Monday Numbers | The Hobbit - 6.95M | Django Unchained - 5.2M

[Goffe]

His only miss, Abyss in 1989

what about Piranha 2?

[dashrendar44]

what about Piranha 2?

Well. BOM has no gross numbers reported like it never had a BO run so to speak.

[TLK]

Not going to get into a debate but Spielberg is a more influential director than Cameron even though Cameron is killing it at the Box Office these past 15 years. Movies like ET, Jaws, Jurassic Park and Indiana Jones changed filmmaking. Movies like Saving Private Ryan, Schindlers' List and now Lincoln have proven Spielberg's mettle as a serious filmmaker. Cameron has made a lot of money for himself and for his studios but his influence begins and ends with the Terminator movies. Jury is still out on Avatar as 3D has been treading water for the last couple of years.

[dashrendar44]

You forgot a little historic melodrama called Titanic...

Edited January 2, 2013 by dashrendar44

[Goffe]

Box Office wise: Cameron is doing better recentlyQuality wise: It's all about personal taste, Do you prefer Cameron only 8 movies (Avatar, Titanic, True Lies, Terminator, Terminator 2, The Abyss, Aliens, Piranha) or Spielberg 8 best movies according to RT (Jaws, Indiana Jones1, E.T., Schindler's List, Close Encounters, Saving Private Ryan, Lincoln, Minority Report)?

[dashrendar44]

Remember I'm talking about blockbusters (I really loved Munich for instance). Which Spielberg's blockbusters have really been impressive on every levels and universally acclaimed since Jurassic Park?WOTW? Minority Report?None reached Titanic or Avatar's level of success, not even Jurassic Park's success.

Edited January 2, 2013 by dashrendar44

[TLK]

You forgot a little historic melodrama called Titanic...

I don't consider it an influential movie. It was just a one-off phenomena.

[Goffe]

only 130 million less, same amount of movies

Edited January 2, 2013 by Goffe of Oz

[dashrendar44]

I don't consider it an influential movie. It was just a one-off phenomena.

I responded Titanic related to your "mettle as a serious filmmaker" point not "influential". (Cameron was not considered a "serious" filmmaker before Titanic).

[druv10]

Seriously this discussion is going nowhere. They're great and are all-time directors so lets leave it at that.

[Moviedweeb]

Not going to get into a debate but Spielberg is a more influential director than Cameron even though Cameron is killing it at the Box Office these past 15 years. Movies like ET, Jaws, Jurassic Park and Indiana Jones changed filmmaking. Movies like Saving Private Ryan, Schindlers' List and now Lincoln have proven Spielberg's mettle as a serious filmmaker. Cameron has made a lot of money for himself and for his studios but his influence begins and ends with the Terminator movies. Jury is still out on Avatar as 3D has been treading water for the last couple of years.

Avatar is hugely influential. The motion capture technology alone paved the way for ROTPOTA.

[#ED]

How about those Monday numbers eh?

[Robertron]

How about those Monday numbers eh?

I wouldn't even bother.

[kowhite]

So is this considered good for the HOBBIT with the number it has achieved thus far or a disappointment compared to the LOTR movies???

Well, it's certainly a disappointment compared to LOTR, it's more a question of how much of a disappointment.

[narniadis]

Back from Django - our showing was sold out in a 300 seater and the theater was much busier than last weeks holidays....Django was awesome.... better than LeMis but not quite up to Lincoln as far as oscar contenders go

[Deep Wang]

only 130 million less, same amount of movies

Cameron has not made 9 features. That 9 includes a couple of his documentaries.

[Fake]

Anything for Tuesday?

[Fullbuster]

Not going to get into a debate but Spielberg is a more influential director than Cameron even though Cameron is killing it at the Box Office these past 15 years. Movies like ET, Jaws, Jurassic Park and Indiana Jones changed filmmaking. Movies like Saving Private Ryan, Schindlers' List and now Lincoln have proven Spielberg's mettle as a serious filmmaker. Cameron has made a lot of money for himself and for his studios but his influence begins and ends with the Terminator movies. Jury is still out on Avatar as 3D has been treading water for the last couple of years.

Agree, Spielberg is a titan, Cameron is just a giant, he needs to grow again to compete wth God Spielberg!

[Goffe]

I'm not saying that Michel Bay is better filmmaker than James Cameron, but If you taken Avatar and Titanic grosses from his filmography would left only 550 million and If you take away the two biggest grosses (TF2, TF3) from Bay's filmography would left more than 1 billion. I'm saying that cameron had luck with Titanic and Avatar, even with adjusted talk Bay is 300 million ahead of cameron (Cameron without Avatar, Titanic and Bay without TF2, TF)

Edited January 2, 2013 by Goffe of Oz

[DoctorWho]

Today a DVDScr version of Hobbit flodded the internet. It's bassicaly almost DVDRiP quality.