Official France Box Office Thread

[PKMLover]

Is France a leggy market for animated movie?

[Linkinitouille]

42 minutes ago, PKMLover said:

Is France a leggy market for animated movie?

Pretty much, most animated movies can do 4x their OWeek.

 

Top 10 Weekend November 20-24

https://www.boxofficepro.fr/box-office-week-end-la-reine-des-neiges-ii-se-hisse-au-sommet/

 

Rank	Title	Distributor	Admissions	Prints	Average	Total	Week
1	FROZEN II	DISNEY	1 979 782 (NEW)	666	2 973	1 979 782	1
2	LES MISÉRABLES	LE PACTE	461 128    (NEW)	490	941	461 128	1
3	JOYEUSE RETRAITE !	SND	375 889    (NEW)	465	808	375 889	1
4	J’ACCUSE (AN OFFICER AND A SPY)	GAUMONT	299 611    (-20%)	597	502	800 839	2
5	LE MANS 66 (FORD V. FERRARI)	FOX	234 838    (-27%)	378	621	637 871	2
6	LA BELLE ÉPOQUE	PATHÉ	154 720    (-35%)	692	224	1 022 076	3
7	HORS NORMES (THE SPECIALS)	GAUMONT	114 787    (-38%)	665	173	1 880 973	5
8	JOKER	WARNER	113 828    (-37%)	447	255	5 402 956	7
9	COUNTDOWN	METROPOLITAN	89 686      (-30%)	243	369	240 882	2
10	LES ÉBLOUIS	PYRAMIDE	62 738      (NEW)	146	430	62 738	1

 

An absolutely smashing start for Frozen II which is nearly 3 times bigger than the first the one. It will have shorter legs due to this start but 6M is definitely guaranteed, 8M is a new estimate. It will surely beat Endgame but won't beat TLK (which Disney France said it crossed 10M but it's doubted by the numbers).

 

The podium is completed by two french movies: Les Misérables (not based on the Victor Hugo novel but has ties to it), a suburbian police drama which will represent France at the next Oscars, did a very good opening nearing 1,000 admissions per print. Definitely tracking for 1.5M+. Joyeuse retraite, a french comedy about retirement, takes 3rd place and is in good position to reach 1M at the end of its career.

 

Positions 4 to 9 are all continuations, and thanks to low drops, both J'accuse and Le Mans 66 will reach 1M easily. La belle époque crossed it yesterday, Hors Normes will go over 2M at the beginning of next month, while Joker will try to reach 6M. Countdown also has a very decent drop for a horror movie. Les éblouis, a french drama, completes the top 10.

 

Note that we could have a record year as 6 movies could cross 6 million admissions in the same release year:

- Qu'est-ce qu'on a encore fait au bon dieu ? (Serial Bad Weddings 2) - 6.7M
- Avengers: Endgame - 6.8M
- The Lion King - 9.8M
- Joker - 6M

- Frozen 2 - 7M+
- Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - 7M+

[Aristis]

4 hours ago, Linkinitouille said:

It will surely beat Endgame but won't beat TLK (which Disney France said it crossed 10M but it's doubted by the numbers).

InsideKino tweeted that too and I looked at JP-BO were it's still at 9,75M admissions. So who should be trusted, Disney or all other sources?

[Parasite]

22 hours ago, Aristis said:

InsideKino tweeted that too and I looked at JP-BO were it's still at 9,75M admissions. So who should be trusted, Disney or all other sources?

Disney is known for inflating numbers in France (Black Panther last year, reported 9th by Disney was actually 11th). A big jump is expected for this kind of movies due to theaters (and special events) not reporting during summer, but +250k admissions seems doubtful...and the fact they waited just until the DVD/Blu Ray release to say it is not helping either.

 

We'll have to wait until CNC's yearly report to know. It's an official source, so it's the only ones 100% reliable.

[Poseidon]

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Edited November 27, 2019 by Poseidon

[PKMLover]

What is  ATP for Frozen 2 in France? 

[Aristis]

2 hours ago, PKMLover said:

What is  ATP for Frozen 2 in France? 

