The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[TomThomas]

3 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Just browsed Lincoln Sq where it has imax and it sold tons of seats for prime time show. That is faster than what Marvels did !!!

Real movies win.

[abracadabra1998]

23 hours ago, abracadabra1998 said:

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Previews:

 

The Marvels (T-4):

Day: T-4	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 18 theaters	123	145	1387	21847	6.35

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		991	74	71.45
MTC1:		740	74	53.35
Marcus:		160	16	11.54
Alamo:		102	17	7.35
Other chains:		385	38	27.76

 

Comps:

0.52x Oppenheimer: $5.42 Million

1.02x Mission Impossible 7 (switching to just Tuesday): $7.16 Million

1.15x Indiana Jones 5: $8.31 Million

0.84x FNAF: $8.67 Million

 

Average: $7.39 Million

 

Free fall continues, late to the party but Minneapolis will be down there in the 6 previews in no time

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

The Marvels (T-3):

Day: T-3	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 18 theaters	126	161	1548	22221	6.97

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		1077	86	69.57
MTC1:		820	80	52.97
Marcus:		191	31	12.34
Alamo:		111	9	7.17
Other chains:		426	41	27.52

 

Comps:

0.47x Oppenheimer: $4.94 Million

1.02x Mission Impossible 7 (Tuesday): $7.11 Million

1.07x Indiana Jones 5: $7.71 Million

0.79x FNAF: $8.13 Million

0.3x Barbie (Just Thursday): $6.42 Million

 

Average: $6.86 Million

 

Added Barbie, really late and maybe should have added it earlier, but it's the closest value to what seems to be the average of all the comps around here. Anyway, it dropped against every comp, including MI7 which was Friday into Saturday (every blockbuster I've comped it with increases at T-3 because of this, so that is baaaaad).

 

Journey to Bethlehem (T-3):

Day: T-3	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 16 theaters	43	9	47	4068	1.16

 

Comps:

0.25x After Death: $100k

0.59x Big Fat Greek Wedding 3: $323k

0.21x Asteroid City: $232k

 

Average: $218k

 

Seeing this one through to the end, sunk cost fallacy at this point it but oh well

[TheFlatLannister]

On 11/5/2023 at 6:04 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

Trolls: Band Together 

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-11

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
171	334	31233	1.1%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

21

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

1

 

COMPS

T-11

 

(0.635x) of Elemental $1.52M Previews

COMPS AVG: $1.52M

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

Trolls: Band Together 

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-10

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
173	351	31572	1.1%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

17

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

2

 

SELLOUTS

1

 

COMPS

T-10

 

(0.652x) of Elemental $1.57M Previews

(2.356x) of Ruby Gilman $1.70M Previews

COMPS AVG: $1.64M

[TheFlatLannister]

On 11/5/2023 at 6:08 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

WISH

 

Tuesday Previews 

 

T-16

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
162	625	29762	2.1%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

9

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-16

 

(1.430x) of Elemental $3.42M Previews *Not adjusted for ATP discount Tuesday* 

 

*Saturday EA* separate from previews 

176 seats sold over 10 showings 

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

WISH

 

Tuesday Previews 

 

T-15

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
174	627	31936	2.0%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

2

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

12

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-15

 

(1.409x) of Elemental $3.38M Previews *Not adjusted for ATP discount Tuesday* 

 

*Saturday EA* separate from previews 

181 seats sold over 10 showings 

[TheFlatLannister]

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

NAPOLEON

 

Tuesday Previews 

 

T-15 *First few hours

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
147	188	28317	0.66%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

N/A

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-15

 

(0.401x) of KoTFM $1.04M Previews *ATP not adjusted for discount Tuesday* 

Comps AVG: $1.04M

 

*MI7 comp because of discount Tuesday* 

(0.186x) of Mi7 $1.30M

 

Not seeing much signs of a breakout (not a bad start, but nothing noteworthy either) 

