Weekdays thread Mar 20-Mar23

[TwoMisfits]

18 minutes ago, Ledmonkey96 said:

well ya but by the time Mario comes out Shazam 2 will only be a week away from hitting HBO

 

Nah, they'll hold it out for all of the normal Easter break vacation weeks...while it may be $25 PVOD in 30 days, it won't be "free" for anyone probably until GOTG 3's OW, b/c that's truly when Shazam wouldn't make another dime theatrically anyway...

[keysersoze123]

Zaslav has no interest in doing anything special for HBO Max. So there is no way he will release Shazam early. he is in fact removing shows to be sold elsewhere or avoid paying syndication to cast/crew. If this were AT&T it would be a hybrid release :-)

Edited March 21, 2023 by keysersoze123

[Eric Prime]

16 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Zaslav has no interest in doing anything special for HBO Max. So there is no way he will release Shazam early. he is in fact removing shoes to be sold elsewhere or avoid paying syndication to cast/crew. If this were AT&T it would be a hybrid release 🙂

HBO's a shoe store? Since when?!

[Mulder]

39 minutes ago, Ledmonkey96 said:

well ya but by the time Mario comes out Shazam 2 will only be a week away from hitting HBO

It's hitting PVOD on April 18th, so it won't be out on HBO Max until like at least a month since then.

[keysersoze123]

10 minutes ago, Eric Batson said:

HBO's a shoe store? Since when?!

They are buying a shoe company as well. Damn my typo 

[TwoMisfits]

Saw Shazam tonight - it was a ton of fun and totally worth my money.  Best super I've seen since The Batman last year.  I'll put the review in the movie thread tomorrow, but I did want to mention the biggest reaction in my theater to trailers.

 

Whoever put Ruby Gillman before Little Mermaid is a GENIUS.  The whole theater was laughing and talking about that movie, especially since it preceded Little Mermaid (which then got a laugh when it appeared right after, but maybe not for the right reason).

 

And the Barbie trailer also got a really positive reaction - very good bashing the dolls trailer.  No idea if this will actually be good, but they've got the selling part right.

[dxmatrixdt]

so if Dungeons and Dragons surprises with a 30M OW, it would be the bigger money loser of the year over Shazam?

[kayumanggi]

 

[GOGODanca]

36 minutes ago, dxmatrixdt said:

so if Dungeons and Dragons surprises with a 30M OW, it would be the bigger money loser of the year over Shazam?

Killers of the flower moon apparently cost $200m and i don't think even Leo can save that kind of movie in the current moviegoing climate

[harry713]

21 hours ago, Ronin46 said:

 

Its tracking similar to the last Scream which had 41% drop 3rd weekend and 34% drop 4th weekend. 

 

 

This was more of a worst case scenario to see if there’s any chance of it missing the 103m gross of the original, which looks nearly impossible. I think realistically the end tally will be 110-112m dom. 

Edited March 22, 2023 by harry713

[kayumanggi]

 

[CaptNathanBrittles]

1 hour ago, dxmatrixdt said:

so if Dungeons and Dragons surprises with a 30M OW, it would be the bigger money loser of the year over Shazam?

 

I would expect D&D to have much stronger legs (if it's as good as the reviews claim) and a much stronger international gross.

[wildphantom]

13 hours ago, TwoMisfits said:

Saw Shazam tonight - it was a ton of fun and totally worth my money.  Best super I've seen since The Batman last year.  I'll put the review in the movie thread tomorrow, but I did want to mention the biggest reaction in my theater to trailers.

 

Whoever put Ruby Gillman before Little Mermaid is a GENIUS.  The whole theater was laughing and talking about that movie, especially since it preceded Little Mermaid (which then got a laugh when it appeared right after, but maybe not for the right reason).

 

And the Barbie trailer also got a really positive reaction - very good bashing the dolls trailer.  No idea if this will actually be good, but they've got the selling part right.

Off to see Shazam as we speak. Glad you enjoyed it. 

[titanic2187]

Just realised all those Oscar contender like Women Talking, Triangle of Sadness, Fabelmans, Tar and Banshees are completely out of theater immediately the week after the ceremony is over.....As if the Oscar is the sole reason why they were still playing in the theater before this....

[BoxOfficeFangrl]

57 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

Just realised all those Oscar contender like Women Talking, Triangle of Sadness, Fabelmans, Tar and Banshees are completely out of theater immediately the week after the ceremony is over.....As if the Oscar is the sole reason why they were still playing in the theater before this....

It was? But it was like that before the pandemic, especially for the nominees without much momentum after the ceremony. The 90th Oscars were on March 4, and several Best Picture nominees that year stopped reporting numbers by the end of that month. It's all relative: weak Oscar movie box office by the standards of 5 years ago is stronger than what Tár, Banshees, Women Talking, etc. brought in recently, so stuff like Phantom Thread and Call Me By Your Name still lingered in theaters a bit longer after the ceremony vs now.

 

I imagine EEAAO and The Whale would be the only winners this year to get much of a post-ceremony box office bump. Everything else would likely be playing to even emptier auditoriums than before.