$14,29M (according to BOM), 1,98M, ATP ~7,2€

[RJ 95]

2.137m adm first week for F2, 158k adm for Mon-Tue.

 

With weekend avg tix :

$1.14m Mon-Tue

 

 

[Linkinitouille]

Opening Day - November 27 releases  

Knives Out comes out barely on top but is far ahead of its direct competition if we remove the admissions done in preview screenings (AP). However it's not really a great score either, it came out fourth of all movies yesterday behind last week's top 3 (Frozen II, Les Misérables, Joyeuse Retraite). Knives Out will surely get 500k overall and currently has good WOM but hitting a million will bear near impossible.

Edited November 28, 2019 by Linkinitouille

[Linkinitouille]

Top 10 Weekend November 27-December 1

 

Rank	Title	Distributor	Admissions	Prints	Average	Total	Week
1	FROZEN II	DISNEY	1 347 236 (-32%)	666	2 023	3 484 503	2
2	LES MISÉRABLES	LE PACTE	322 681    (-28%)	490	659	882 059	2
3	JOYEUSE RETRAITE !	SND	237 162    (-32%)	465	510	714 278	2
4	KNIVES OUT	METROPOLITAN	233 721    (NEW)	434	539	233 027	1
5	J'ACCUSE (AN OFFICER AND A SPY)	GAUMONT	208 301    (-30%)	686	304	1 094 863	3
6	LE MANS 66 (FORD V. FERRARI)	FOX/DISNEY	153 766    (-35%)	433	355	834 624	3
7	LAST CHRISTMAS	UNIVERSAL	113 721    (NEW)	301	378	113 721	1
8	GLORIA MUNDI	DIAPHANA	102 284    (NEW)	245	417	102 284	1
9	CHANSON DOUCE	STUDIOCANAL	89 922      (NEW)	282	319	89 922	4
10	LA BELLE ÉPOQUE	PATHÉ	85 543      (-45%)	765	112	1 149 968	1

 

Once again, Frozen II is the uncontested leader, adding 1.3M admissions over the five last days. Its total is now reaching 3.5M and the Christmas break didn't even start. The latest Disney animated feature is all-powerful on wednesdays, saturdays and sundays when children have next to no school. The top 3 stays the same, with Les Misérables keeping a great pace and Joyeuse Retraite which will both join the millionaire club.

 

The first newcomer is at #4: Knives Out. The latest "whodunit" film by Rian Johnson attracted some audience, even though the success is far from a Murder on the Orient Express. However, it has very good critics (4.1/5 viewer rating on Allociné, 7.3/10 on SensCritique) and it can limit its drops over the weeks.

 

Three other new releases are in the top 10: the american romcom Last Christmas, and two french dramas, Gloria Mundi and Chanson Douce, with scores around 100k admissions. Last Christmas can definitely benefit from the Christmas break as long as it can keep its 300 theaters. Note that a french comedy with famous actors, Toute ressemblance, failed to get into the top 10, with 69 625 admissions (351 prints). Another movie that'll join the long list of 2019 french comedy bombs.

[Aristis]

F1 vs F2:

 

WE	Frozen 1			Frozen 2
1st	776	---	954	1.980	---	1.980
2nd	656	-15%	1.697	1.347	-32%	3.485
3rd	619	-6%	2.434
4th	752	21%	3.471
5th	646	-14%	4.384
6th	151	-77%	4.565
7th	124	-18%	4.698
8th	95	-23%	4.802
			5,152M			6,000M

 

[LPLC]

Hi everyone, can frozen 2 compete with serial bad wedding 2 or Avengers endgame in France or 6M admissions is the most that it could reach ?

[Aristis]

1 hour ago, LPLC said:

Hi everyone, can frozen 2 compete with serial bad wedding 2 or Avengers endgame in France or 6M admissions is the most that it could reach ?

I'm not very good in predicting as I'm always lowballing to not overestimate. So if I say 6M you shouldn't consider that as being the high end

[Linkinitouille]

Frozen II in my opinion will reach 7M minimum and be #2 of the year, probably #3 depending on the success of Star Wars.

