WGA/SAGAFTRA Strike Discussion Thread | SAG Ratifies Contract

[Jonwo]

9 minutes ago, MysteryMovieMogul said:

Welp, I genuinely think SAG needs to close that loophole because the fact they don't have anyone from the SAG approved Hunger Games movie, and instead have two actors from WB movies that cannot be mentioned (all while WB can purchase ad-space and do their own marketing), is embarrassing.

SAG have already got into bother over being too strict with their guidance so I think it won't be closed anytime soon.

 

 

[Mojoguy]

2 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

SAG have already got into bother over being too strict with their guidance so I think it won't be closed anytime soon.

 

 

Many actors ignored the SAG Halloween costume ban, and I don't see SAG ever punishing anyone over it because it was so stupid.

[MysteryMovieMogul]

13 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:

It's more that they don't have actors big enough on Songbirds to do SNL.

 

But I think would have been great to see Peter Dinkage doing SNL.

Jason Schwartzman, Viola Davis, Rachel Zegler, and, as you admitted, Peter Dinklage would all be perfect choices.  

[babz06]

These SNL bookings were likely locked in months ago. Viola hasn’t wanted to do anything despite getting interim agreements so that was likely a no go. Rachel Zegler isn’t a big star with a hit to her name. I dunno about Dinklage, maybe he just doesn’t want to do it either.

Edited November 6, 2023 by babz06

[Maggie]

 

[Derpity]

I think we're either going to get a quick end to the strike, i.e. an accepted deal tonight or else it's a very bad sign.

[Maggie]

17 minutes ago, Derpity said:

I think we're either going to get a quick end to the strike, i.e. an accepted deal tonight or else it's a very bad sign.

Sounds like a "NO" to me. Why take 12 hours to craft a response?

 

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SAG-AFTRA's negotiating committee spent nearly 12 hours on Sunday crafting its response to the AMPTP's "last, best and final" offer.

 

[Mojoguy]

20 minutes ago, Derpity said:

I think we're either going to get a quick end to the strike, i.e. an accepted deal tonight or else it's a very bad sign.

So basically the same crap that's been going on for weeks now.

 

Someone keeps saying it's over, then a few posts later someone says we don't know anything.

[Cmasterclay]

Plenty of us warned that it was never over, FWIW.

 

Also, we knew that they were going to counter for a couple of days now - the real question is if AMPTP rejects the counter and walks away or if they get past sticking points and accept it. Either way, yes I think we now will know fairly quickly if this is ending.

[keysersoze123]

8 minutes ago, Maggie said:

Sounds like a "NO" to me. Why take 12 hours to craft a response?

 

 

its not plain no. They have to go through page by page to craft that response. Lawyers will throw in tons of garbage in these offers. You have to take time for sure. 12 hrs is nothing. 

[Cmasterclay]

As someone who works in local government, the idea of lawyers getting something done in 12 hours, heck, even 115 days, would be enough to inspire me to convert religions.

[MovieMagic]

Yes, I think it’s obvious they were going to counter. (Also saw this tweet, though taking it with a grain of salt.) But I agree that we should likely know the outcome today, whether the AMPTP is willing to negotiate further or if they walk away.

 

https://x.com/jcraigstiles/status/1721626613002235973?s=46&t=wMBhEe54n401F6TKB_JL-g

[SpiderByte]

51 minutes ago, Maggie said:

Sounds like a "NO" to me. Why take 12 hours to craft a response?

 

 

It could be that they want to soften the blow that they're taking a weaker deal than some people necessarily may have wanted.

[Derpity]

47 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:

So basically the same crap that's been going on for weeks now.

 

Someone keeps saying it's over, then a few posts later someone says we don't know anything.

 

The WGA strike ended approximately 36 hours after the WGA received AMPTP's "best and final offer." It is actually a very good sign for an ending, bc it means that SAG can probably make a few small tweaks, send it back, and AMPTP accepts and everyone rejoices.

 

So if we exit a time period where the SAG does not respond quickly, and the AMPTP does not instantly accept whatever they send back, this is a REAL BAD sign and we could be in for a long slog. SAG right now has a choice of sending back a small counter and ending the strike, or a large counter and prolonging this. That is probably why there is so much internal debate.

[Mojoguy]

It'll be wild if strike ends the day before The Marvels opens. Almost like the entire universe was conspiring against it.

[SpiderByte]

I think there's a very real chance this could be a "look, this isn't a deal that gets everything we wanted but it's still a win for us". Could obviously also be the other way around but that's a lot of time to say no

[MovieMagic]

Another message from Natalia (member of the negotiating committee). Not sure what it means.

 

https://x.com/hereisnatalia/status/1721645509197373915?s=46&t=wMBhEe54n401F6TKB_JL-g

[TomThomas]

18 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:

It'll be wild if strike ends the day before The Marvels opens. Almost like the entire universe was conspiring against it.

Even universe is against fake movies.

[Maggie]

SAG-AFTRA intends to counter AMPTP's 'best and final' offer

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/sag-aftra-intends-counter-amptps-best-final-offer-rcna123883

 

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SAG-AFTRA and Hollywood's studios may be back to the negotiating table.

After 116 days on strike, the union representing Hollywood's 160,000 actors plans to counter several points in the deal put forth by the studios and streamers over the weekend, NBC has learned from four sources familiar with the discussions.

 

Edited November 6, 2023 by Maggie

[Youngstar]

10 minutes ago, MovieMagic said:

Another message from Natalia (member of the negotiating committee). Not sure what it means.

 

https://x.com/hereisnatalia/status/1721645509197373915?s=46&t=wMBhEe54n401F6TKB_JL-g

I feel like a message like this would not be neccessary if they would take a deal (with maybe a few minor tweaks). So I'm expecting this to drag on longer and will be pleasantly suprised if I'm wrong.