babz06 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 $11m is good for Cloudy, I imagine it'll have a good bump on Saturday. Nikki's predicting a $44m weekend which would mean it takes HT's record for highest September opening. Sony has secured that slot for the next four years with Equalizer in 2014, Hotel Transylvania 2 in 2015 and two untitled animated films in 2016 and 2017. That is some very smart scheduling on Sony's part. Equalizer will easily have 20+ M OW with Denzel's track record. Hotel Transylvania can easily make 40+ OW maybe even break the 50M record in 2015. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 FRIDAY 10:30 PM UPDATE: A total 4 major releases hit the box office today (Ron Howard’s Rush expanded) giving something for everyone to see at the domestic box office. Total moviegoing looks around $110M, which is even with last year. For now here’s the Top Ten list with refined numbers and full analysis coming later: 1. Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs 2 3D (Sony) NEW [Runs 4,001] PGFriday $10.0M, Weekend $38.0M 2. Rush (Imagine/Universal) Week 2 [Runs 2,297] RFriday $3.8M, Weekend $11.3M, Cume $11.6M 3. Prisoners (Alcon/Warner Bros) Week 2 [Runs 3,290] RFriday $3.3M (-57%), Weekend $10.6M, Cume $38.4M 4. Baggage Claim (Fox Searchlight) NEW [Runs 2,027] PG13Friday $3.2M, Weekend $9.1M 4. Don Jon (Relativity) NEW [Runs 2,422] RFriday $3.1M, Weekend $8.5M 6. Insidious: Chapter 2 (FilmDistrict) Week 3 [Runs 3,120] PG13Friday $1.9M, Weekend $5.8M, Cume $68.7M 7. The Family (Relativity) Week 3 [Runs 2,894] RFriday $1.1M, Weekend $3.6M, Cume $31.6M 8. We’re The Millers (New Line/Warner Bros) Week 8 [Runs 2,405] RFriday $895K, Weekend $2.9M, Cume $142.5M 9. Instructions Not Included (Lionsgate) Week 5 [Runs 948] PG13Friday $749K, Weekend $2.8M, Cume $38.1M 10. Lee Daniels’ The Butler (Weinstein) Week 7 [Runs 2,062] PG13Friday $697K, Weekend $2.4M, Cume $110.4M 14. Metallica Through The Never 3D (PIcturehouse) NEW [Runs 308] RFriday $625K, Weekend $1.5M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceroll Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Dang, pretty poor for Cloudy and big drop for Prisoners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Prisoners, Rush and Don Jon should make slightly more than those estimates. Cloudy even with a big Saturday increase likely won't hit 40m. Edited September 28, 2013 by Robert Stack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLK Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Don Jon 's opening is the reason why distributors shy away from wide release format for off-beat movies. Relativity bought it for only $4 million but the minimum P&A budget for a 2400 theater release is probably around $25 million so it needs to make $50 million to break even and it won't even come close to that number in theatrical release. I think it will ultimately make some money after VOD etc. but the movie distribution economics is so fucked up when a movie that cost around $5 million to produce can't break even until it has made $50 million at the box office. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Don Jon 's opening is the reason why distributors shy away from wide release format for off-beat movies. Relativity bought it for only $4 million but the minimum P&A budget for a 2400 theater release is probably around $25 million so it needs to make $50 million to break even and it won't even come close to that number in theatrical release. I think it will ultimately make some money after VOD etc. but the movie distribution economics is so fucked up when a movie that cost around $5 million to produce can't break even until it has made $50 million at the box office. Don Jon had a shit load of marketing. Ads were everywhere. Hopefully people now will stop saying JGL is a draw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 actually I noticed Hotel Transylvania made 40m from a 10m Friday so maybe it is still possible for Cloudy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Don Jon had a shit load of marketing. Ads were everywhere. Hopefully people now will stop saying JGL is a draw! Who says that? I like the guy and I think that's a ridiculous statement 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Dang, pretty poor for Cloudy and big drop for Prisoners. Were you expecting Descipable Me 2 numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood26 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) - Edited January 16, 2019 by Jay Hollywood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Don Jon 's opening is the reason why distributors shy away from wide release format for off-beat movies. Relativity bought it for only $4 million but the minimum P&A budget for a 2400 theater release is probably around $25 million so it needs to make $50 million to break even and it won't even come close to that number in theatrical release. I think it will ultimately make some money after VOD etc. but the movie distribution economics is so fucked up when a movie that cost around $5 million to produce can't break even until it has made $50 million at the box office. Right. Many people trend to ignore P&A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Don Jon 's opening is the reason why distributors shy away from wide release format for off-beat movies. Relativity bought it for only $4 million but the minimum P&A budget for a 2400 theater release is probably around $25 million so it needs to make $50 million to break even and it won't even come close to that number in theatrical release. I think it will ultimately make some money after VOD etc. but the movie distribution economics is so fucked up when a movie that cost around $5 million to produce can't break even until it has made $50 million at the box office. That doesn't seem right. 4 x2=8 + 25=33m. I thought double the production budget plus p&a was the formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLK Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 ^^^ The formula is double the production budget for mid to big budget studio movies. Say , if a $60 million movie makes $120 million worldwide then it will probably break even after every revenue stream (VOD, home media, TV rights) is accounted for. That formula doesn't work for small budget wide release movies because the P&A budget is so much more than the production budget. Also in the case of small budget movies multiple distributors are involved. Relativity only bought the US rights so they won't see a dime of the money the movie makes elsewhere. The movie is already a success for the producers. Not so much for the distributor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) I doubt they spent 25 m to market Don Jon.Not every wide release has a 20+ m marketing budget.The studio knew it wasn't going to open big which is why they paid only 4 m for it and dumped it in October. Edited September 28, 2013 by grey ghost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Is September still on track to be the biggest on record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Well fuck. Cloudy will reach 40M but I am not sure about the record. Adam Sandler does matter when it comes to family stuff. Sony must have high hopes for Hotel Transylvania 2. Prisoners dropping way more than I was expecting. Rush and Baggage Claim ok. Don Jon is another flop for JGL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Don Jon is a movie about a guy addicted to porn. Kind of a niche audience. A 9 mill opening seems quite decent imo. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 How is a Rated R movie about porn addiction a flop when it opens to 9 mill. Come on cjohn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJackSparrow Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I have never heard of Don Jon....and Aww for Cloudy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJackSparrow Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 What should be the range for Cloudy 2 DOM final gross? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
