The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[BadOlCatSylvester]

4 hours ago, HummingLemon496 said:

Why the hell are they putting this on Peacock?

Because it's probably garbage and going to drop like a rock in subsequent weeks. Plain and simple. No one does day and date anymore unless they know they're sitting on a dud.

[Porthos]

1 hour ago, Porthos said:

No sign of Renaissance tickets yet.  

 

Perhaps more worryingly, I can't even find it in the Fandango database.  Or on various corp sites, for that matter.

 

Was a little worried that the extreme last minute nature of a ticket scheduling might catch ticket websites a little flat footed, never mind individual theaters.  That might be a reason for a delay as well.

 

Suppose we'll see if it shows up in about 50 minutes or so.

 

Now on sale at AMC (w/ waiting list), but still nothing on Fandango (or Cinemark/Regal for that matter).

 

Obs waited for the announcement as mused by @datpepper, but it is... interesting that no one else has it right now.  

 

Be up sooner or later, but I imagine the Beyhive members that don't live in an area with a nearby AMC theater are... irked right now.

 

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EDIT:::

 

Via Twitter sleuthing, found the Fandango link: 

 

https://www.fandango.com/renaissance-a-film-by-beyonce-2023-233638/movie-overview?date=2023-11-30

 

and the other MTCs are here: https://beyoncefilm.com/

 

(still nothing locally, lol)

Edited October 2, 2023 by Porthos

[Seto Kaiba]

5 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

Now on sale at AMC (w/ waiting list), but still nothing on Fandango (or Cinemark/Regal for that matter).

 

Obs waited for the announcement as mused by @datpepper, but it is... interesting that no one else has it right now.  

 

Be up sooner or later, but I imagine the Beyhive members that don't live in an area with a nearby AMC theater are... irked right now.

it is coming 

 

[Porthos]

4 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

it is coming 

 

 

I saw that finally, but the board has been HELLA flaky for me the couple of hours so I wasn't able to edit my post until a few minutes ago.

[vale9001]

Why they did launch the sales in the middle of the night? 😅

[Porthos]

23 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

Taylor Swift | The Eras Tour Greater Sacramento Area Opening Night Seat Report:

T-13 days and counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	1	150	11412	19641	8229	41.90%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

44

 

T-13 Comps:

	%		Sold T-13	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final		Unadj  Comp	Ad-hoc Comp
NWH	50.84		406	16185		0/308	21367/37552	43.10%		28183	29.20%		25.42m	36.86m
MoM	77.52		216	10615		0/351	31821/42436	25.01%		21117	38.97%		27.91m	40.47m
Thor 4	120.77		265	6814		0/228	24786/31600	21.56%		16962	48.51%		35.02m	50.78m
BP2	113.50		190	7250		2/296	29904/37154	19.51%		16800	48.98%		31.78m	46.08m
AM3	168.28		123	4890		0/238	27904/32794	14.91%		10475	78.56%		29.45m	42.70m
GOTG3	223.80		83	3677		0/203	25377/29054	12.66%		10750	76.55%		39.16m	56.79m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of The Era Tour's current tickets sold versus that final number.

AD-HOC COMP NOTE: "Ad-hoc Comp" is the normal comp multiplied by 1.45x (a 45% increase), which is what I am using for now to account for the difference in ATP between TET and all other films.

 

T-13 Final Percents:

	%		Sold T-13	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final
Bats	194.13		152	4239		0/285	31225/35464	11.95%		11757	69.99%
JWD	303.99		112	2707		0/191	22665/25372	10.67%		10966	75.04%
Ava 2	279.23		148	2947		0/145	18537/21484	13.72%		8986	91.58%
AtSV	397.73		83	2069		0/129	18720/20789	9.95%		9744	84.45%
Barbie	385.25		147	2136		0/99	10577/12713	16.80%		12077	68.14%
Oppy	685.75		68	1200		0/57	7688/8888	13.50%		4621	178.08%
Barben	246.67		215	3336		0/156	18265/21601	15.44%		16698	49.28%

NOTE: Barben is shorthand for the "Barbenheimer" phenomenon and is the combined totals of Barbie and Oppenheimer

 

Regal:     2338/6150  [38.02% sold]

 

Taylor Swift | The Eras Tour Greater Sacramento Area Opening Night Seat Report:

T-12 days and counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	1	150	11339	19641	8302	42.27%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

73

 

T-12 Comps:

	%		Sold T-12	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final		Unadj  Comp	Ad-hoc Comp
NWH	50.22		347	16532		0/308	21020/37552	44.02%		28183	29.46%		25.11m	36.41m
MoM	76.61		221	10836		0/351	31600/42436	25.53%		21117	39.31%		27.58m	39.99m
Thor 4	118.91		168	6982		0/228	24618/31600	22.09%		16962	48.94%		34.48m	50.00m
BP2	111.95		166	7416		2/296	29738/37154	19.96%		16800	49.42%		31.35m	45.45m
AM3	165.54		125	5015		0/238	27779/32794	15.29%		10475	79.26%		28.97m	42.01m
GOTG3	220.10		95	3772		0/203	25282/29054	12.98%		10750	77.23%		38.52m	55.85m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of The Era Tour's current tickets sold versus that final number.

