LEGO's Ninjago | Lego Movie Spin-off | September 22, 2017 | Trailer on page 3

[FantasticBeasts]

32 minutes ago, YourMother said:

The Lorax was a well known Dr Seuss book adaptation.

My point still remains.

Illumination showed way better dynamics from the very start than WAG did.

In the commercial department..

[MCKillswitch123]

WAG and Illumination are pretty much the polar opposite. Illumination doesn't have huge quality outputs (outside of Despicable Me 1, which, being their 1st, I guess they wanted to try harder to convince people), but they are masters of the art of marketing. WAG is not very good at that, but they are very good at making movies. If only they could figure how Illumination succeeds and apply it to their scenario of creative insight that actually tries, they could have killer hits.

[Sal]

WAG has good solid storytelling behind them.  All of their movies have been pretty solid, though the fact that LEGO Batman and Ninjago are both derivative might not have helped them.  They are terrible at marketing though, at least with their animated films.  I think they're too used to a lot of their adult fare (especially stuff like DC or HP) basically being sold to an already established audience.  They still have to try with LEGO since most LEGO fans aren't into LEGO to watch movies... they're in it to build.

[Jonwo]

2 hours ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

WAG and Illumination are pretty much the polar opposite. Illumination doesn't have huge quality outputs (outside of Despicable Me 1, which, being their 1st, I guess they wanted to try harder to convince people), but they are masters of the art of marketing. WAG is not very good at that, but they are very good at making movies. If only they could figure how Illumination succeeds and apply it to their scenario of creative insight that actually tries, they could have killer hits.

WAG have had two critically acclaimed films, that's pretty solid for a newish studio. I don't think they're terribly at all, they may not be doing Pixar or Illumination numbers but that's very hard to achieve when there is so many animation competition these day. 

2 hours ago, Sal said:

WAG has good solid storytelling behind them.  All of their movies have been pretty solid, though the fact that LEGO Batman and Ninjago are both derivative might not have helped them.  They are terrible at marketing though, at least with their animated films.  I think they're too used to a lot of their adult fare (especially stuff like DC or HP) basically being sold to an already established audience.  They still have to try with LEGO since most LEGO fans aren't into LEGO to watch movies... they're in it to build.

The non Lego movies like Smallfoot and Scooby will be real tests for WAG, I think having the established IPs from the various animation libraries is an advantage but I think WAG can succeed but I think they need to need to make some of the films less pop culture heavy, a lot of the humour in Lego Batman appeals to those get the reference, Storks in comparison was more slapstick heavy and it did alright OS. 

[Fancyarcher]

5 hours ago, Jonwo said:

I think HT3 will see a decrease rather than an increase

Releasing it in the summer, as opposed to late September is a big mistake on Sony's part. 

[YM!]

9 hours ago, a2knet said:

 

This year DM3 could be the only movie with 250m dom. Next year at least 3 are a safe bet:

 

Peter Rabbit	Sony	2/9/18
Sherlock Gnomes	Par.	3/23/18
Sgt. Stubby: An American Hero	FunAcad	4/13/18
The Incredibles 2	BV	6/15/18
Hotel Transylvania 3	Sony	7/13/18
Smallfoot	WB	9/14/18
Dr. Seuss' The Grinch (2017)	Uni.	11/9/18
Ralph Breaks the Internet: Wreck-It Ralph 2	BV	11/21/18
Animated Spider-Man	Sony	12/14/18

 

HT3 and Animated SM could both do 150m+

 

 

Animated Spider-Man should do solid numbers but I wonder how HT3 will fare. For all we know, it could perform an Ice Age 3 on us (left the lucrative March spot to the July spot and made big numbers) or it could be a KFP3.

[a2k]

10 hours ago, FantasticBeasts said:

Ralph will safely make 250m???

Not buying it right now. 200m feels a nice target.

hmm...from what i see it's considered one of the best animations of recent years. 250 may not be safe but i think closer to 250 than 200.

[a2k]

28 minutes ago, YourMother said:

Animated Spider-Man should do solid numbers but I wonder how HT3 will fare. For all we know, it could perform an Ice Age 3 on us (left the lucrative March spot to the July spot and made big numbers) or it could be a KFP3.

yeah, i have no handle of ht3. hopefully it does not show much of a drop and does 140+.

[YM!]

9 minutes ago, a2knet said:

yeah, i have no handle of ht3. hopefully it does not show much of a drop and does 140+.

Ice Age 2 and 3 did about the same domestically, both in the $190M range, maybe it can happen with HT3 but that seems unlikely.

[YM!]

 

 

[YM!]

I wondered if he meant as in story writers as well. On Wikipedia screenplay and story combined has 13 and some of the same story writers wrote the screenplay.

Edited September 20, 2017 by YourMother

[filmlover]

33 minutes ago, YourMother said:

 

 

Pretty sure the most screenwriters ever for a movie has to be The Flintstones '94 which had something like 30+ writers (no joke, look it up) attached to it.

[Jonwo]

It's not unusual for a script to go through multiple writers but 13 credited writers take the writers room and brain trust idea to another level 

[That One Girl]

6 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Pretty sure the most screenwriters ever for a movie has to be The Flintstones '94 which had something like 30+ writers (no joke, look it up) attached to it.

 

I see Tom S. Parker, Jim Jennewein, and Steven E. de Souza.  that seems to be about 1/10 of 30.

[Jonwo]

29 minutes ago, YourMother said:

I wondered if he meant as in story writers as well. On Wikipedia screenplay and story combined has 13 and some of the same story writers wrote the screenplay.

If we minus the writers who also have Story credit then it goes down to five writers which isn't that many for an animated film

Edited September 20, 2017 by Jonwo

[filmlover]

1 minute ago, That One Guy said:

 

I see Tom S. Parker, Jim Jennewein, and Steven E. de Souza.  that seems to be about 1/10 of 30.

http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/the-flintstones/248314/why-35-screenwriters-worked-on-the-flintstones-movie

[That One Girl]

It's not 13 writers.  the person who tweeted that out combined the story and screenplay credits and some people were included in both sections.  There's really only 9, 6 if you discount the people who only had a story credit.

[FantasticBeasts]

8 hours ago, a2knet said:

hmm...from what i see it's considered one of the best animations of recent years. 250 may not be safe but i think closer to 250 than 200.

Ralph was great but I don't believe it will be easy making 250m.

200m, yepp I agree.

[Darth Lehnsherr]

1 hour ago, FantasticBeasts said:

Ralph was great but I don't believe it will be easy making 250m.

200m, yepp I agree.

Yeah the only Disney Animation films to post $250M+ in recent have times have been Zootopia and Frozen (though Moana was close with $248M) 

[Jonwo]

Looks like Ninjago is going to get better reviews than Kingsman!