[TheFlatLannister]

On 11/5/2023 at 6:05 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

THANKSGIVING

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-11

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
123	130	20993	0.62%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

13

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-11

 

(0.252x) of Exorcist $718K Previews

(0.249x) of KoTFM $646K Previews

Comps AVG: $682k

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

THANKSGIVING

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-10

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
123	146	20993	0.69%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

16

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-10

 

(0.276x) of Exorcist $787K Previews

(0.271x) of KoTFM $706K Previews

Comps AVG: $746k

[TheFlatLannister]

On 11/5/2023 at 6:13 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

 Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

The Marvels 

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-4

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
275	2852	55831	5.0%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

83

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-4

 

(0.374x) of GOTG3 $6.54M Previews

Comps AVG: $6.54M

 

Still no sign of life at a critical T-4

*Flash comp is at $8.24M* 

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

The Marvels 

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-3

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
280	3040	56846	5.3%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

188

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

5

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-3

 

(0.376x) of GOTG3 $6.58M Previews

Comps AVG: $6.58M

 

*Flash comp is at $8.16M* 

 

It sold over 100 seats today which is a good thing (and gained a bit on the GOTG comp), but its also T-3 so nothing to really celebrate about 

[TheFlatLannister]

On 11/5/2023 at 6:06 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

GODZILLA MINUS ONE

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-25

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
33	99	6654	1.5%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

14

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-25

 

(0.286x) of Exorcist $815k Previews

Comps AVG: $815k

 

EA sales *separate from Thursdays previews listed above*

258 seats sold over 20 showings 

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

GODZILLA MINUS ONE

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-24

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
33	101	6654	1.5%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

2

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-24

 

(0.281x) of Exorcist $799k Previews

Comps AVG: $799k

 

EA sales *separate from Thursdays previews listed above*

288 seats sold over 20 showings 

[abracadabra1998]

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Napoleon (T-15, Day 1, taken around 6 PM CST):

Day: T-15	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 12 theaters	33	48	48	5088	0.94

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		23	23	47.92
MTC1:		31	31	64.58
Marcus:		14	14	29.17
Alamo:		0	0	0
Other chains:		3	3	6.25

 

Comps (Day 1):

1.26x The Creator: $2.02 Million

0.25x Hunger Games: Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes ?? 

 

Don't have Day 1 for KOFM unfortunately, and will probably wait until T-11 to let it catch up a bit before doing T-comps. Like @TheFlatLannister said, not great, not terrible. Wouldn't say it looks like a break-out but I don't think this would have huge Day 1 sales anyway.

[TheFlatLannister]

On 11/5/2023 at 6:10 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

THE HUNGER GAMES: THE BALLAD OF SONGBIRDS AND SNAKES

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-11

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
168	1278	32190	4.0%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

84

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-11

 

(0.857x) of Fast X $6.43M Previews

(0.482x) of FNAF $4.96M Previews

(0.507x) of The Flash $4.92M Previews

Comps AVG: $5.44M

 

Just another strong day

This just sold more tickets on T-11 than The Marvels on T-4 lol

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

THE HUNGER GAMES: THE BALLAD OF SONGBIRDS AND SNAKES

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-10

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
173	1391	33098	4.2%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

113

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

5

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-10

 

(0.868x) of Fast X $6.51M Previews

(0.517x) of FNAF $5.33M Previews

(0.533x) of The Flash $5.17M Previews

Comps AVG: $5.67M

 

This is an excellent pace. Heading comfortably to $6M+ previews if I had to guess 

[Inceptionzq]

On 11/4/2023 at 2:57 PM, Inceptionzq said:

The Marvels Denver Thursday

AMC Westminster 24

Total

293

3221

9.10%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

198

2542

7.79%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST 2 DAYS	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
1144	192	27065	4.23%	13	139

 

