TOM CRUISE LOVES HIS POPCORN. MOVIES. POPCORN: THE WEEKEND THREAD | We are just waiting for Barbenheimer here

[cannastop]

1 minute ago, Krissykins said:

Astroturfing is such a clever phrase, I’ve never heard that before. Took me a second to realise lol. 

Yep. Fake grass roots

[redfirebird2008]

14 minutes ago, filmlover said:

The grosses of the Mission: Impossible movies range from $180M (the first from '96) to $220M (Fallout) with MI3 as the outlier for understandable reasons (6 year wait between movies, blah reception to MI2, actual Cruise Fatigue from his odd public behavior the previous year), so I guess if this hits $160M it won't be that far off the mark? I don't know, this franchise clearly has a ceiling if you ask me.

There’s definitely a ceiling. The only problem for this movie is the fact they spent around $400M on production & marketing. That type of cost should be reserved for movies that are locked to go over $900 million worldwide. 

[John Marston]

There is no point in spending money to shoot in real locations and use real stunts instead of using crappy CGI and substituting Atlanta for every city. It’s not like you will be rewarded for your effort 

[Maggie]

1 minute ago, cannastop said:

Yep. Fake grass roots

Btw what happened to Andrea Riseborough? Such a talented actress smeared so cruelly

[upriser7]

Just now, John Marston said:

There is no point in spending money to shoot in real locations and use real stunts instead of using crappy CGI and substituting Atlanta for every city. It’s not like you will be rewarded for your effort 

exactly...people didn't exactly take right conclusions from TGM success which had more to do with nostalgia factor and being sequel after a long wait to a pop culture phenomenon. Audience are not gonna come to theatres just because the movie was shot in real locations and real stunts...it's sad but that's the unfortunate truth

[Cooper Legion]

As for this week:

Movie	Shows	Change	Gross	PSA
Mission: Impossible 7	100,031		$49,000,000	$490
Insidious 6	43,287	-20.22%	$14,000,000	$323
Indiana Jones 5	40,724	-40.42%	$13,500,000	$331
Sound of Freedom	36,577	16.93%	$24,000,000	$656
Elemental	35,171	-3.90%	$8,800,000	$250
Joy Ride	26,152	-32.20%	$2,600,000	$99
Spider-Verse 2	25,604	-15.30%	$5,900,000	$230
No Hard Feelings	19,455	-30.47%	$3,250,000	$167
Transformers 6	16,997	-28.03%	$3,400,000	$200
The Little Mermaid	11,623	-35.27%	$2,300,000	$198
The Miracle Club	8,364			$0
Ruby Gillman	7,715	-75.87%	$950,000	$123
Asteroid City	6,283	-47.84%	$1,100,000	$175
Psycho-Pass	5,247		$300,000	$57
The Flash	4,335	-65.09%	$700,000	$161

SoF isn’t 2nd in PSA after all 

 

I expect we’ll see extreme volume hold (or even further expansion?) for SoF, MI falling to some 40k or so, Elemental by 30%ish, and extreme slash to the rest to make way for 200k+ new demand.

[titanic2187]

2 minutes ago, John Marston said:

There is no point in spending money to shoot in real locations and use real stunts instead of using crappy CGI and substituting Atlanta for every city. It’s not like you will be rewarded for your effort 

Feel so sad for Paramount this year. They have two movies, produced with the sheer amount of sincerity, DnD and now MI7, but somehow couldn't land a big impact to BO. And it is not like they didn't try to market them. They did wholeheartedly.  

[WorkingonaName]

I still haven't gotten over Babylon, movie of the decade. 

[Maggie]

Well, Barbeheimer better deliver on the promise. Expecting Barbie OVER 150M at this point

[ZattMurdock]

6 minutes ago, John Marston said:

There is no point in spending money to shoot in real locations and use real stunts instead of using crappy CGI and substituting Atlanta for every city. It’s not like you will be rewarded for your effort 

Yep. Hence why the genre will go to Netflix and they will spend the money on that. For a spy film to be successful make idk, S.H.I.E.L.D. or something, get Steve Rogers going director of that and make a spy thriller. That can blow up. You need the brand to back up this kind of projects. 

[ThomasNicole]

20 minutes ago, LegionGPT said:

Since I see some chatter about show holds next weekend wanted to take a look back at the discussion last wknd and how it turned out:

 

Not too shabby — SV2 and (especially) elemental were indeed protected by cuts elsewhere, even as SoF did indeed expand.

Expecting something similar next weekend tbh

 

I think even Indy have more chances of losing more shows 

[SpiderByte]

Not getting the doom and gloom, it's not Maverick but relative to it's budget this isn't a bad opening 

[M37]

51 minutes ago, Ledmonkey96 said:

Live action PG-13 isn't direct competition with a PG animated movie..... hell Spider-verse is barely direct competition with Elemental.