AD-HOC COMP NOTE: "Ad-hoc Comp" is the normal comp multiplied by 1.45x (a 45% increase), which is what I am using for now to account for the difference in ATP between TET and all other films.

 

T-12 Final Percents:

	%		Sold T-12	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final
Bats	191.38		99	4338		0/285	31126/35464	12.23%		11757	70.61%
JWD	295.23		105	2812		0/191	22562/25374	11.08%		10966	75.71%
Ava 2	264.90		187	3134		0/145	18350/21484	14.59%		8986	92.39%
AtSV	385.42		85	2154		0/129	18632/20786	10.36%		9744	85.20%
Barbie	360.96		164	2300		0/99	10413/12713	18.09%		12077	68.74%
Oppy	627.51		123	1323		0/57	7511/8834	14.98%		4621	179.66%
Barben	229.15		287	3623		0/156	17924/21547	16.81%		16698	49.72%

NOTE: Barben is shorthand for the "Barbenheimer" phenomenon and is the combined totals of Barbie and Oppenheimer

 

Regal:     2351/6150  [38.23% sold]

[Porthos]

Five Nights At Freddy's Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report:

T-25 days and counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	0	52	6623	7262	639	8.80%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

639

 

Day 1:

	%		Sold Day 1	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final		Comp
BA	150.00		426	426		0/142	21387/21813	1.95%		4494	14.22%		11.25m
Wick4	132.85		481	481		0/82	11915/12396	3.88%		5448	11.73%		11.82m
AtSV	62.71		1019	1019		0/124	17505/18524	5.50%		9744	6.56%		10.88m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of FNAFs current tickets sold versus that final number.

 

Regal:     172/3078  [5.59% sold]
Matinee:    68/926  [7.34% | 10.64% of all tickets sold]

 

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Yeaaaaah, this is breaking out all right, even if it is frontloaded to one degree or another. Ended up smoking John Wick 4 when all was said and done.  Can't even really point to sales starting at 9pm local time last night, as that was "only" 62 tickets or so.

 

Didn't even bother with the Scream VI comp (17.1m, ftr).  All my other comps are either far too small, far too long of a pre-sale window, or far too big to be meaningful.  I suppose an interesting one is The Flash at 9.68m (639/640).  But everything else is lol for one reason or another.

 

Well, maybe so are those D1 comps above.  Find out soon enuf, I suppose.

 

(anyone wants to suggest possible comps, be my guest)

((before anyone suggests it:  GOTG3 D1: 5.91m [639/1892]))

Edited October 2, 2023 by Porthos
Stripped some legacy information from an older generic version of the comp bloc

[Porthos]

9 minutes ago, vale9001 said:

Why they did launch the sales in the middle of the night? 😅

 

It was timed to the ending of Beyoncé's final concert for this tour.  At the very very end of her performance, she aired a trailer for the movie and made the official announcement then.

[Hilts]

11 hours ago, Bob Train said:

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Still time to join my club  

 

Not quite there yet, want to give it a few days to see the extend of front-loading (or not) - I commend your bravery though!

 

10 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

 

Don't know about that, but I will agree that there is are obvious signs of fan rush, as well as probable group sales.

 

One thing that should be noted.  This has only 1 screen so far at most locations locally (one does have it at two).  So how many screens are added, if they're added, and how this does after the initial fan rush are very much open questions.

 

Other thing to note:  This is gonna have three-and-a-half weeks of pre-sales so it'll be interesting to see how this does during the bottom of the U-curve.

 

One last thing to note.  The holiday timing and subject matter is making late night showings a bit more appealing than perhaps normal.  Along with yet another 2pm preview start time should be factored in to whatever OW multiplier one wants to eyeball, as a lot of demand is gonna get burnt off on its previews.

 

I did see quite a few likely group sales in my initial count too and was quite surprised at the low amount of showtimes. Only way is up I guess, let's give it a few days to see the trend.