0.858	The Flash T-5	8.32M
0.332	Guardians 3 T-5	5.81M

0.583

Eternals T-5

5.54M

The Marvels Denver Thursday

AMC Westminster 24

Total

314

3221

9.75%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

244

2542

9.60%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST 2 DAYS	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
1339	195	27065	4.95%	13	139

 

0.866	The Flash T-3	8.40M
0.428	AtSV T-3	7.42M
0.329	Guardians 3 T-3	5.77M

0.595

Eternals T-3

5.65M

 

Numbers are from a few hours ago

[Inceptionzq]

On 11/4/2023 at 2:59 PM, Inceptionzq said:

The Marvels Alamo Drafthouse [+2 days of sales]

T-5 Thursday

197 Showings

4512

+374

28757

ATP:

17.11

1.080	The Flash T-5	10.47M
0.375	Guardians 3 T-5	6.56M
0.764	Eternals T-5	7.26M

 

T-6 Friday

234 Showings

4495

+623

36105

ATP:

16.76

1.608	The Flash T-6	23.79M
0.413	Guardians 3 T-6	12.63M
0.796	Eternals T-6	16.98M

 

T-7 Saturday

244 Showings

4089

+552

37535

ATP:

15.80

1.714	The Flash T-7	26.92M
0.336	Guardians 3 T-7	13.08M
0.727	Eternals T-7	17.54M

 

T-8 Sunday

227 Showings

1974

+282

35021

ATP:

15.58

1.618	The Flash T-8	25.08M
0.299	Guardians 3 T-8	9.40M
0.610	Eternals T-8	9.96M

The Marvels Alamo Drafthouse [+2 days of sales]

T-3 Thursday

213 Showings

5164

+652

29899

ATP:

17.01

1.003	The Flash T-3	9.73M
0.574	AtSV T-3	9.97M
0.377	Guardians 3 T-3	6.59M
0.792	Eternals T-3	7.52M

 

T-4 Friday

271 Showings

5555

+1060

38867

ATP:

16.74

1.553	The Flash T-4	22.99M
0.659	AtSV T-4	22.73M
0.415	Guardians 3 T-4	12.68M
0.862	Eternals T-4	18.39M

 

T-5 Saturday

281 Showings

4749

+660

40623

ATP:

15.78

1.530	The Flash T-5	24.02M
0.624	AtSV T-5	23.35M
0.318	Guardians 3 T-5	12.36M
0.739	Eternals T-5	17.82M

 

T-6 Sunday

260 Showings

2421

+447

37609

ATP:

15.56

1.357	The Flash T-6	21.03M
0.480	AtSV T-6	14.98M
0.276	Guardians 3 T-6	8.67M
0.617	Eternals T-6	10.07M

[keysersoze123]

I keep getting lot of pings on Renaissance. 

 

Renaissance MTC1 previews - 87008/317324 2199675.00 1586 shows// +3776 over past 16 days

 

Not sure how to extrapolate from this. its in low 20s% of Eras in gross while the shows are not so full as well compared to how crazy it was for Eras. 

Edited November 7, 2023 by keysersoze123

[Inceptionzq]

On 11/4/2023 at 3:00 PM, Inceptionzq said:

The Marvels Emagine Entertainment [+2 days of sales]

T-5 Thursday

157 Showings

1436

+123

25372

0.849

The Flash T-5

8.24M

 

T-6 Friday

243 Showings

1150

+235

39780

0.998

The Flash T-6

14.77M

 

T-7 Saturday

254 Showings

936

+187

40840

1.039

The Flash T-7

16.31M

 

T-8 Sunday

245 Showings

406

+50

39651

0.978

The Flash T-8

15.16M

The Marvels Emagine Entertainment [+2 days of sales]

T-3 Thursday

159 Showings

1653

+217

25399

0.794	The Flash T-3	7.70M
0.521	AtSV T-3	9.05M

 

T-4 Friday

247 Showings

1567

+417

40057

1.041	The Flash T-4	15.41M
0.453	AtSV T-4	15.62M

 

T-5 Saturday

258 Showings

1317

+381

41112

1.140	The Flash T-5	17.90M
0.676	AtSV T-5	25.27M

 

T-6 Sunday

249 Showings

544

+138

39921

0.896	The Flash T-6	13.89M
0.703	AtSV T-6	21.96M

[filmlover]

Napoleon will perform similar to House of Gucci I'm feeling.

