bangbingchan Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 18 hours ago, Mojoguy said: That IMAX TLJ deal was a mistake, no way SW9 is getting that deal again with IMAX in China. even with that deal,IMAX theater is showing other films now.Youth,damon cat both have more IMAX showtimes this week.poor theater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 On 1/21/2018 at 7:44 PM, FantasticBeasts said: @Proxima Olive @POTUS @Anybody else that I forget Any prediction on Maze Runner? PS at just 2m. $15-20m OW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium George Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Maoyan presells takes little bit fun out of box office prediction. What you'll think will be the highest grossing hollywood and local movies this year in china? Hollywood- JW: FK- $240m IW- $230m Rampage- $180m MI VI- $160m I2- $150m Ant Man 2- $120m Local movies- Monkey king 3, IDK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP1025 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Biggest local movie should be Monster Hunt 2. Biggest Hollywood I'm leaning towards IW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 1 hour ago, damnitgeorge08 said: Local movies- Monkey king 3, IDK. What? It may not even be in the top 2 spots for Lunar New Year. make a better guess like Monster Hunt 2 or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium George Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 32 minutes ago, TigerPaw said: What? It may not even be in the top 2 spots for Lunar New Year. make a better guess like Monster Hunt 2 or something. I didn't guess, I just typed it. Guessing among local movies should be done from you chinese experts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 Peter Rabbit --- Mar 2nd Black Panther --- Mar 9th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolK Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Rank Title Gross(M) Cume Gross(M) Per Screen Avg. Per Ticket Avg. Showings Admissions Days 1 Secret Superstar $4.97 $32.27 $220.70 $4.64 63036 1069470 4 2 Forever Young $4.07 $72.44 $202.49 $4.91 52230 828318 11 3 Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle $1.17 $67.65 $125.06 $5.47 19115 214203 11 4 Wonder $1.13 $9.71 $94.13 $4.70 28526 241502 4 5 The Ex-File: The Return of the Exes $0.98 $294.31 $99.36 $5.50 17256 177399 25 6 Ferdinand $0.94 $10.33 $83.79 $5.07 23824 184703 4 7 A Better Tomorrow 2018 $0.52 $8.43 $51.19 $5.15 19600 100982 5 8 Guardians of the Tomb $0.43 $6.58 $36.41 $5.16 22007 82813 4 9 Plastic Surgeon·Hunted Face $0.11 $2.02 $1611.05 $6.41 151 17588 613 10 The Door Of Happiness $0.11 $2.61 $1214.21 $6.32 162 17680 1119 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 3 hours ago, damnitgeorge08 said: Maoyan presells takes little bit fun out of box office prediction. What you'll think will be the highest grossing hollywood and local movies this year in china? Hollywood- JW: FK- $240m IW- $230m Rampage- $180m MI VI- $160m I2- $150m Ant Man 2- $120m Local movies- Monkey king 3, IDK. CBO is hard to predict. But if MI6 is just 'another' MI5, I doubt it might even decrease from MI5's $135m. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 So The Last Jedi isn't even in the Top 10 anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 8 hours ago, KP1025 said: Biggest local movie should be Monster Hunt 2. Biggest Hollywood I'm leaning towards IW. I will not dare to say anything about local films because then it comes a Wolf Warrior 2 and destroys every logical prediction. Concerning Hollywood films, I would bet on Jurassic World 2. SH films seem to have a limit in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP1025 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, peludo said: I will not dare to say anything about local films because then it comes a Wolf Warrior 2 and destroys every logical prediction. Concerning Hollywood films, I would bet on Jurassic World 2. SH films seem to have a limit in China. I think firedeep mentioned Avengers films are seen as event films and not subject to the usual SH ceiling (around $100 million). Last time in 2015, it was a very close race between AoU and JW in China. It's a bit hard to gauge hype because Marvel has many fanboys/girls whereas the JW franchise relies more on GA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meriodejaneiro Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, peludo said: I will not dare to say anything about local films because then it comes a Wolf Warrior 2 and destroys every logical prediction. Concerning Hollywood films, I would bet on Jurassic World 2. SH films seem to have a limit in China. Avengers Age of Ultron managed a $240M run in China... which is out of the standard 100ish for a sh movie there, but IW is an Avemgers 3. Avengers 1 made 89M, Avengers 2 made 240, Avengers 2.5 CW made 180... Would be interesting to know how many views IW trailer had in Chinese video-sites (I ignore if censorship allows YouTube there or not) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, KP1025 said: I think firedeep mentioned Avengers films are seen as event films and not subject to the usual SH ceiling (around $100 million). Last time in 2015, it was a very close race between AoU and JW in China. It's a bit hard to gauge hype because Marvel has many fanboys/girls whereas the JW franchise relies more on GA. 2 hours ago, meriodejaneiro said: Avengers Age of Ultron managed a $240M run in China... which is out of the standard 100ish for a sh movie there, but IW is an Avemgers 3. Avengers 1 made 89M, Avengers 2 made 240, Avengers 2.5 CW