The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[AniNate]

54 minutes ago, emoviefan said:

Trying not to get political but one of the candidates is making it pretty easy to get anxious,. Do not expect a response that will derail the thread.  Just putting it out there.

 

As far as studio scheduling goes it is still an irrational fear based on historical data. It may be understandable emotionally (and I assume many people in high places at those studios are in the same camp) but objectively there's not much reason to avoid the beginning of November even in an election year.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 03:06 AM by AniNate

[emoviefan]

11 minutes ago, wattage said:

You're ignoring the soon to be box office juggernaut Red One! 

 

Jokes aside it being the first new film in Hollywood imposed a dry period with stars who are recognizable and "bringing in the new season" with it being a Christmas film it might be enough to get it to number 1 on its opening weekend. 

Yeah even a 15-20 opening would get it to number 1 since Venom will have burnt off a lots of its business by that time.  Maybe it will be good and do better than that. Not holding my breath on that though.

[filmlover]

3 minutes ago, AniNate said:

 

As far as studio scheduling goes it is still an irrational fear based on historical data. It may be understandable emotionally (and I assume many people in high places at those studios are in the same camp) but objectively there's not much reason to avoid the beginning of November even in an election year.

 

 

They're clearly banking on Wicked/Gladiator being a massive kick-off for the holiday season box office leading into Moana over the long frame following an especially anxious election cycle. The holidays are pretty much banking entirely on those three + Mufasa and Sonic around Christmas to carry the season since everything else seems too niche in appeal to breakout big (although they've been running commercials for A Complete Unknown on TV already this far out so maybe they're hoping that can fill a void of some sorts).

[emoviefan]

4 minutes ago, AniNate said:

 

As far as studio scheduling goes it is still an irrational fear based on historical data. It may be understandable emotionally (and I assume many people in high places at those studios are in the same camp) but objectively there's not much reason to avoid the beginning of November even in an election year.

 

 

Yeah I hear you. I am not even sure the election fears are the sole reason. The schedule for tentpoles is still light from the strikes and just the fact that the studios are making fewer big movies.Paramount could have moved Gladiator 2 to the Nov 8th weekend I guess and they would have had The number one slot they will not get on that weekend of the 22 but they probably decided not to chance it and were willing to sacrifice the number one slot for that lucrative 10 day Thanksgiving period.

[AniNate]

I said it in the Gladiator thread but I do actually feel like that movie could've worked as a post-election catharsis. Whoever wins, the other side will want to be indulging some bloodlust afterwards and that would be a way to fantasize about it without hurting anyone.

[filmlover]

There was a report a while back that said that one of the reasons studios backed off from releasing around the election is that advertising costs are higher. Giving Gladiator and Wicked two weeks for their premieres and press tours (though the latter has essentially been on one that's lasted throughout the year) is still enough time since those are when any movie's momentum is supposed to be peaking anyway.

[Flip]

8 hours ago, Flip said:

Venom 3 (T-11)

 

25 showtimes/169 tix sold (+8)

 

.97x AQP Day One (T-12) [6.60m]
.73x Beetlejuice 2 (T-11) [7.15m]
Missed Deadpool 3 (T-11) [???]

 

Still haven’t seen signs of an explosion in sales. Tomorrow I’ll add BB4

Venom 3 (T-10)

 

25 showtimes/174 tix sold (+5)

 

Missed AQP Day One (T-10) [???]
.70x Beetlejuice 2 (T-10) [6.86m]
Missed Deadpool 3 (T-10) [???]

1.47x Bad Boys 4 (T-10) [8.20m]

 

Doesn’t look like it’s going to have a crazy acceleration like Venom 2 as of right now.

[Flip]

Smile 2 (T-3)

 

4 showtimes/73 tix sold (+32)

 

.89x Speak No Evil (T-3) [1.16m]

1.00x The Watchers (T-3) [1.00m]
 

until yesterday this only had two showtimes allocated… not sure who wants this to fail. It doesn’t make much sense either since there’s not any big openers or holdovers this weekend. Hopefully it can get more showtimes allocated before Thursday

[Flip]

On 10/12/2024 at 11:24 AM, Flip said:

Gladiator 2 Day Four (T-41)

 

14 showtimes/73 tix sold (-1)

1.06x AQP Day One (T-28) [7.21m]
2.09x Twisters 2nd Day (T-41) [15.68m]
 

 not expecting a lot of growth over the next few weeks

Gladiator 2 (T-38) 3 days of sales

 

14 showtimes/81 tix sold (+8)

1.17x AQP Day One (T-28) [7.96m]
1.98x Twisters 2nd Day (T-38) [14.85m]

[crazymoviekid]

Smile 2: 

 

Thursday Comps: 

 

Theater 1: 0 Tickets
Theater 2: 5 Tickets

 

Speak No Evil: $.65M
Abigail: $1.25M
Thanksgiving: $.63M
Saw X: $1.00M
The Nun 2: $.82M 

Smile: $.83M

 

Really not great for a sequel. Can be anywhere from $.6M-$1.25M for now

[filmlover]

It kind of feels like Paramount is dumping Smile 2 tbh. Guess it all depends on the reviews.

[Flip]

On 10/12/2024 at 11:19 AM, Flip said:

Wicked 2 Day Three (T-41)

 

15 showtimes/550 tix sold (+31)

 

Missed Deadpool 3 (T-41) [???]

2.29x Joker 2 Day Three [14.43m]
7.53x Gladiator 2 (T-42) [???]

