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The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

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Presales Tracking Information   I guess this is as good of a time as any to share this sheet I've been putting together for the past few weeks.  It's a table of movies from the past few years with relevant pre-sales information (release date, sales date, sales window, previews gross, etc.)  @datpepper and I will try to keep it updated when ticket sales dates are announced for upcoming films to make those easier to find.     There are a few gaps in the sheet where I couldn't f

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I’m sure I’ve done enough “reminding” at this point that this is the tracking thread and not a discussion thread. Take your predictions and commentary elsewhere. No more warnings on this subject.
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The Wild Robot T-6

 

Tickets sold: 52 (+5)

Growth: 11%

Theaters: 2

Showtimes: 12

The Wild Robot T-4

 

Tickets sold: 65 (+13)

Growth (over the past 2 days): 25%

Theaters: 2

Showtimes: 12

 

1,85x Speak No Evil (T-4) – 2,4M

It has also already sold more tickets than Transformers One on its T-2.

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Megalopolis T-6

 

Tickets sold: 60

Theaters: 2

Showtimes: 7

 

It's currently ahead of Speak No Evil's T-3, which is surprisingly not awful. Pretty much all tickets that are sold are for the IMAX shows. Having a strong feeling this is going to be one of those movies that has very small growth in the final week, but let’s see.

Megalopolis T-4

 

Tickets sold: 64

Growth (over the past 2 days): 7%

Theaters: 2

Showtimes: 7

 

1,82x Speak No Evil (T-4) – 2,3M

Yeah, I don't think this will actually open with 2M+ previews. The small growth % indeed suggests its presales might be frontloaded.

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Joker: Folie a Deux T-13

 

Tickets sold: 252 (+16)

Growth: 7%

Theaters: 2

Showtimes: 21

 

Staying steady. I will check again on all my current tracks on Sunday.

Joker: Folie a Deux T-11

 

Tickets sold: 262 (+10)

Growth (over the past 2 days): 4%

Theaters: 2

Showtimes: 21

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I was gonna say how is Wild Robot comparable to Speak No Evil, but it certainly ought to have a higher walkup proportion so if it's tracking at 2.4 at this point that ought to guarantee at least a 35mil+ opening

It's the only T-4 comp I currently have and @vafrow mentioned last week that horror movie comps actually prove to be useful for animation flicks, due to both of them being genres with high walkups. At T-2, I might be able to use Transformers One, as long as I find out what the actual Thursday number for that was, excluding the EA shows.

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Joker 2

Thurs Oct 3 Fri Oct 4

Vancouver and Calgary Canada(t-12)

 

Vancouver                
  Thurs 3 11 107 1982 2089 0.0512  
  Fri 4 32 163 6190 6353 0.0256  
    # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent  
Calgary                
  Thurs 4 20 61 4083 4144 0.0147  
  Fri 4 32 82 5174 5256 0.0156 4 shows added
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3 hours ago, filmpalace said:

It's the only T-4 comp I currently have and @vafrow mentioned last week that horror movie comps actually prove to be useful for animation flicks, due to both of them being genres with high walkups. At T-2, I might be able to use Transformers One, as long as I find out what the actual Thursday number for that was, excluding the EA shows.

That actually reminds me of something. If transformers’ hadn’t had EA shows, and the Thursday number have been higher since fans would be going to that, would it have changed what the projections looked like?

 

Like, let’s say it hadn’t had previews or EA, and was projected to earn 3.6 million on Thursday alone, would projections then assume the movie was going to do a lot more than 25mil?

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Joker 2

Thurs Oct 3 Fri Oct 4

Vancouver and Calgary Canada(t-12)

 

Vancouver                
  Thurs 3 11 107 1982 2089 0.0512  
  Fri 4 32 163 6190 6353 0.0256  
    # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent  
Calgary                
  Thurs 4 20 61 4083 4144 0.0147  
  Fri 4 32 82 5174 5256 0.0156 4 shows added

 

That's a big discrepancy between the Thursday grosses for the two markets. Vancouver is near 10 tickets per showtime. Calgary around 3.

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Question:  They are doing at Terrifier 2/Terrifier 3 back to back double feature on Thursday October 10 as well as Terrifier 3 only showings.  For the purposes of box office reporting, do those get reported separately?  Does it all count toward Terrifier 3 box office?  Does some go to Terrifier 2’s box office?  Thanks for any insight.