But a lot of moms who would normally take their kids to see Elemental instead having a girls night out to see Barbie is indeed going to dampen the box office potential 

[Cooper Legion]

1 minute ago, ThomasNicole said:

Expecting something similar next weekend tbh

 

I think even Indy have more chances of losing more shows 

 

5 minutes ago, LegionGPT said:

As for this week:

Movie	Shows	Change	Gross	PSA
Mission: Impossible 7	100,031		$49,000,000	$490
Insidious 6	43,287	-20.22%	$14,000,000	$323
Indiana Jones 5	40,724	-40.42%	$13,500,000	$331
Sound of Freedom	36,577	16.93%	$24,000,000	$656
Elemental	35,171	-3.90%	$8,800,000	$250
Joy Ride	26,152	-32.20%	$2,600,000	$99
Spider-Verse 2	25,604	-15.30%	$5,900,000	$230
No Hard Feelings	19,455	-30.47%	$3,250,000	$167
Transformers 6	16,997	-28.03%	$3,400,000	$200
The Little Mermaid	11,623	-35.27%	$2,300,000	$198
The Miracle Club	8,364			$0
Ruby Gillman	7,715	-75.87%	$950,000	$123
Asteroid City	6,283	-47.84%	$1,100,000	$175
Psycho-Pass	5,247		$300,000	$57
The Flash	4,335	-65.09%	$700,000	$161

SoF isn’t 2nd in PSA after all 

 

I expect we’ll see extreme volume hold (or even further expansion?) for SoF, MI falling to some 40k or so, Elemental by 30%ish, and extreme slash to the rest to make way for 200k+ new demand.

[Brainbug]

24 minutes ago, YM! said:

I think, we still aren’t realizing a portion of the moviegoing audience left theatrical and may not ever return apart from one or two mega events (this year, it is Mario and Barbie), a shift towards larger formats more than ever, and the audience are even become more pick and choose for once mainstay theatrical genres (I mean look at the superhero movies this year apart from Across and Guardians) which was sped up by the rise of streaming being a cheaper alternative, inflation and the pandemic. Think it’s possible for admissions to increase as the years go by but I’m not sure if this new normal will be the main thing.

 

Thats one thing i definetly subscribe to: A big portion of the moviegoing audiences abandoned cinemas during and after Covid and they will never come back. Streaming options, inflation, franchise fatigue, politics in movies, you could name hundreds of valid reasons (some much more valid than others probably), but all of them combined made and make sure that attendance levels will never be on pre-Covid levels again. Never.

 

That means its more than ever Do-or-Die at the box office and it also means the audiences that are coming are the pickiest audience in cinema history. They will not come if the movie doesnt convince them that it really is worth seeing - and that its an experience, where its worth to leave the sofa, not wait for the streaming release in 2 months and actually drive to the theater.

 

The old times are truly a thing of the past. We will never see a summer like in the 2000s again with hit after hit after hit. Even summer seasons that are closer to us like 2018 or 2015 with many big hits following each other, that will never happen again. Its a new reality that studios, actors, theater owners and ofc us box office followers will have to accept.

[WorkingonaName]

Barbieheimer gonna be the the biggest weekend since endgame. 

[M37]

6 minutes ago, LegionGPT said:

As for this week:

Movie	Shows	Change	Gross	PSA
Mission: Impossible 7	100,031		$49,000,000	$490
Insidious 6	43,287	-20.22%	$14,000,000	$323
Indiana Jones 5	40,724	-40.42%	$13,500,000	$331
Sound of Freedom	36,577	16.93%	$24,000,000	$656
Elemental	35,171	-3.90%	$8,800,000	$250
Joy Ride	26,152	-32.20%	$2,600,000	$99
Spider-Verse 2	25,604	-15.30%	$5,900,000	$230
No Hard Feelings	19,455	-30.47%	$3,250,000	$167
Transformers 6	16,997	-28.03%	$3,400,000	$200
The Little Mermaid	11,623	-35.27%	$2,300,000	$198
The Miracle Club	8,364			$0
Ruby Gillman	7,715	-75.87%	$950,000	$123
Asteroid City	6,283	-47.84%	$1,100,000	$175
Psycho-Pass	5,247		$300,000	$57
The Flash	4,335	-65.09%	$700,000	$161

SoF isn’t 2nd in PSA after all 

 

I expect we’ll see extreme volume hold (or even further expansion?) for SoF, MI falling to some 40k or so, Elemental by 30%ish, and extreme slash to the rest to make way for 200k+ new demand.

I see a lot of Elemental matinee / Insidious evening splits for next week. 

[ZattMurdock]

Here’s a freebie, Feige and D’Esposito (we know you read these boards):

 

Ralph McQuarrie’s Steve Rogers, Director of S.H.I.E.L.D.

 

Print all the money.

 

 

[ThomasNicole]

2 minutes ago, M37 said:

But a lot of moms who would normally take their kids to see Elemental instead having a girls night out to see Barbie is indeed going to dampen the box office potential 

It will but i think it will be quite like NWH opening with 260M and Encanto dropping 35% the same weekend (in a way worse run).

 

Even if Barbenheimmer ended up with 260M together (which seems extreme), i think we’ll just see a 25-30% drop for Elemental instead of 10% like this weekend, and then it’ll course correct the weekend after.

 

 

[M37]

4 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

 

Thats one thing i definetly subscribe to: A big portion of the moviegoing audiences abandoned cinemas during and after Covid and they will never come back. Streaming options, inflation, franchise fatigue, politics in movies, you could name hundreds of valid reasons (some much more valid than others probably), but all of them combined made and make sure that attendance levels will never be on pre-Covid levels again. Never.

 

That means its more than ever Do-or-Die at the box office and it also means the audiences that are coming are the pickiest audience in cinema history. They will not come if the movie doesnt convince them that it really is worth seeing - and that its an experience, where its worth to leave the sofa, not wait for the streaming release in 2 months and actually drive to the theater.

 

The old times are truly a thing of the past. We will never see a summer like in the 2000s again with hit after hit after hit. Even summer seasons that are closer to us like 2018 or 2015 with many big hits following each other, that will never happen again. It’s a new reality that studios, actors, theater owners and ofc us box office followers will have to accept.

I guess everyone is finally coming around to accept this reality