Captain Craig Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Variety's saying 75m now. That headline says 75m or more. The panic stricken just leave off those last two words. This is still just typical "we don't know anything this early Friday guess-timates that fluctuate every 2 hours". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Why was my under TDKR under THG thread closed?How is that bolder than the ASM under 200 m club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Variety's saying 75m now.Okay.... but I don't trust them very much.... will wait for another Nikki update or Rth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasanahmad Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 (edited) 75M...People that say that the shooting had no effect are in denial.and now people start trusting Variety. this is hilarious. Opportunistic trolling at its finest. Using a tragedy to bring false sense of sadness of disasterous box office numbers. Classy Edited July 21, 2012 by Hasan Ahmad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmac Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Gopher - You can give today's tragedy the solemnity it deserves and discuss the boxoffice effects. That's what these forums are for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Variety is never credible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryan Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Actually, there will be 2 factors on WOM:People, who saw the film previously the events of Colorado, had a better and comfortable expirience, butPeople, who saw the film TODAY and the ones who will do it in coming days, will probably get a bad taste from it because they could associate the unfortunate events of Colorado with the movie, which consequently will bring up in a bad experience, that means bad WOM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Why was my under TDKR under THG thread closed?How is that bolder than the ASM under 200 m club?When was yours made? I made a THG over TDKR thread way back in March that promptly got locked. I'll LMAO all the way to China if it actually ends up happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXtacy Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 There is every chance they are lowballing, like they usually do for big films. Could still hit 85M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 but the shooting happened today and is connected to the movie. So I don't see what is wrongI didn't mean it that way. Perhaps I misinterpreted myself. Of course it is connected to the movie. But we're going to start getting comments about "well it would have done xyz if it wasn't for the shootings," and no one should feel justified saying that. Just as no one should feel justified saying "Ledger's death helped TDK xyz much," because these events were so much more than that. I don't know. Maybe I'm just babbling. But it feels wrong to talk about box office today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jse Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 So 185-190 is the ceiling for this now? Wow my prediction was way out there in looney territory. So it's looking like TDKR's entire North American OW is going to be less than Avenger's US-only OW of 191.9M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nAlkaline Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I'm not talking about Australia, I very explicitly said I was waiting for it to happen in America.I'm not sure what exactly you've taken from my post or how, but that's not what I was saying at all. I'm not arguing for more theatre security, I'm pointing out that such a thing does not exist. And I'm sorry but you are wrong, there is one thing that can be done, and one conversation the US NEEDS to have, and that's a conversation about gun control.I apologize for the first misunderstanding. As to the second point, I will not argue this as the discussions tend to turn nasty quickly, but please do some research. Although I do not possess a gun or have any plans to do so, stricter gun control laws have been shown, at least in the United States, to only exacerbate the issue rather than help it. There are very similar parallels to drug control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPink Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Actually, there will be 2 factors on WOM:People, who saw the film previously the events of Colorado, had a better and comfortable expirience, butPeople, who saw the film TODAY and the ones who will do it in coming days, will probably get a bad taste from it because they could associate the unfortunate events of Colorado with the movie, which consequently will bring up in a bad experience, that means bad WOMEh I think that's a bit of a reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travod Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I didn't mean it that way. Perhaps I misinterpreted myself. Of course it is connected to the movie. But we're going to start getting comments about "well it would have done xyz if it wasn't for the shootings," and no one should feel justified saying that. Just as no one should feel justified saying "Ledger's death helped TDK xyz much," because these events were so much more than that.I don't know. Maybe I'm just babbling. But it feels wrong to talk about box office today.Then a box office forum isn't the best place to hang out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Maybe not, then, Travod. I think I'll need some time off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 So 185-190 is the ceiling for this now? Wow my prediction was way out there in looney territory. So it's looking like TDKR's entire North American OW is going to be less than Avenger's US-only OW of 191.9M.185-190 was always the ceiling IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacquelinejane Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I apologize for the first misunderstanding. As to the second point, I will not argue this as the discussions tend to turn nasty quickly, but please do some research. Although I do not possess a gun or have any plans to do so, stricter gun control laws have been shown, at least in the United States, to only exacerbate the issue rather than help it. There are very similar parallels to drug control. That is simply not true, and there is a huge correllation between the amount of violent crime America experiences and its (virtually non existant) gun control laws, but I will agree to disagree with you since I do not feel this is the right forum to have this discussion, or the right time all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 When was yours made? I made a THG over TDKR thread way back in March that promptly got locked. I'll LMAO all the way to China if it actually ends up happening.I just made it a few hours ago but it was closed for basically being "too bold".But I don't see why if Baumer's under 200 m club for ASM was allowed to stay open till the brutal end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Hoping it can still manage 180M......For that the Friday number will have to go up to at least 83-84M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I just made it a few hours ago but it was closed for basically being "too bold".But I don't see why if Baumer's under 200 m club for ASM was allowed to stay open till the brutal end.You are not allowed to make clubs after we get midnights numbers.And BTW there is still TDKR under DMC club I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...