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Quorum Updates

Piece by Piece T-18: 20.42% Awareness, 30.63% Interest

Terrifier 3 T-18: 30.06% Awareness, 38.38% Interest

Sonic the Hedgehog 3 T-88: 49.74% Awareness, 49.96% Interest

Den of Thieves: Pantera T-109: 19.47% Awareness, 35.55% Interest

Paddington in Peru T-116: 28.51% Awareness, 35.06% Interest

 

Bagman T-2: 19.12% Awareness, 38.25% Interest

Final Awareness: 0% chance of 10M

Horror Awareness: 0% chance of 10M

Final Interest: 22% chance of 10M

Horror Interest: 20% chance of 10M

 

Megalopolis T-4: 23% Awareness, 36.1% Interest

Final Awareness: 17% chance of 10M

Medium Awareness: 25% chance of 10M

Final Interest: 22% chance of 10M

Medium Interest: 50% chance of 10M

 

The Wild Robot T-4: 40.9% Awareness, 44.55% Interest

Final Awareness: 77% chance of 10M, 46% chance of 20M, 25% chance of 30M

Animation/Family Awareness: 83% chance of 10M, 17% chance of 20M

Final Interest: 45% chance of 10M, 18% chance of 20M, 9% chance of 30M

Animation/Family Interest: 82% chance of 10M, 54% chance of 20M, 18% chance of 30M

 

Joker: Folie a Deux T-11: 69.48% Awareness, 61.65% Interest

Final Awareness: 90% chance of 30M, 86% chance of 40M, 76% chance of 50M, 59% chance of 60M, 48% chance of 70M, 38% chance of 80M, 28% chance of 100M

Tentpole Awareness: 100% chance of 30M, 92% chance of 40M, 83% chance of 50M, 75% chance of 60M, 50% chance of 70M, 42% chance of 80M, 17% chance of 100M

Final Interest: 100% chance of 30M, 90% chance of 70M, 80% chance of 100M

Tentpole Interest: 100% chance of 30M, 67% chance of 100M

 

White Bird T-11: 17.65% Awareness, 36.95% Interest

Final Awareness: 0% chance of 10M

Low Awareness: 0% chance of 10M

Final Interest: 22% chance of 10M

Low Interest: 9% chance of 20M

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THE WILD ROBOT

 

THURSDAY PREVIEWS:

 

BISTRO NORTH CANTON 2
CUYAHOGA FALLS 5
MONROEVILLE MALL 0
NORTH HILLS 41
ROBINSON TOWNSHIP 11
STRONGSVILLE 7
TINSELTOWN BOARDMAN 2
TINSELTOWN NORTH CANTON 14
TOWNSHIP MARKETPLACE 5
VALLEY VIEW 2
WOOSTER

0

 

 

Total: 89 (+14.1%)

 

FRIDAY

 

BISTRO NORTH CANTON 7
CUYAHOGA FALLS 21
MONROEVILLE MALL 4
NORTH HILLS 84
ROBINSON TOWNSHIP 25
STRONGSVILLE 22
TINSELTOWN BOARDMAN 7
TINSELTOWN NORTH CANTON 51
TOWNSHIP MARKETPLACE 3
VALLEY VIEW 6
WOOSTER

2

 

 

Total: 232 (+11.5%)

 

 

THE WILD ROBOT

 

THURSDAY PREVIEWS

 

BISTRO NORTH CANTON 2
CUYAHOGA FALLS 4
MONROEVILLE MALL 0
NORTH HILLS 48
ROBINSON TOWNSHIP 11
STRONGSVILLE 9
TINSELTOWN BOARDMAN 2
TINSELTOWN NORTH CANTON 19
TOWNSHIP MARKETPLACE 5
VALLEY VIEW 8
WOOSTER 0

 

Total: 108 (+21.3%)

 

FRIDAY

 

BISTRO NORTH CANTON 7
CUYAHOGA FALLS 25
MONROEVILLE MALL 4
NORTH HILLS 92
ROBINSON TOWNSHIP 34
STRONGSVILLE 25
TINSELTOWN BOARDMAN 11
TINSELTOWN NORTH CANTON 51
TOWNSHIP MARKETPLACE 3
VALLEY VIEW 6
WOOSTER 2

 

Total: 260 (+12.1%)

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The Wild Robot, T-5, Western GTA (southern Ontario), Thursday Previews

 

Total Sales: 40

New Sales : 6

Growth: 18%

Theatres: 5

Showtimes: 17

Tickets per Showtime: 2.1

Chains tracked: MTC4

Ticket Premium in effect: N

 

Sales by Showtime

Late Afternoon: 16/5

Early Evening: 18/7

Late Evening: 6/5

 

Preview Sales by Format

Regular:  6/1

Regular 3D: 0/1

Dolby: 8/2

Dolby 3D: 19/8

IMAX: 7/4

 

Comps 

0.260x KFP4 for $1.2M

0.313x IO2 for $4.1M

10.000x Garfield for $19.3M

1.481x TFOne for $4.1M

5.000x IF for $8.8M

0.714x Wonka for $2.5M

 

Average: $6.7M

 

Its staying strong.

