The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[vafrow]

21 hours ago, vafrow said:

 

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, T-5 Thursday previews and Wednesday EA shows, western GTA (southern Ontario)

 

Total Sales: 100

New Sales: 17

Growth: 20%

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 20

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 5.0

Ticket premium in effect: Yes

 

Sales by timing (sales/showtimes)

Late Afternoon: 6/3

Early Evening: 84/7

Late Evening: 10/6

 

Sales by Format (sales/showtimes)

Dolby: 40/7

IMAX: 25/6

VIP: 35/3

 

EA shows 

Sales: 59

Theatres: 5

Showtimes: 5

New Sales: 8

 

Comps (excludes EA unless stated)

1.916x Fall Guy (both with EA and preview) for $6.0M

0.123x Dune 2 for $1.2M

1.316x GB:FE for $6.2M

0.382x GxK for $3.8M

0.402x HG: BoSS for $2.3M

 

Average: $3.9M

 

A good jump up in the comps.

 

Some thing to watch for this week is to see if sales pick up. The Leafs lost last night and are out of the playoffs. With the Blue Jays being bad, there's not much of a sports alternative. It should result in more ticket demand, but we'll see.

 

 

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, T-4 Thursday previews and Wednesday EA shows, western GTA (southern Ontario)

 

Total Sales: 112

New Sales: 12

Growth: 12%

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 20

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 5.0

Ticket premium in effect: Yes

 

Sales by timing (sales/showtimes)

Late Afternoon: 7/3

Early Evening: 95/7

Late Evening: 10/6

 

Sales by Format (sales/showtimes)

Dolby: 45/7

IMAX: 31/6

VIP: 36/3

 

EA shows 

Sales: 73

Theatres: 5

Showtimes: 5

New Sales: 14

 

Comps (excludes EA unless stated)

1.745x Fall Guy (both with EA and preview) for $5.5M

0.120x Dune 2 for $1.2M

1.349x GB:FE for $6.3M

0.364x GxK for $3.6M

0.382x HG: BoSS for $2.2M

 

Average: $3.8M

 

A slight decline in the comps, as the preceding Sunday is usually a big day for sales. Still, it's holding it's own. 

 

[katnisscinnaplex]

17 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Kingdom of Apes	T-4	Jax	5	48	19	148	8,321	1.78%
		Phx	7	45	18	167	8,127	2.05%
		Ral	8	43	20	157	6,314	2.49%
	Total		20	136	57	472	22,762	2.07%
Kingdom of Apes (EA)	T-3	Jax	5	9	17	141	1,802	7.82%
		Phx	1	2	-1	102	618	16.50%
		Ral	2	2	0	59	412	14.32%
	Total		8	13	16	302	2,832	10.66%

 

T-4 (Total) adjusted comps

 - Fall Guy (Total) - 2.51x (7.92m)

 - M:I 7 (Total) - .497x (4.37m)

 - F9 - .624x (4.69m)

 - Dune - missed

 - NTTD (Total) - .62x (4.06m)

 - TMNT (Total) - .632x (3.75m)

 - Fantastic Beasts 3 - missed

 - Godzilla x Kong - .707x (6.37m)

 - Uncharted - missed

 - Transformers (Total) - .515x (4.44m)

 

Size adjusted comps - 5.57m

 

T-3 (EA) adjusted comps

 - Top Gun EA - .199x (935k)

 - Ungentlemanly EA - 1x (708k)

 - Fall Guy EA - 2.46x (1.96m)

 - M:I 7 EA - .534x (640k)

 - Transformers EA - .529x (936k)

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Kingdom of Apes	T-3	Jax	5	50	27	175	8,509	2.06%
		Phx	7	45	23	190	8,127	2.34%
		Ral	8	43	25	182	6,314	2.88%
	Total		20	138	75	547	22,950	2.38%
Kingdom of Apes (EA)	T-2	Jax	5	9	13	154	1,802	8.55%
		Phx	1	2	7	109	618	17.64%
		Ral	2	2	6	65	412	15.78%
	Total		8	13	26	328	2,832	11.58%

 

T-3 (Thu) adjusted comps*

 - Fall Guy (Thu) - 2.54x (5.98m)

 - M:I 7 (Thu) - .492x (3.15m)

 - F9 - .378x (2.84m)

 - Dune - .464x (2.46m)

