baumer Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 (edited) This was a great thread at Mojo, one of the threads I rally regret not having access to.Fellow box office loonies, please help me and others understand what it means in terms of American dollars, for a films gross in international markets. For example, jajang and some of the other Aussie posters helped ascertain that for every one dollar a film grosses in Australia, it would be equivalent to about ten dollars in NA. So for a film to make 30 mill in Australia, it would be like a film making 300 million in NA. The same can be said for Canada. The UK was something $6.00 to $1.00 and so on. Can anyone help with this? It's a great tool to see how films are really doing in other markets.I'm going to try and update this as best I can:Australia: 10:1China: 4.5:1New Zealand: 60:1Russia: 9:1Brazil: 13:1Germany: 9:1Italy: 11:1Japan: 5:1Mexico: 14:1South Korea: 10:1Spain: 12.5:1UK: 6:1Sweden: 35-40:1 Edited September 2, 2012 by Expendable baumer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travod Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Wow this would be great to have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 We had a huge thread for this at Mojo and it was fairly accurate. I don't think it will be that tough to get it going again, we just need some help from a few of the posters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Fake and Luna (Inny Binny) would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 China was 6 to 1 when Avatar came out. Now I think it is around 4.5-5 to 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ-8 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 On average it's 10 to 1 in Australia. Different genres do perform differently here though. Comic book films tend to perform worse here. Say 8 to 1. While fantasy films perform better normally. Potter for example made 52m here or equivalent of 520m US and dark knight made 46m or around 460m equivalent. I still love the James Cameron comparisons. Titanic - 57m AU (570m equiv US) vs 600m USAND now....Avatar - 115m AU (1.15B lol) vs 750m Something tells me we like blue (unless it's part of a comic book)Always helps if there is an Australian actor in the film. + if the film is Australian......Australia - 37m (370m equiv !!!!!!) - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 Let's not get too precise Jajang. LOL....the 10 to 1 thing is a good forumla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder / Operator Shawn Posted December 1, 2011 Founder / Operator Share Posted December 1, 2011 Gonna move this to International board, but also pin it there for easy access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spizzer Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 This is great. Sucks that Inny Binny's International Admissions thread is gone though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ-8 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Speaking of inny. Haven't seen a NZ thread yet is he joining? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 I'll try to use the same formula Inny did, but it will take me some time to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Speaking of inny. Haven't seen a NZ thread yet is he joining?Luna is Inny Binny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) A good number in Spain is 6 million euros. With the today's dollar-euro exchange ratio (1.34), that's equivalent to 8 million dollar. I think the mark of 6 million euros (8 million dollar) in Spain is equivalent to 100 million in US. For instance, in 2010, in US there were 30 movies with 100 million dollar or more and in Spain there were 29 movies with 8 million dollar or more. In 2009, 32 in US and 30 in Spain with the same limits. In 2008, 29 in US and 33 in Spain. They are very similar numbers of movies.Of course there are exceptions. Avatar grossed 78 million euros in Spain (110 million dollar). That would be equivalent to 1.3 billion in US. But in general it's very accurate. The next one in the ranking is Titanic with 38 million euros (44 million dollar with the 1998 dollar-peseta ratio). That would be 630 million dollar in US (very similar to second highest movie in US that is Titanic too). And ROTK, with nearly 33 million euros (39 million dollar with the 2003 dollar-euro ratio), would be equivalent to 545 million dollar in US (very similar to the third movie gross, The Dark Knight, which grossed 533) Edited December 5, 2011 by peludo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totem Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 In some cases throughout the year when Australia gets a release one week before the US we can get a pretty accurate picture of where a film will fall.Narnia and Thor were big ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceroll Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 In some cases throughout the year when Australia gets a release one week before the US we can get a pretty accurate picture of where a film will fall.Narnia and Thor were big ones.Breaking Dawn wasn't though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertron Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Russia needs to be updated on a weekly basis for this thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totem Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Breaking Dawn wasn't thoughWell it decreased in Aus as it did in US while many markets increased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 I'm not sure if I'm getting this right,But Charles Gant, box office reporter in the UK for the Guardian newspaper, he expects films to gross 10% of what they made in America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchumacherFTW Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I'm not sure if I'm getting this right,But Charles Gant, box office reporter in the UK for the Guardian newspaper, he expects films to gross 10% of what they made in America. his belief is divide the american number by 10, and change the symbol from $ to £ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Gittes Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) When it comes to opening weekends, it's around 7.5:1 in Russia. The 2nd and 3rd biggest OWs are OST and SFA with just under $20 million, so I'd say $19-20 million equals US' $150 million milestone.As far as total gross, I'd say 9:1. $50 million has only been reached by 4 films so far, which comfortably puts that number next to USA's $450 million. Meanwhile there is like a dozen of huge recent blockbusters that ended up between $35m and $45m, which roughly translates to $320-420 million in the US box-office.That's a general rule, but there are undeniably exceptions, John Carter being the most recent and obvious one. Edited March 12, 2012 by Jake Gittes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