 

 

The Wild Robot, T-4, Western GTA (southern Ontario), Thursday Previews

 

Total Sales: 56

New Sales : 16

Growth: 40%

Theatres: 5

Showtimes: 17

Tickets per Showtime: 2.9

Chains tracked: MTC4

Ticket Premium in effect: N

 

Sales by Showtime

Late Afternoon: 17/5

Early Evening: 33/7

Late Evening: 6/5

 

Preview Sales by Format

Regular:  7/1

Regular 3D: 0/1

Dolby: 8/2

Dolby 3D: 34/8

IMAX: 7/4

 

Comps 

0.276x KFP4 for $1.3M

0.357x IO2 for $4.6M

14.000x Garfield for $27.0M

1.867x TFOne for $5.2M

4.667x IF for $8.2M

0.778x Wonka for $2.7M

 

Average: $8.2M

 

A couple of big group sales made this jump up quite a bit. We're at the point where the comps started accelerating as well around now, so it'll probably regress a bit over the next few days. Or it won't. We'll see.

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Joker: Folie a Deux, T-12, Western GTA (southern Ontario), Thursday Previews and Monday EA 

 

Total Sales: 116

New Sales: 8

Growth: 7%

Theatres: 5

Showtimes: 19

Tickets per Showtime: 6.1

Chains tracked: MTC4

Ticket Premium in effect: Y

 

Sales by Showtime

Late Afternoon: 8/4

Early Evening: 72/9

Late Evening: 36/6

 

Preview Sales by Format

Dolby: 45/7

VIP: 41/6

IMAX: 30/6

 

Comps

1.333x Beetlejuice² for $13.1M

0.736x GxK for $7.4M

0.244x Dune 2 for $2.4M

0.963x BB:RoD for $5.7M

0.325x The Marvels for $2.1M

1.064x Alien Romulus for $6.9M

Average: $6.3M

 

Monday EA Sales

Total:148

New sales: 10

Growth: 7%

Showings: 2 IMAX showing in radius 

 

EA Comp

0.330x Dune 2 for $0.7M

2.027x Twisters for $5.5M

3.217x The Fall Guy for $2.6M

 

Average: $2.9M

 

I added more EA shows. That's still hard to pin down.

 

Growth in all areas remains steady.

 

 

Joker: Folie a Deux, T-11, Western GTA (southern Ontario), Thursday Previews and Monday EA 

 

Total Sales: 120

New Sales: 4

Growth: 3%

Theatres: 5

Showtimes: 19

Tickets per Showtime: 6.3

Chains tracked: MTC4

Ticket Premium in effect: Y

 

Sales by Showtime

Late Afternoon: 8/4

Early Evening: 75/9

Late Evening: 37/6

 

Preview Sales by Format

Dolby: 48/7

VIP: 41/6

IMAX: 37/6

 

Comps

1.348x Beetlejuice² for $13.2M

0.710x GxK for $7.1M

0.245x Dune 2 for $2.4M

0.909x BB:RoD for $5.2M

0.331x The Marvels for $2.2M

1.062x Alien Romulus for $6.9M

Average: $6.2M

 

Monday EA Sales

Total:161

New sales: 13

Growth: 9%

Showings: 2 IMAX showing in radius 

 

EA Comp

0.349x Dune 2 for $0.7M

2.147x Twisters for $5.8M

3.286x The Fall Guy for $2.6M

 

Average: $3.0M

 

Fairly uneventful day.

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Terrifier 3 California presale update.

Thursday Oct 10 showings only.

74 theaters.

169 showings.

T-22 was 1,743 tickets sold.  23.554 tickets per theater or 10.3136 tickets per showing.

 

T-17 is 2,352 tickets sold (+34.94%).  31.7838 tickets per theater or 13.917 tickets per showing.

 

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Terrifier 3 California presale update.

Thursday Oct 10 showings only.

74 theaters.

169 showings.

T-22 was 1,743 tickets sold.  23.554 tickets per theater or 10.3136 tickets per showing.

 

T-17 is 2,352 tickets sold (+34.94%).  31.7838 tickets per theater or 13.917 tickets per showing.

 

Did anyone here do tracking for Terrifier 2 when it came out. Any tracking data? Would make some good comparisons with T3.

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