 - NTTD (Thu) - missed

 - TMNT (Thu) - 1.02x (4.16m)

 - Fantastic Beasts 3 - .29x (1.79m)

 - Godzilla x Kong - .428x (3.86m)

 - Uncharted - .809x (3.07m)

 - Transformers (Thu) - .517x (3.7m)

 

Size adjusted comps - 3.97m

 

T-2 (EA) adjusted comps

 - Top Gun EA - .204x (962k)

 - Ungentlemanly EA - .997x (706k)

 - Fall Guy EA - 2.231x (1.79m)

 - M:I 7 EA - .508x (609k)

 - Creed III EA - 1.367x (1.37m)

 - Transformers EA - .521x (922k)

 

Size adjusted comps - 1.07m

 

*Changed the first set to Thursday only.  Still looking at around 5m total

[katnisscinnaplex]

On 4/30/2024 at 7:52 AM, katnisscinnaplex said:

Just for kicks I took a look at the LotR re-releases scheduled for June.  They're getting one show each (for the most part) in around 1k theaters.  

 

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
LotR Fellowship (Re) (OD)	T-39	Jax	5	5	129	129	833	15.49%
		Phx	5	6	286	286	942	30.36%
		Ral	5	6	211	211	622	33.92%
	Total		15	17	626	626	2,397	26.12%
LotR Return of the King (Re) (OD)	T-41	Jax	5	5	111	111	833	13.33%
		Phx	5	6	247	247	942	26.22%
		Ral	5	6	191	191	622	30.71%
	Total		15	17	549	549	2,397	22.90%
LotR Two Towers (Re) (OD)	T-40	Jax	5	5	114	114	833	13.69%
		Phx	5	6	228	228	942	24.20%
		Ral	5	5	186	186	534	34.83%
	Total		15	16	528	528	2,309	22.87%

 

 

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
LotR Fellowship (Re) (OD)	T-33	Jax	5	5	172	172	833	20.65%
		Phx	5	9	391	391	1,277	30.62%
		Ral	5	6	268	268	622	43.09%
	Total		15	20	831	831	2,732	30.42%
LotR Return of the King (Re) (OD)	T-35	Jax	5	5	151	151	833	18.13%
		Phx	5	7	339	339	1,049	32.32%
		Ral	5	6	245	245	622	39.39%
	Total		15	18	735	735	2,504	29.35%
LotR Two Towers (Re) (OD)	T-34	Jax	5	5	160	160	833	19.21%
		Phx	5	8	316	316	1,156	27.34%
		Ral	5	5	239	239	534	44.76%
	Total		15	18	715	715	2,523	28.34%

 

Up to ~1,400 shows now with new locations picking it up and others adding a second showing.  For comparison, Phantom Menace didn't break 800 tickets until T-3 and we're still over a month out.  JW3 comp is currently around 9m (it was at 1,670 tickets sold at this point!)

[emoviefan]

It feels like Apes is at the point where it needs the review bump.The question is will get it on Wednesday. It really depends on how enthusiastic the reviews are I would assume. That could push it over. As I said earlier the Cesar Trilogy movies all had strong walkups and were not frontloaded at all on their OW.

[Unfitclock]

The fall guy was very backloaded from its previews and it’s got Mother’s Day on Sunday so those two things should help it

[emoviefan]

1 minute ago, Unfitclock said:

The fall guy was very backloaded from its previews and it’s got Mother’s Day on Sunday so those two things should help it

Yeah it did have a IM of at least 9 from previews to weekend. That's not bad.

[Unfitclock]

@emoviefan more than 10x remember it only did about 2.3mil on true Thursday previews 

[Eric Lasagna]

Quorum Updates

Horizon: An American Saga Part 1 T-53: 19.32% Awareness, 36.08% Interest

Harold and the Purple Crayon T-88: 15.7% Awareness, 35.05% Interest

Cuckoo T-95: 13.62% Awareness, 41.5% Interest

Smile 2 T-165: 23.18% Awareness, 46.57% Interest

The Best Christmas Pageant Ever T-186: 5.38% Awareness, 24.54% Interest

 

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes T-4: 63.83% Awareness, 57.81% Interest

Final Awareness: 92% chance of 30M, 87% chance of 40M, 75% chance of 50M, 62% chance of 60M, 50% chance of 70M, 37% chance of 80M, 29% chance of 100M

