GiantCALBears Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Ew are good liars for the show, you can tell Jon isn't really dead in their recap despite them saying the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shorts Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 lmao! i just rewatched that part, and that screenshot is a total grasp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cozmeesah Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Yeah, I laughed. Posted it all the same, as I'm sure someone else would see it and post it. Preemptive post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedarpoint1111 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 So besides everything you guys just said... Where the fuck was ghost now? He saves Sam but not mother fucking Jon??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxOfficeZ Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 The book does make it sound like he really is dead. He took like a dozen daggers or something from everyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Freak Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Didn't realize the Boltons had all those men. Even with Stanis at full strength, it looked like they would have been evenly matched. Dat Frey support. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cozmeesah Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 I assume they shut him in somewhere or he was off hunting. He wasn't there in the book either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cozmeesah Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 The book does make it sound like he really is dead. He took like a dozen daggers or something from everyone. He takes 4 in the book. And all it says is he doesn't feel the 4th, just the cold of the snow. Then the chapter ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 What a waste of 5 seasons. Ugh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedarpoint1111 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Fuck I'm so annoyed.... Oh and I'm so glad cersei is out now. Even though she deserved the torture, I really hope she kills all those assholes who captured her. I mean honestly, who the fuck are they to hold my girl Margery. And lol @ them thinking she'll go back for a trial. She was plotting her revenge during the whole confession lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantCALBears Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 What a waste of 5 seasons. Ugh. The endgame has been set up since scene one, you knew what you were getting yourself into. WHITE WALKERS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyxx Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 If Jon Snow is really dead then fuck this show and fuck GRRM. But everyone is saying he is still alive so I'll hold out til next season, maybe Dany's story will finally go somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmasterclay Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 ^Yea this is what I'm talking about might want to find a way to make it clear Jon's not dead guys. It's funny: the Red Wedding accelerated the show into the stratosphere because of how balls to the all insane it was, but FTW could derail it. That and the rape scene might be just enough to turn enough people off that it hurts the show and cuts down the budget. Dear lord, I hope not- I'm one of the few book readers who really enjoyed this season and will defend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedarpoint1111 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 What are you talking about. The ratings are the highest they've ever been. This is the flagship show of HBO. If anything they will keep increasing the budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmasterclay Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) Oh, I know that for sure. I've made that same exact argument to Sun's Son and other pessimists like 20 times in the past two weeks. But Jon's death is significant because to casual viewers he was THE protagonist of this series and it symbolizes something so bleak that if something good doesn't come soon people will turn away. Maybe I'm overreacting a bit, but the Unsullied on my Twitter and Facebook feed have gone cuckoo for motherfuckin Cocoa Puffs. They're swearing the show off unless he comes back. Also a possibility that I'm up past my bedtime and my mind is failing me. The night is dark and full of terrors etc. Edited June 15, 2015 by cmasterclay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK007 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 I wasn't as shocked by the Jon Snow death because some toolbag on some website said something about it beforehand but could almost have been trolling so I ignored it right until the final moment where they were gathered in a huddle. TRAP. But the effect was not there. So, for me, I can't believe Stannis died. Wtf. I mean, yeah, I know he became a major toolbag, but what on Earth was the whole point of his storyline? Melisandre was the driving force behind everything and she just bailed...because? If she's a conwoman, how did everything else happen before? It's a shitty plotline. The other reason is that I hate the Boltons and, fine, the Starks miscalculated and were killed, but Stannis should have killed them off. Why the Boltons have any support at all is beyond me, but they had more men than Stannis, who even likes them? I know half his men left, but the Boltons are a joke. I hope they are killed off quickly because their "rule" is a farce. All the Kings are dead and two clowns in the North still retain power? It reeks off unbelievability even on a show like this. Too bad about that sadistic nymphomaniac. She was hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 What happened? Why are people so shocked? Is it because of the death of Snow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Jon snow is not dead or else Martin in a scumbag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 If you read the books... my cousin was in shock. But Cersei... Fuck, I hope she obliterates those fukin scumbags. Also, even if Jon dies by some miracle, theres Dany, who has just as many fans. So no worries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) The other reason is that I hate the Boltons and, fine, the Starks miscalculated and were killed, but Stannis should have killed them off. Why the Boltons have any support at all is beyond me, but they had more men than Stannis, who even likes them? I know half his men left, but the Boltons are a joke. I hope they are killed off quickly because their "rule" is a farce. All the Kings are dead and two clowns in the North still retain power? It reeks off unbelievability even on a show like this. In the fifth book an entire subplot builds about the dissatisfaction of the Northern Lords with the Boltons and we learn that one of the most powerful of them is leader of a huge conspiracy to overthrow them at the right moment (this subplot is home to the 2nd best moment of the entire book and turns a character other characters thought was a fat buffoon into one of the biggest badasses out there). And the subplot ties into Rickon's location. Obviously none of that shows up in the show. As for Jon, if Kit Harrington cuts his hair, shaves his beard, and films other material this fall/winter, then I might be convinced he may not be coming back. Edited June 15, 2015 by Numbers of Westeros 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...