Edited March 22, 2023 by BoxOfficeFangrl

[titanic2187]

7 minutes ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

It was? But it was like that before the pandemic, especially for the nominees without much momentum after the ceremony. The 90th Oscars were on March 4, and several Best Picture nominees that year stopped reporting numbers by the end of that month. It's all relative: weak Oscar movie box office by the standards of 5 years ago is still stronger than what Tár, Banshees, Women Talking, etc. brought in recently, so stuff like Phantom Thread and Call Me By Your Name still lingered around a bit longer after the ceremony vs now.

 

I imagine EEAAO and The Whale would be the only winners this year to get much of a post-ceremony box office bump.

However, you can see them still linger around in theater for few more weeks before ended their run. But what happened this year is 5 best picture immediately ended their run in the subsequent week (or stop reporting). Could be a new norm in post-pandemic era but I am still surprised by how quickly the cinema dropped them. Probably due to the fact that their PTA is unbearably low.  

[DAJK]

Am re-watching the first Shazam before seeing this new one tomorrow (haven't watched it since theaters) and it's... pretty good? I'm only about a half-hour in, and while it does feel quaint at times, it feels very focused on its characters so far. And I love when these big-budget blockbusters are able to tell a really good character-driven story.

 

Well-done Shazam 1.

[GOGODanca]

-	(2)	Scream VI	Paramount Pi…	$1,786,982	+25%	-59%	3,676	$486	$79,076,211	12
-	(4)	65	Sony Pictures	$710,000	+42%	-50%	3,405	$209	$23,689,674	12
-	(8)	Champions	Focus Features	$525,675	+91%	-37%	3,039	$173	$11,468,455	12
-	(5)	Cocaine Bear	Universal	$466,470	+28%	-46%	2,687	$174	$59,407,375	26
-	(10)	Puss in Boots: The Last Wish	Universal	$162,090	+19%	-60%	1,735	$93	$182,931,405	91

[Krissykins]

Scream VI passing $80m today. 
 

Will pass Scream 5 on Friday, day 15 of release, if not sooner. Excellent. 

[BoxOfficeFangrl]

1 hour ago, titanic2187 said:

However, you can see them still linger around in theater for few more weeks before ended their run. But what happened this year is 5 best picture immediately ended their run in the subsequent week (or stop reporting). Could be a new norm in post-pandemic era but I am still surprised by how quickly the cinema dropped them. Probably due to the fact that their PTA is unbearably low.  

The per theater averages for the awards season fall release have plummeted post-pandemic. Compare how the Best Picture nominees did on Oscar weekend 2018

 

March 2-4, 2018:

 

11

(12)

The Shape of Water

Fox Searchlight

$1,479,352

+13%

832

+111

$1,778

$57,609,421

14

 

13	(11)	Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri	Fox Searchlight	$1,292,173	-6%	770	+79	$1,678	$52,180,601	17
14	(13)	The Post	20th Century…	$1,069,501	-14%	671	-124	$1,594	$80,527,737	11
15	(14)	Phantom Thread	Focus Features	$752,545	-24%	715	+64	$1,053	$20,286,709	10
16	(19)	Darkest Hour	Focus Features	$696,160	-7%	913	+118	$762	$55,550,377	15
17	(18)	Lady Bird	A24	$568,742	-31%	710	+109	$801	$48,321,868	18

 

And this was in Black Panther at in its third weekend at $66 million... There were also other movies not in Best Picture but boosted by other nominations. Clearly, cinematic universes and "prestige" movies used to coexist just fine.

 

 

To be fair to this year's contenders, most were available for legal home viewing well before the ceremony. Theaters were often playing the nominees maybe once or twice a day, possibly at reduced prices as well (Avatar 2 excluded).

 

Oscar weekend 2023, Best Picture nominees:

 

8

(6)

Avatar: The Way of Water

20th Century…

$2,656,192

-27%

1,675

-625

$1,586

$674,653,377

13

 

-

(-)

Everything Everywhere All At Once

A24

$347,224

+69%

584

-52

$595

$73,783,426

51

-

(-)

Women Talking

United Artists

$186,578

+16%

527

+300

$354

$5,380,338

12

 

-	(-)	The Fabelmans	Universal	$62,875	+25%	567	-24	$111	$17,340,235	18
-	(-)	TÁR	Focus Features	$52,590	+18%	185	-259	$284	$6,763,035	23
-	(-)	Triangle of Sadness	Neon	$37,710	+11%	514	+104	$73	$4,608,096	23
-	(-)	The Banshees of Inisherin	Searchlight …	$32,516	-25%	505	+235	$64	$10,571,354	21

 

 

Some of these per theater averages are just dire (especially compared to 5 years ago) and this was Oscar weekend. Except for EEAAO, attendance was only going to get worse for the other nominees after the Oscars. Theaters probably made more on private screenings or some random Fathom Events thing...

 

Edited March 22, 2023 by BoxOfficeFangrl