or like LM means there is weakness in lower and mid-tier regions that drags the total down a bit, or even overindexes enough in some areas (presumably Sun Belt) and actually goes higher

 

Comps I'm mostly looking at: Black Adam and Fast X, which are both in similar range for pace, but also are somewhat representative of the high and low end of how the market distribution could go [would highly recommend adding those to comp list if not already including]

 

After posting my update for my local theatre, I started checking theatres in a broader radius for Across the Spiderverse, and you really do see a lot of differences. The bigger city centres are doing worse than suburbs, but that rule doesn't quite hold true perfectly.

 

Based on what I've been seeing at my theatre, I've been optimistic, but, I think this is a film that has a fair bit of variability involved. 

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51 minutes ago, Wesley said:

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, ec doesn't have any additional presales info, he just gets it all from here.  I don't recall him adding anything to the thread when he was posting here

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2 minutes ago, MattW said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, ec doesn't have any additional presales info, he just gets it all from here.  I don't recall him adding anything to the thread when he was posting here


hmm I don't think this is accurate, from what I remember he had his sources as well.
(and I've just realised he's not posting here anymore 😳)

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11 minutes ago, Ohana said:


hmm I don't think this is accurate, from what I remember he had his sources as well.
(and I've just realised he's not posting here anymore 😳)

He's not posting here because he's permanently banned for harassing the mods. 

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28 minutes ago, John Marston said:

So Flash is selling way less than The Batman even. The hope is simply that it somehow behaves like movies like Jurassic World or Avatar?

Definitely not avatar since it started crashing on its final week, something flash definitely can't afford to do on this level of sales 😅

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On 5/26/2023 at 11:58 AM, keysersoze123 said:

Transformers MTC1

Wednesday - 13199/35651 264805.33 178 shows +1730

Previews - 22059/621138 419907.23 3319 shows +2018

Friday - 15075/845792 279145.67 4299 shows +1509

 

Growth is over 3 days of presales. I dont think we will see any major spike until close to release. 

Transformers MTC1

Wednesday - 14589/35651 291826.93 179 shows +1390

Previews - 24431/621999 464285.17 3323 shows +2372

Friday - 17400/847605 322830.76 4309 shows +2325

 

Another 3+ days of presales. Just chugging along. 

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10 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Transformadores MTC1

Quarta - 14589/35651 291826.93 179 programas +1390

Prévias - 24431/621999 464285.17 3323 programas +2372

Sexta - 17400/847605 322830.76 4309 shows +2325

 

Mais 3+ dias de pré-vendas. Apenas seguindo em frente. 

Wednesday will probably sell 50%

Can we look at +45m?

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On 5/27/2023 at 7:53 PM, ZackM said:

 

The Flash
Alpha Chain
Premiere Night Seat Report: T-20 days
           
  Last Day 2 Days Ago 3 Days Ago 4 Days Ago  
Showings Added 2 3 17 2,657  
Seats Added 582 573 3,602 513,926  
Seats Sold 1,864 2,568 5,157 33,870  
           
5/26/2023 Theaters Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Pct. Sold
Total 425 2,679 43,459 518,683 8.38%
           
% of Seats Sold 100% 90%+ 80%+ 70%+ 60%+
# of Showings 0 0 2 17 43
           
ATP Gross        
$19.23 $835,717        

 

The Flash Fan First Screenings in IMAX
Alpha Chain
Premiere Night Seat Report: T-15 days
           
5/28/2023 Theaters Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Pct. Sold
Total 13 13 3,330 4,478 74.36%
           
ATP Gross        
$23.47 $78,155        

 

 

 

The Flash
Alpha Chain
Premiere Night Seat Report: T-18 days
           
  Last Day 2 Days Ago 3 Days Ago 4 Days Ago 5 Days Ago
Showings Added 3 0 2 3 17
Seats Added 650 0 582 573 3,602
Seats Sold 1,104 1,378 1,864 2,568 5,157
           
5/28/2023 Theaters Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Pct. Sold
Total 425 2,682 45,941 519,333 8.85%
           
% of Seats Sold 100% 90%+ 80%+ 70%+ 60%+
# of Showings 0 0 2 20 43
           
ATP Gross        
$19.18 $881,148      

 

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Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny
Alpha Chain
Premiere Night Seat Report: T-34 days
           
  Last Day 2 Days Ago 3 Days Ago 4 Days Ago 5 Days Ago
Showings Added 0 0 2 17 2,435
Seats Added 0 0 128 2,684 498,507
Seats Sold 541 471 490 1,441 17,357
           
5/26/2023 Theaters Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Pct. Sold
Total 417 2,454 20,300 501,319 4.05%
           
% of Seats Sold 100% 90%+ 80%+ 70%+ 60%+
# of Showings 1 1 2 5 7
           
ATP Gross        
$18.89 $383,467        

 

Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny
Alpha Chain
Premiere Night Seat Report: T-32 days
           
  Last Day 2 Days Ago 3 Days Ago 4 Days Ago 5 Days Ago
Showings Added 0 0 0 0 2
Seats Added 0 0 0 0 128
Seats Sold 389 393 541 471 490
           
5/28/2023 Theaters Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Pct. Sold
Total 417 2,454 21,082 501,319 4.21%
           
% of Seats Sold 100% 90%+ 80%+ 70%+ 60%+
# of Showings 1 1 2 4 7
           
ATP Gross        
$18.88 $398,028        
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23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Across the Spider-Verse Denver Previews

AMC Westminster 24

Total 591 3200 19.85%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 452 1875 24.11%