made 180... Would be interesting to know how many views IW trailer had in Chinese video-sites (I ignore if censorship allows YouTube there or not) I am not saying that IW will make the standard $100m for SH genre. I know that Avengers is in its own league being part of SH genre. SH films use to make 600-800 range. Avengers films (Ultron and Civil War) doubled that range. But the WoM of that film was not as good as JW. I do not think it will increase significantly relative to Ultron. Maybe 1.5b-1.6b if it is good enough (let's remember that Guardians of the Galaxy 2 was not able to increase significantly in China in spite of being a sequel of a beloved film). I can see JW2 going higher than that. WOM of JW was way better than Ultron's or Civil War: Ultron OD 186m (x7.85) - Total 1.46b JW OD 101m (x14.06) - Total 1.42b Civil War OD: 180m (x6.94) - Total 1.25b JW was able to outgross Civil War and did nearly the same amount than Ultron. And let's say that both Ultron and Civil War are sequels of already well known characters. Jurassic World, being part of a franchise, was the first one with new characters. IMHO, JW2 is favorite to win. Edited January 23, 2018 by peludo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedtotalkaboutKevin Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 6 hours ago, CoolK said: Rank Title Gross(M) Cume Gross(M) Per Screen Avg. Per Ticket Avg. Showings Admissions Days 1 Secret Superstar $4.97 $32.27 $220.70 $4.64 63036 1069470 4 2 Forever Young $4.07 $72.44 $202.49 $4.91 52230 828318 11 3 Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle $1.17 $67.65 $125.06 $5.47 19115 214203 11 4 Wonder $1.13 $9.71 $94.13 $4.70 28526 241502 4 5 The Ex-File: The Return of the Exes $0.98 $294.31 $99.36 $5.50 17256 177399 25 6 Ferdinand $0.94 $10.33 $83.79 $5.07 23824 184703 4 7 A Better Tomorrow 2018 $0.52 $8.43 $51.19 $5.15 19600 100982 5 8 Guardians of the Tomb $0.43 $6.58 $36.41 $5.16 22007 82813 4 9 Plastic Surgeon·Hunted Face $0.11 $2.02 $1611.05 $6.41 151 17588 613 10 The Door Of Happiness $0.11 $2.61 $1214.21 $6.32 162 17680 1119 Where am I ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 40 minutes ago, WeneedtotalkaboutKevin said: Where am I ? Hey Kevin, 'you' should work hard to get Tomb Raider and Rampage day and date releases in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Just a question from an ignorant: Some of you were saying during the weekend that Ferdinand could make a leggy run. I see that Ferdinand (and Wonder too) have great Maoyan score (both over 9), so that would be the reason to think about it. But, do you still think that these films can explode? I get that, for example, Ferdinand is an animated film and it should have better results during weekends, but even cosidering that factor the Mon-Tue results do not seem so promising in my eyes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meriodejaneiro Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 3 hours ago, peludo said: I am not saying that IW will make the standard $100m for SH genre. I know that Avengers is in its own league being part of SH genre. SH films use to make 600-800 range. Avengers films (Ultron and Civil War) doubled that range. But the WoM of that film was not as good as JW. I do not think it will increase significantly relative to Ultron. Maybe 1.5b-1.6b if it is good enough (let's remember that Guardians of the Galaxy 2 was not able to increase significantly in China in spite of being a sequel of a beloved film). I can see JW2 going higher than that. WOM of JW was way better than Ultron's or Civil War: Ultron OD 186m (x7.85) - Total 1.46b JW OD 101m (x14.06) - Total 1.42b Civil War OD: 180m (x6.94) - Total 1.25b JW was able to outgross Civil War and did nearly the same amount than Ultron. And let's say that both Ultron and Civil War are sequels of already well known characters. Jurassic World, being part of a franchise, was the first one with new characters. IMHO, JW2 is favorite to win. Same can go for JW2, and not increase even coming from a previous beloved installment. I think it's gonna be a tied-up battle between IW and JW2, win by the former. I see IW making $300M and JW2 falling a bit short. But of course, as always in China's box office, it will depend on local movies counter program and reception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, meriodejaneiro said: Same can go for JW2, and not increase even coming from a previous beloved installment. I think it's gonna be a tied-up battle between IW and JW2, win by the former. I see IW making $300M and JW2 falling a bit short. But of course, as always in China's box office, it will depend on local movies counter program and reception. The difference I see is that GOTG is a SH film and JW is not. I have not seen any indicator that SH films can suddenly explode and go to the +2b level. Every film of the genre have done systematically the same amounts in the last 3 years, independently of the quality, the brand or the characters involved. On the other side, the genre of monsters seems to be more favorable in CBO. A way less anticipated film in a similar genre like Kong did nearly the same than Civil War last year. I can be wrong because, as you say, the CBO is unpredictable, but I see more advantages for Jurassic World than for Avengers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Ferd held flat today, if it can hold 6m thru Thursday it'll bump a little this weekend WoW. Should do at least 400m/$60m+. $100m will be out of reach unless it bumps at least 50%+ this weekend 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...