Tentpole Awareness: 100% chance of 30M, 90% chance of 40M, 80% chance of 60M, 50% chance of 70M, 40% chance of 80M, 20% chance of 100M

Final Interest: 46% chance of 40M, 32% chance of 50M, 24% chance of 60M, 17% chance of 70M, 15% chance of 80M, 12% chance of 90M, 8% chance of 100M

Tentpole Interest: 92% chance of 40M, 69% chance of 50M, 61% chance of 60M, 38% chance of 70M, 31% chance of 80M, 15% chance of 100M

 

Back to Black T-11: 28.66% Awareness, 39.27% Interest

Final Awareness: 16% chance of 10M

Low Awareness: 14% chance of 10M

Final Interest: 15% chance of 10M, 8% chance of 20M

Low Interest: 13% chance of 10M, 9% chance of 20M

 

IF T-11: 51.58% Awareness, 52.12% Interest

Final Awareness: 92% chance of 20M, 72% chance of 30M, 36% chance of 40M, 24% chance of 50M, 16% chance of 60M

Animation/Family Awareness: 100% chance of 20M, 33% chance of 30M

Final Interest: 78% chance of 20M, 59% chance of 30M, 46% chance of 40M, 32% chance of 50M, 24% chance of 60M

Animation/Family Interest: 100% chance of 50M, 60% chance of 90M, 40% chance of 100M

 

The Strangers: Chapter 1 T-11: 33.35% Awareness, 48.49% Interest

Final Awareness: 41% chance of 10M, 7% chance of 20M

Horror Awareness: 43% chance of 10M, 7% chance of 20M

Final Interest: 49% chance of 10M, 17% chance of 20M

Horror Interest: 42% chance of 10M, 10% chance of 20M

 

Bad Boys: Ride or Die T-32: 57.97% Awareness, 61.32% Interest

Final Awareness: 100% chance of 20M, 95% chance of 30M, 89% chance of 40M, 79% chance of 50M, 58% chance of 60M, 53% chance of 70M, 37% chance of 80M, 32% chance of 100M

Medium Awareness: 100% chance of 50M, 67% chance of 70M, 33% chance of 100M

Final Interest: 100% chance of 70M, 80% chance of 100M

Medium Interest: 100% chance of 70M

[kayumanggi]

 

[el sid]

I will count Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes tomorrow. Today I counted Garfield and IF.

 

Garfield had today for Thursday, May 23, 43 sold tickets (in 7 theaters). 17 days left.

Seems not much but it's a step in the right direction. 

Comp: Migration (1.5M from previews) had with 11 days left 67 sold tickets.

 

Tomorrow I will (exactly) count its presales for Sunday, May 19. But I can already report that also in my theaters it looks very good for Garfield. They will for sure add shows soon. It has so far only 1 show/theater and the shows are almost sold out, between 1 and 4 seats are still available :). 

So my guess still is that this movie if it's not totally bad (and first reviews here were quite positive) will become a (big) hit.

 

Edit: Numbers for IF tomorrow because I'm tired and still have to search for more comps. But it looked good for the film, both on Thursday and on Friday. 

Edited May 6 by el sid

[AniNate]

On 5/4/2024 at 10:59 PM, AniNate said:

KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES - Thurs/Fri

 

Cinemark Cuyahoga Falls and XD - 43
Cinemark Tinseltown North Canton and XD - 153
Cinemark Bistro North Canton - 10
Cinemark Valley View - 122

 

These presales leave something to be desired, especially for the Bistro. I guess the "dine-in" experience doesn't have the luster it used to have compared to the PLF of the theater a mile away.

 

 

 

 

KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES - Thurs/Fri

 

Cinemark Cuyahoga Falls and XD - 63 (+46.5%)

Cinemark Tinseltown North Canton and XD - 220 (+43.8%)

Cinemark Bistro North Canton - 12 (+20%)
Cinemark Valley View and XD - 179 (+46.7%)

 

People still want the PLF clearly

[SpiderByte]

Surprised no Furiosa tickets in the US yet frankly

[AJG]

34 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

Surprised no Furiosa tickets in the US yet frankly

Have I missed something with Furiosa?

 

I thought the last Mad Max was great but everyone’s acting like Furiousa is in trouble.