 

As the Christmas school break will start on December 20, and will run up to January 6, the movie should have great holds over the weeks.

Edited December 4, 2019 by Linkinitouille

[cdsacken]

Amazing to see an increase from the original because Frozen was so successful in France. Good job French peeps.

[ZeeSoh]

Better start for Jumanji 2 than the first 1

 

Très bon démarrage (en tête) pour #JumanjiNextLevel avec 103369 entrées pour son 1er Jour France dans 676 salles (dont 20338 en AVP). C’est mieux que le 1 avec AVP (102547 entrées en 2017) et beaucoup mieux que le 1 sans AVP (83031 vs 65541 entrées). cc @SonyPicturesFr @SPHEFR pic.twitter.com/CbhBUDQwuR

— Box Office France (@boxofficefr) December 5, 2019

Translation - Very good start (in mind) for #JumanjiNextLevel with 103369 entries for its 1st Day France in 676 rooms (including 20338 in AVP). It's better than the 1 with AVP (102547 entries in 2017) and much better than the 1 without AVP (83031 vs 65541 entries). cc @SonyPicturesFr @SPHEFR

[Linkinitouille]

Jumanji: The Next Level takes the lead, with a similar OD as Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle (but with less previews). The animated version of The Addams Family also gets a good score but it has 50% of previews in its OD. The french dramedy Le meilleur reste à venir does a lackluster score despite being screened in 600+ cinemas. Motherless Brooklyn has a slow start.

[Linkinitouille]

Top 10 Weekend December 4-10

 

Rank	Title	Distributor	Admissions	Prints	Average	Total	Week
1	FROZEN II	DISNEY	866 476    (-36%)	666	1 301	4 439 185	3
2	JUMANJI: THE NEXT LEVEL	SONY	713 189    (NEW)	676	1 025	713 189	1
3	THE ADDAMS FAMILY	UNIVERSAL	297 508    (NEW)	503	511	297 508	1
4	LE MEILLEUR RESTE À VENIR	PATHÉ	246 716    (NEW)	622	367	246 716	1
5	LES MISÉRABLES	LE PACTE	220 579    (-32%)	759	291	1 163 705	3
6	KNIVES OUT	METROPOLITAN	150 470    (-35%)	445	338	434 359	2
7	JOYEUSE RETRAITE !	SND	124 246    (-48%)	471	264	888 789	3
8	J'ACCUSE	GAUMONT	113 944    (-45%)	744	153	1 264 202	4
9	MOTHERLESS BROOKLYN	WARNER	94 094      (NEW)	210	444	94 094	1
10	LE MANS '66 (FORD V. FERRARI)	FOX/DISNEY	75 513      (-48%)	481	165	936 770	4

 

Despite a much stronger start than the 2017 sequelboot, Jumanji: The Next Level is not able to topple Frozen II from the top spot. The latest Disney classic keeps a lead of over 150k admissions. The Addams Family completes the podium with an average start, and will reach 1M admissions easily thanks to the Christmas holidays. Note that the first three movies benefitted from a stronger Thursday than usual due to massive strikes in schools, and many children didn't have any classes that day.

 

Le meilleur reste à venir however is the disappointment of the week, starting only at #4 with less than 250k admissions in over 600 cinemas in its first 5 days. It could miss the million if it doesn't hold good over the weeks. Motherless Brooklyn starts at #9 in a much smaller release, but gets the 4^th best average per cinema of the top 10.

[Aristis]

F2 vs F2:

 

WE	Frozen 1			Frozen 2
1st	776	---	954	1.980	---	1.980
2nd	656	-15%	1.697	1.347	-32%	3.485
3rd	619	-6%	2.434	866	-36%	4.439
4th	752	21%	3.471
5th	646	-14%	4.384
6th	151	-77%	4.565
7th	124	-18%	4.698
8th	95	-23%	4.802
			5,152M			7,000M

 

[LPLC]

With this big 3th week number for frozen 2, and with holidays and Christmas coming next week, can Frozen 2 surpass 7 million admissions and $55M in France ?