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
2799 210 22850 12.34% 13 123

 

0.756 Guardians 3 T-4 13.22M
0.419 Thor L&T T-4 12.15M
0.555 Batman T-4 11.98M
1.35 Eternals T-4 12.86M

Across the Spider-Verse Denver Previews

AMC Westminster 24

Total 662 3200 20.69%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 476 1875 25.39%

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
3130 331 22847 13.70% 13 123

 

0.770 Guardians 3 T-3 13.48M
0.639 Ant-Man 3 T-3 11.18M
0.434 Thor L&T T-3 12.59M
0.572 Batman T-3 12.36M
1.390 Eternals T-3 13.20M
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23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Across the Spider-Verse Alamo Drafthouse

T-4 Thursday 163 Showings 8245 +619 24323 ATP: 15.82
0.654 Guardians 3 T-4 11.45M
0.487 Thor L&T T-4 14.13M
0.645 Batman Thurs only T-4 11.34M
1.353 Eternals  T-4 12.85M

 

T-5 Friday 186 Showings 7630 +660 29748 ATP: 15.75
0.648 Guardians 3 T-5 19.83M
0.529 Thor L&T T-5 21.47M
0.564 Batman T-5 19.80M
1.280 Eternals  T-5 27.32M

 

T-6 Saturday 177 Showings 6828 +650 28676
0.514 Guardians 3 T-6 19.97M
0.497 Thor L&T T-6 20.94M
0.479 Batman T-6 20.74M
1.153 Eternals  T-6 27.81M

 

T-7 Sunday 159 Showings 4354 +488 25813
0.578 Guardians 3 T-7 18.18M
0.551 Thor L&T T-7 17.91M
0.629 Batman T-7 21.48M
1.263 Eternals T-7 20.63M

Across the Spider-Verse Alamo Drafthouse

T-3 Thursday 172 Showings 8991 +746 25215 ATP: 15.74
0.656 Guardians 3 T-3 11.48M
0.585 Ant-Man 3 T-3 10.24M
0.504 Thor L&T T-3 14.62M
0.644 Batman Thurs only T-3 11.33M
1.379 Eternals  T-3 13.10M

 

T-4 Friday 202 Showings 8432 +802 31342 ATP: 15.70
0.629 Guardians 3 T-4 19.25M
0.566 Ant-Man 3 T-4 16.37M
0.538 Thor L&T T-4 21.80M
0.553 Batman T-4 19.40M
1.308 Eternals  T-4 27.91M

 

T-5 Saturday 195 Showings 7606 +778 30567
0.509 Guardians 3 T-5 19.79M
0.507 Ant-Man 3 T-5 17.19M
0.521 Thor L&T T-5 21.95M
0.469 Batman T-5 20.27M
1.183 Eternals  T-5 28.54M

 

T-6 Sunday 179 Showings 5049 +695 27792
0.575 Guardians 3 T-6 18.07M
0.650 Ant-Man 3 T-6 16.76M
0.571 Thor L&T T-6 18.55M
0.606 Batman T-6 20.70M
1.286 Eternals T-6 21.00M
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Across the Spider-Verse Emagine Entertainment

T-3 Thursday 168 Showings 3170 +409 25818
1.338 Little Mermaid T-3 13.78M

 

T-4 Friday 226 Showings 3461 +456 35688
0.703 Little Mermaid T-4 19.47M

 

T-5 Saturday 235 Showings 1949 +283 37209
0.502 Little Mermaid T-5 15.07M

 

T-6 Sunday 233 Showings 774 +9 35924
0.477 Little Mermaid T-6 13.11M

 

Started tracking this Midwest chain a few weeks ago after Megaplex died. Won't have good comps for Spider-Verse. Not sure what happened Sunday... didn't notice any errors but something probably got messed up

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Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Denver Previews

AMC Westminster 24

Total 175 3335 5.25%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 112 1705 6.57%

 

Wednesday: 341

Thursday:

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
608 N/A 18395 3.31% 13 106

 

1.528 Black Adam T-10 11.61M
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Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Alamo Drafthouse

T-10 Thursday 106 Showings 617   15847 ATP: 14.59
0.423 Black Adam T-10 3.22M

 

T-11 Friday 124 Showings 500   19068 ATP: 14.13
0.409 Black Adam T-11 7.81M

 

T-12 Saturday 123 Showings 410   19008 ATP: 14.16
0.324 Black Adam T-12 7.68M

 

T-13 Sunday 109 Showings 180   17363 ATP: 13.07
0.409 Black Adam T-13 6.79M
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Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Emagine Entertainment

T-9 Wednesday 3 Showings 88   445
T-10 Thursday 151 Showings 389   22862

 

T-11 Friday 236 Showings 380   35033

 

T-12 Saturday 238 Showings 365   35561

 

T-13 Sunday 237 Showings 127   35228
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The Flash Denver Previews

AMC Westminster 24

Total 210 1890 7.16%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 109 1179 9.25%

 

Monday: 198(+2)

Thursday:

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
704 20 19584 3.10% 13 108

 

2.592 Black Adam T-18 19.70M
0.853 Eternals T-18 8.11M

The Flash Denver Previews

AMC Westminster 24

Total 220 2188 10.05%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 112 1179 9.50%

 

Monday: 198

Thursday:

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
733 29 20180 3.63% 13 106

 

0.674 Across the Spider-Verse T-17
2.293 Black Adam T-17 17.43M
0.307 Batman T-17 6.63M
0.824 Eternals T-17 7.83M
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