La Binoche Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Tangled is a major reason for Frozen's success. Tangled was a movie that people loved in theatres and loved on DVD, and Frozen is in the same Disney Princess vein. Frozen benefitted from and built on Tangled's success to make even more money. Think of it as The Little Mermaid opening doors for Beauty and the Beast to earn even more money. Without Tangled, Frozen wouldn't have gone anywhere near $300M+. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Annie is one competition Hobbit 3 is again competition (the other two have appealed to families so will the third) Big Hero 6 and Home will be holdovers similar to Rise of the Guardians and Wreck-It Ralph Exodus (Depending on its rating) always could given its Biblical themes There'll probably be some more announced later through the year. Even then, Night at the Museum 3 won't get close to Frozen's overall gross, competition or not. I do not think TABA will be as kids oriented as two previous movies. Massive action and many deaths of characters of the "good side" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyevenstar22 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I can't get excited over an animation numbers but neither can I muster extreme dislike for it however much frozenites are being annoying Now if it was a film given hobbit a run I could maybe muster up being peeved! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Annie is one competition Hobbit 3 is again competition (the other two have appealed to families so will the third) Big Hero 6 and Home will be holdovers similar to Rise of the Guardians and Wreck-It Ralph Exodus (Depending on its rating) always could given its Biblical themes There'll probably be some more announced later through the year. Even then, Night at the Museum 3 won't get close to Frozen's overall gross, competition or not. Ah shit, I forgot about Annie. Museum probably will have to share with that. Either way kid's movies will combine for a solid 300m over next holiday, once again proving my point that Frozen got to have almost the whole pie instead of just a piece this year. Frozen never had to learn how to share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingdong123 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Is anyone even downplaying Tangled's exceptional WOM? If there's anyone downplaying, it's movieman ignoring Frozen's spectacular WOM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I do not think TABA will be as kids oriented as two previous movies. Massive action and many deaths of characters of the "good side" It doesn't matter about your spoiler because that won't be marketed in the trailer, and action doesn't scare off kids, in fact fantasy action actually encourages kids (think Pirates and Harry Potter). Also, kids will want to see how it ends if they saw the last two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 DOS Estimate from BOM $6,510,000 400k less than Rth numbers, but 900k more than Nikki's. A solid drop I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The Hobbit movies are no more kid's films than the LOTR ones. Period, the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 400k less than Rth numbers, but 900k more than Nikki's. A solid drop I think. since the number is just an estimate, maybe RTH is right still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark 33Legend of the Sith Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 That's my issue here though. People are downplaying Tangled's WOM and overplaying Frozen's. Tangled did have fantastic WOM. To say Frozen had Tangled's WOM means I'm saying Frozen's WOM was fantastic too. But as I pointed out in the Frozen thread, kid's movies besides Tangled grossed over half a billion domestically that Holiday season. Kid's movies besides Frozen have grossed over $20m this Holiday season. How could that possibly not be having an impact? Movieman, not once have I ever said that minimal competition hasn't played a part in Frozen's success. In fact I have said that 2-3 times in this thread already. My beef has been you saying that it has performed "merely well" and continuing to downplay a historic run. That is an understatement equivalent to saying it's Walmart does solid business. Making comments like Rise of the Guardians would have done 200 million plus with less competition is a bit wild too. We also agree that Tangled performed great and had awesome WOM. Frozen has proven to be superior from a WOM and box office standpoint. So when you say Frozen has performed "merely well" it doesn't make sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Ah shit, I forgot about Annie. Museum probably will have to share with that. Either way kid's movies will combine for a solid 300m over next holiday, once again proving my point that Frozen got to have almost the whole pie instead of just a piece this year. Frozen never had to learn how to share. Did you ever think that maybe Walking With Dinosaurs flopped (and Mitty under performed) because Frozen was still doing so well with family audiences? Frozen didn't have to learn how to share because it learned to sucker punch its competition in the face, grab the pie, and run with it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The Hobbit movies are no more kid's films than the LOTR ones. Period, the end. Right, that's why I kept seeing hobbit trailers when I went to animated movies. The Hobbit has a universal audience (and you know this isn't because im a Hobbit fanboy because I hate these movies) and kids are definitely apart of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 BoxOffice @BoxOffice 44sTHE HOBBIT: THE DESOLATION OF SMAUG took in an estimated $6.51M on Monday. Domestic total now stands at $196.00M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitik Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The Hobbit movies are no more kid's films than the LOTR ones. Period, the end. Said the person who declared that Life Of Pi was a kid's film. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark 33Legend of the Sith Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Did you ever think that maybe Walking With Dinosaurs flopped (and Mitty under performed) because Frozen was still doing so well with family audiences? Frozen didn't have to learn how to share because it learned to sucker punch its competition in the face, grab the pie, and run with it. I think I saw Olaf doing that to a T-Rex around mid-December. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmac Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Ah shit, I forgot about Annie. Museum probably will have to share with that. Either way kid's movies will combine for a solid 300m over next holiday, once again proving my point that Frozen got to have almost the whole pie instead of just a piece this year. Frozen never had to learn how to share. Happy belated birthday MovieMan! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Movieman, not once have I ever said that minimal competition hasn't played a part in Frozen's success. In fact I have said that 2-3 times in this thread already. My beef has been you saying that it has performed "merely well" and continuing to downplay a historic run. That is an understatement equivalent to saying it's Walmart does solid business. Making comments like Rise of the Guardians would have done 200 million plus with less competition is a bit wild too. We also agree that Tangled performed great and had awesome WOM. Frozen has proven to be superior from a WOM and box office standpoint. So when you say Frozen has performed "merely well" it doesn't make sense. For the record you've been one of the few here to at least partly see where I'm coming from, so I'm not really addressing you when I say some are failing to admit the impact of the lack of competition. As far as the "merely well" comment, I meant that as a way of saying it wasn't having Avatar/Titanic holds prior to this past week or so. Yes it was holding good, no doubt about it, but we weren't in "wow" territory. It wasn't doing anything phenom worthy until this 3rd highest 5th weekend thing, and I'm saying that happened because of lack of competition over the Xmas-New Year holiday. Otherwise its holds probably would be more in line with what Tangled did like they were at the beginning of its run. That's really all I'm saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmac Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 BoxOffice @BoxOffice 44s THE HOBBIT: THE DESOLATION OF SMAUG took in an estimated $6.51M on Monday. Domestic total now stands at $196.00M. Will it hit $200M before the end of its run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 THE SECRET LIFE OF WALTER MITTY took in an estimated $2.8M on Monday. 6-day domestic total stands at $28.16M. https://twitter.com/BoxOffice/status/418071695665008640 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Said the person who declared that Life Of Pi was a kid's film. So you're saying a PG film with minimal violence/frightening imagery isn't more kid friendly than a very violent action packed PG-13 one? Lol, ok. Edited December 31, 2013 by MovieMan89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