[rehpyc]

The Marvels T-4

 

Quantumania: 3.58M

GoTG3: 4.57M

Shang-Chi: 5.91M

AtSV: 6.99M

Thor L&T: 4.44M

Eternals: 5.16M

Flash: 6.13M

Indy: 7.47M

 

General trajectory on this end has looked between 5-6M, but also thinking this MTC is coming in lower on share than typical, so would wager more into the 6-6.5M area.

[keysersoze123]

1 minute ago, rehpyc said:

The Marvels T-4

 

Quantumania: 3.58M

GoTG3: 4.57M

Shang-Chi: 5.91M

AtSV: 6.99M

Thor L&T: 4.44M

Eternals: 5.16M

Flash: 6.13M

Indy: 7.47M

 

General trajectory on this end has looked between 5-6M, but also thinking this MTC is coming in lower on share than typical, so would wager more into the 6-6.5M area.

Every MCU comp sucks. So far off Shang Chi is nuts. As of yesterday it went below Shang Chi even at MTC1. Shang Chi's final 3 days were robust while Marvels should go up in comps vs rest of MCU. 

[vafrow]

On 11/5/2023 at 7:46 PM, vafrow said:

 

Hunger Games Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, T-11, western GTA (southern Ontario)

 

Tickets sold: 132

New sales: 14

Growth: 11.9%

Theatres: 5 out of 5

Showtimes: 19

Chains tracked: MTC4, via manual count from chain app

 

COMPS

0.364x of Marvels for ??

 

Tickets per showtime analysis (tickets sold/showtimes= tickets per showtime)

Avg: 6.9

 

By timing:

Late Afternoon: 5/3= 1.7

Early Evening: 105/9=11.7

Late Evening: 22/7=3.1

 

By format:

Regular: 5/3=1.7

Dolby: 56/7=8.0

VIP: 35/3=11.7

IMAX: 31/4=7.8

4DX: 5/2=2.5

 

Growth dropped to low double digits. I'm hoping it's a function of just weekend pull, and that it can maintain high growth over the week.

 

 

Hunger Games Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, T-10, western GTA (southern Ontario)

 

Tickets sold: 148

New sales: 16

Growth: 12.1%

Theatres: 5 out of 5

Showtimes: 19

Chains tracked: MTC4, via manual count from chain app

 

COMPS

0.364x of Marvels for ??

 

Single theatre comps

0.545x T:ROTB for $4.8M

1.200x IJ:DoD for $8.6M

Avg: $6.7M

 

Tickets per showtime analysis (tickets sold/showtimes= tickets per showtime)

Avg: 7.8

 

By timing:

Late Afternoon: 2.3

Early Evening: 12.9

Late Evening: 3.6

 

By format:

Regular: 1.7

Dolby: 8.7

VIP: 15.0

IMAX: 8.0

4DX: 2.5

 

I threw in some local comps, but at low figures this low, best not to read too much into it. Growth rate of 12% is pretty good this far is pretty good. 

 

We'll get new showtimes starting tomorrow night. We'll see if there's an expansion of any significance. But, with next weekend being pretty crowded, it may not get much.

[Mojoguy]

I imagine Lionsgate is hoping for a great 2nd weekend hold for THG if the OW is lower. Many people are waiting for reactions before buying.

[emoviefan]

5 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:

I imagine Lionsgate is hoping for a great 2nd weekend hold for THG if the OW is lower. Many people are waiting for reactions before buying.

Reactions are out. The reviews come Tomorrow I think.