[AniNate]

They literally aren't on sale yet here

[AniNate]

Tinseltown Canton continues to be a presales oasis for IF, now at 101 for the weekend

[SpiderByte]

3 hours ago, AJG said:

Have I missed something with Furiosa?

 

I thought the last Mad Max was great but everyone’s acting like Furiousa is in trouble.

Oh it's not doing bad, they just literally aren't on sale yet 

[emoviefan]

Have they announced a sales date for Furiosa yet? Going with a short window I guess. I can't see it being much past  the end of this week.

[AniNate]

Wednesday

 

 

 

[abracadabra1998]

23 hours ago, abracadabra1998 said:

 

Minnesota Previews:

 

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes (T-4):

Day: T-4, T-3	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Thursday: 25 theaters	98	166	455	17196	2.65
Wednesday May 8 EA: 19 theaters	23	89	454	5146	8.82
TOTALS:	121	255	909	22342	4.07

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		329	99	72.31
MTC1:		247	84	54.29
Alamo:		20	0	4.4
Other chains:		188	82	41.32

 

Comps (Thursday only):

1.78x The Fall Guy (THU): $4.19 Million

0.43x Godzilla x Kong: $3.93 Million (17 theaters)

0.72x Ghostbusters Frozen Empire: $3.38 Million (17 theaters)

0.79x Madame Web: $4.77 Million (17 theaters)

0.25x FNAF: $2.6 Million (17 theaters)

0.36x Indy 5: $2.61 Million (17 theaters)

0.33x MI7 (TUE): $2.33 Million (17 theaters)

 

Average: $3.4 Million

 

Comps (EA only):

1.59x Fall Guy EA: $1.27 Million

2.11x Challengers T-4 EA: $1.16 Million

0.45x Dune Part 2 EA: $900k (17 theaters)

0.74x MI7 EA: $1.48 Million (17 theaters)

 

Average: $1.2 Million

 

Very good EA numbers at the moment, and I would think that with it drawing from Thursday previews that is also a good sign. I am bullish for this, pace keeps doing pretty well!

 

Minnesota Previews:

 

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes (T-3):

Day: T-3, T-2	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Thursday: 25 theaters	117	103	558	19588	2.85
Wednesday May 8 EA: 19 theaters	23	57	511	5146	9.93
TOTALS:	140	160	1069	24734	4.32

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		413	84	74.01
MTC1:		292	45	52.33
Alamo:		26	6	4.66
Other chains:		240	52	43.01

 

Comps (Thursday only):

1.8x The Fall Guy (THU): $4.23 Million

0.72x Ghostbusters Frozen Empire: $3.4 Million (17 theaters)

Madame Web: Missed

0.26x FNAF: $2.66 Million (17 theaters)

0.36x Indy 5: $2.61 Million (17 theaters)

0.36x MI7 (TUE): $2.54 Million (17 theaters)

 

Average: $3.09 Million

 

Comps (EA only):

1.62x Fall Guy EA: $1.3 Million

1.58x Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare EA: $945k

1.28x Mean Girls EA: $830k (17 theaters)

0.76x MI7 EA: $1.52 Million (17 theaters)

 

Average: $1.15 Million

 

The average went down artificially because I didn't track GxK's last week and missed today's update for Madame Web, all comps actually went up except for Indy which stayed steady! I think Fall Guy is the best comp here because of the very similar EA situation

[TheFlatLannister]

On 5/5/2024 at 6:49 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

FLORIDA 

 

KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES

 

Thursday 

 

T-4

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
525	3009	106598	2.8%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

248

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

COMPS

T-4

(0.390x) of Dune 2 $3.63M

(0.707x) of Ghostbusters $3.32M

(0.645x) of Godzilla and Kong $6.45M

Comps average: $4.47M

 

Interesting T-4. Not the best growth, but not terrible either. Increased against all comps which is a good sign. 

FLORIDA 

 

KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES

 

Thursday 

 

T-2

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
578	3439	112085	3.1%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

430

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

53

 

COMPS

T-2

(0.403x) of Dune 2 $3.75M

(0.728x) of Ghostbusters $3.42M

(0.613x) of Godzilla and Kong $6.13M

Comps average: $4.43M

 

It's getting harder to track with Fandango crapping out all the time. Overall, a good update...Looking like $4M+ previews without EA