[Hilts]

Separately, interesting that Beyoncé | Renaissance looks like it will have Thursday previews (7pm start) so not following the TET format despite being labelled a "Special Event".

 

I don't want to compare yet but this will obviously benefit the former having a "full" weekend release.

 

I'll try to start a track later, may have to sacrifice some others as the schedule is getting a bit hectic!!

[Porthos]

4 minutes ago, Hilts said:

Separately, interesting that Beyoncé | Renaissance looks like it will have Thursday previews (7pm start) so not following the TET format despite being labelled a "Special Event".

 

I don't want to compare yet but this will obviously benefit the former having a "full" weekend release.

 

I'll try to start a track later, may have to sacrifice some others as the schedule is getting a bit hectic!!

 

One very good thing about 7pm start times?  Many fewer shows to track. 👍

[Issac Newton]

Doesn't Godzilla Minus One has PLF on December 1. So, Renaissance will release on Standard Shows? I'm confused now?

[Taylor89]

13 minutes ago, Hilts said:

Separately, interesting that Beyoncé | Renaissance looks like it will have Thursday previews (7pm start) so not following the TET format despite being labelled a "Special Event".

 

I don't want to compare yet but this will obviously benefit the former having a "full" weekend release.

 

I'll try to start a track later, may have to sacrifice some others as the schedule is getting a bit hectic!!

 

She didn't post any link in her social media so I don't think many know or the sale will big. 

[Taylor89]

35 minutes ago, vale9001 said:

Why they did launch the sales in the middle of the night? 😅

 

That's how she does promotions. Don't know if it turns out well for her this time tho. we'll see.

[Sparkle Jump Rope Queen]

37 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:

Doesn't Godzilla Minus One has PLF on December 1. So, Renaissance will release on Standard Shows? I'm confused now?

they're probably going to share 

[Outlander]

Beys tickets being much more expensive than Taylor's and kids and seniors having the same price as adults makes me think this will do insane numbers. 

Will it be only weekend showings like Eras? Or will it play during the weekdays too? If so then yeah shes going to make bank. Also it will most likely have better legs cuz of the December release. 

 

[imbruglia]

8 minutes ago, Outlander said:

Beys tickets being much more expensive than Taylor's and kids and seniors having the same price as adults makes me think this will do insane numbers. 

Will it be only weekend showings like Eras? Or will it play during the weekdays too? If so then yeah shes going to make bank. Also it will most likely have better legs cuz of the December release. 

 

it's weekend only too. and I doubt that there were many kids in her target audience so..

 

1 hour ago, Issac Newton said:

Doesn't Godzilla Minus One has PLF on December 1. So, Renaissance will release on Standard Shows? I'm confused now?

Renaissance has Imax and Dolby release too.

 

[vale9001]

 

27 minutes ago, Outlander said:

Beys tickets being much more expensive than Taylor's and kids and seniors having the same price as adults makes me think this will do insane numbers. 

Will it be only weekend showings like Eras? Or will it play during the weekdays too? If so then yeah shes going to make bank. Also it will most likely have better legs cuz of the December release. 

 

 

 

it's a mix of documentary + music videos + some concert extract. Will make numbers but the eras tour it's at another level of general appeal. As a taylor swift documentary would probably have made 1/3 of what her greatest hits career- celebration concert will make.

 

No special tickets for senior can be acceptable, imo no special tickets for kids it'a bad idea. If some parents can't make nothing but going with the children the idea of 28 dollars for an imax ticket for an 8 years kid could even stop them from going 😅

[Taylor89]

14 minutes ago, vale9001 said:

 

 

 

it's a mix of documentary + music videos + some concert extract. Will make numbers but the eras tour it's at another level of general appeal. As a taylor swift documentary would probably have made 1/3 of what her greatest hits career- celebration concert will make.

 

No special tickets for senior can be acceptable, imo no special tickets for kids it'a bad idea. If some parents can't make nothing but going with the children the idea of 28 dollars for an imax ticket for an 8 years kid could even stop them from going 😅

 

 

The tour isn't very kid friendly tbh.

[vale9001]

8 minutes ago, Taylor89 said:

 

 

The tour isn't very kid friendly tbh.

 

it's not a quentin tarantino movie too 😄. She sings, she dances and her shows are full of fireworks and fun entertaining things.

 

What I'm saying if you have an idea of going to the movies and you have to go with the kids cause sometimes you just have it the idea you have to spend another 45-60 dollars for 2 kids could make you choice another movie. Honestly seems a little bit to much to me. 

 

 

Edited October 2, 2023 by vale9001