 

very strong 3rd day, I’m interested to see if it ever reaches very low sales or if it’s too big to do that.

Wicked 2 (T-38)

 

15 showtimes/585 tix sold (+35)

 

Missed Deadpool 3 (T-38) [???]
7.22x Gladiator 2 (T-38) [???]

[vafrow]

On 10/14/2024 at 6:25 AM, vafrow said:

 

Smile 2, T-4, Western GTA (southern Ontario), Thursday Previews

 

Total Sales: 44

New Sales: 9

Growth: 26%

Theatres: 5

Showtimes: 10

Tickets per Showtime: 4.4

Chains tracked: MTC4

Ticket Premium in effect: N

 

Sales by Showtime

Early Evening: 32/5

Late Evening: 12/5

 

Preview Sales by Format

Regular: 44/10

 

Comps 

0.571x AQP:D1 for $3.9M

0.216x Alien Romulus for $1.4M

0.355x Furiosa for $1.2M

 

Average: $2.2M

 

Showing some life here. It had it's first good day in a while. Hope it sticks.

 

Smile 2, T-3, Western GTA (southern Ontario), Thursday Previews

 

Total Sales: 57

New Sales: 13

Growth: 30%

Theatres: 5

Showtimes: 10

Tickets per Showtime: 5.7

Chains tracked: MTC4

Ticket Premium in effect: N

 

Sales by Showtime

Early Evening: 42/5

Late Evening: 15/5

 

Preview Sales by Format

Regular: 57/10

 

Comps 

0.626x AQP:D1 for $4.3M

0.235x Alien Romulus for $1.5M

0.370x Furiosa for $1.3M

 

Average: $2.4M

 

Another solid day. And there's no T-Mobile deal here or anything. This just started really picking up after it was completely dead last week. Remarkable turnaround.

[TwoMisfits]

TMobile deal can't come fast enough for Smile 2...

 

Checked my PLF local (which is an Atom theater) - 2 total tickets sold prior to the deal for Thursday and 2 for Friday...oof...there's late walk ups, and then there's late walk ups...

 

Deal will save this open...now to see if it does better than that...

Edited yesterday at 12:50 PM by TwoMisfits

[Hiccup23]

On 10/10/2024 at 8:08 AM, Hiccup23 said:

Gladiator II	Sold	Amount	Percent Sold
Thursday	47	195	24.1%
Friday	36	260	13.8%
Saturday	27	260	10.4%
Sunday	13	260	5.0%
Wicked	Sold	Amount	Percent Sold
Thursday	202	309	65.4%
Friday	177	412	43.0%
Saturday	210	412	51.0%
Sunday	126	412	30.6%

 

 

Yall Wicked is selling like nothing I have seen at this theater. 

Alamo Drafthouse Chicago (Gladiator II VS. Wicked: Part 1)

 

Gladiator II	Sold	Amount	Percent Sold
Thursday	56	195	28.7%
Friday	55	260	21.2%
Saturday	40	260	15.4%
Sunday	21	260	8.1%
Wicked	Sold	Amount	Percent Sold
Thursday	234	309	75.7%
Friday	212	412	51.5%
Saturday	276	412	67.0%
Sunday	194	412	47.1%

 

[Kon]

18 minutes ago, Hiccup23 said:

Alamo Drafthouse Chicago (Gladiator II VS. Wicked: Part 1)

 

Gladiator II	Sold	Amount	Percent Sold
Thursday	56	195	28.7%
Friday	55	260	21.2%
Saturday	40	260	15.4%
Sunday	21	260	8.1%
Wicked	Sold	Amount	Percent Sold
Thursday	234	309	75.7%
Friday	212	412	51.5%
Saturday	276	412	67.0%
Sunday	194	412	47.1%

 

The grow for Wicked is good, right?

[Hiccup23]

4 minutes ago, Kon said:

The grow for Wicked is good, right?

 

Yes! It already has show times sold out and a bunch are on the verge of sell outs. 

[vafrow]

28 minutes ago, Hiccup23 said:

Alamo Drafthouse Chicago (Gladiator II VS. Wicked: Part 1)

 

Gladiator II	Sold	Amount	Percent Sold
Thursday	56	195	28.7%
Friday	55	260	21.2%
Saturday	40	260	15.4%
Sunday	21	260	8.1%
Wicked	Sold	Amount	Percent Sold
Thursday	234	309	75.7%
Friday	212	412	51.5%
Saturday	276	412	67.0%
Sunday	194	412	47.1%

 

 

Are there preview showings for Wicked at your location? In places where there isn't a Wednesday EA show, it's helping to drive sales. Still, in either scenario, that's a strong performance.

[Hiccup23]

3 minutes ago, vafrow said:

 

Are there preview showings for Wicked at your location? In places where there isn't a Wednesday EA show, it's helping to drive sales. Still, in either scenario, that's a strong performance.

 

There is not. 

[vale9001]

11 minutes ago, vafrow said:

 

Are there preview showings for Wicked at your location? In places where there isn't a Wednesday EA show, it's helping to drive sales. Still, in either scenario, that's a strong performance.

 

It's alamo. It's a chain with very few theaters in all the country (It's only on 15 states of 50) and has a kinda of cult following cause they offer a different experience from a lot of point of views (for example some of the theaters have tables, they serve dinners and alcohol etc .).  Pre Sales are always on an over index on alamo cause there are people want to see movies there so they buy tickets weeks before.