phantom Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 HTTYD1 swept all Annie awards that year but not Oscar. So there is a probability that HTTYD2 will once again won major awards in Annie but not in Oscar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenUnicorn Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) After so many pests that have been made from haters just for this film be a fail at box office just because they disliked the first movie. I doubt nothing. They are already using the same pests for the Oscars. Not everyone who dislikes/felt meh towards HTTYD2 aren't necessarily people who disliked the first. I LOVED the first and I wanted to like the 2nd, I just... I didn't really like it much. What? So... "Dragons 2 wans't what I expect, so I hope those movies that I've never seen in my life win from it" ?? After the excitement I had toward HTTYD2 before seeing it, I was really disappointed by the final product. Which is a shame, because I was REALLY hoping to like it, I THOUGHT I would like it, but I just.... didn't. A few people I've talked to (including my BFF who I've found to have good judgement about films I'd like) said Lego was good (though some people have said it was bad as well), plus I've now seen part of it thanks to this streaming site, and honestly, I was more entertained by those minutes of The Lego Movie than most parts of HTTYD2—at least, it was funnier, and part of what made HTTYD1 great was the humor. The other part that made the first film great, the primary part, was the relationship between Hiccup and Toothless, which we don't really see that much in the sequel. Hiccup isn't the most interesting protagonist, the one of the two plot twists that wasn't blatantly spoiled in the trailer didn't have much of an emotional impression on me... I did like the song, and the ending animation was excellent, but I just didn't feel as connected to it as I hoped. Also by including the song, as cute as it was, I almost felt as if they were trying to be Disney-esque, like they were trying to engage people more by putting a song in so it seemed a bit out of place, though I liked it. As for BH6, the concept seems intriguing and it reminds me of The Incredibles, not that that's a bad thing, and it's coming off the heels of Frozen. I'm not saying it'll be a masterpiece because Frozen was, as each movie stands alone on its own merit, but Disney is finally getting back on its feet and has risen into a new Renaissance now, whereas DWA seem to be relying just on sequels to their more popular franchises. Shrek and Madagascar had some great movies (with the exception of Shrek 3 and Madagascar 2 IMO), and they had good, solid endings... and now they're apparently making more. So I have a bit of confidence in at least that BH6 will be good. It could be terrible, who knows, but still. As it stands, from the films I've seen so far, Lego should win over HTTYD2, though another film this year like The Book of Life or BH6 may take that spot IMO. Deserves the win? Geez, what if one, two, three or all four of The Boxtrolls, The Book of Life, Big Hero 6 and Song of the Sea turn out to be better than both? I think The Panda meant that Lego deserves the win over HTTYD2, and saying that out of the animated movies that have been released so far it currently seems the front-runner to win, though that might change later. Edited July 14, 2014 by FrozenUnicorn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tong kosong Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I haven't seen Lego yet... but I actually hope it or BH6 wins over HTTYD2. Maybe it's because I went into it with the foreknowledge that one major character is killed by another major character thanks to a magazine article (though it didn't say which characters were involved), but I just... didn't really feel much of an emotional impact. HTTYD1, TS3, and Frozen were much better at that. Agreed. I'm not sure though about which one is better Lego or HTTYD2. I have seen both but both didn't blow me away. I'm leaning towards HTTYD2, but not by much. Most of my friends prefer HTTYD2 though, I think it's because Lego is too reliant on pop culture jokes that don't really work that well in at least my country. I'm still waiting for BH6 though, it looks good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAtGender Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 At this point, Lego is probably in a better position to win. But at this point there are really only two films in consideration. There have been no other films released that have any realistic chance of a win. (I expect several will be put forth for consideration, but they aren't going to win or even get nominated.) The rest of the year has at least five more films which can be heavy contenders, so we're still really heavily in wait and see mode. The narrative can change. Near the end of last year, it seemed that The Wind Rises was in the prime position, with Miyazaki's retirement playing into the story. A month later and the story was different and it was all about Frozen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 My predictions1) home- mark my words, this will be dreamworks big comeback2) the nut job- too many people will vote for this as a joke which means it will surprisingly get nominated3) rio 2- as they snubbed the first one, this one will get in4) legends of oz- Dorothy's return- clarius entertainment are a new studio so they will put out good quality films to start with5) planes: fire and rescue- first one got snubbed and this has a prime summer spot and will earn good box office meaning it will be remembered and get the last spotNo Lego movie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChD Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 My predictions1) home- mark my words, this will be dreamworks big comeback2) the nut job- too many people will vote for this as a joke which means it will surprisingly get nominated3) rio 2- as they snubbed the first one, this one will get in4) legends of oz- Dorothy's return- clarius entertainment are a new studio so they will put out good quality films to start with5) planes: fire and rescue- first one got snubbed and this has a prime summer spot and will earn good box office meaning it will be remembered and get the last spot Uhm, no. What the hell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Films Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) No Lego movie? Uhm, no. What the hell?Those predictions were jokes. I think I said that on page 2 and my real original predictions were on page 2 or 3My real predictions now are1. The Lego Movie2. The Boxtrolls3. Foreign animation4. Big Hero 65. HTTYD2Can really see 5 being replaced by book of life, penguins of madagascar or another foreign or unknown animation Edited July 15, 2014 by Films 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rukaio101 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Those predictions were jokes. I think I said that on page 2 and my real original predictions were on page 2 or 3My real predictions now are1. The Lego Movie2. The Boxtrolls3. Foreign animation4. Big Hero 65. HTTYD2Can really see 5 being replaced by book of life, penguins of madagascar or another foreign or unknown animation Yeah no. There's no way HTTYD2 is missing out on a nom unless the rest of the year's animated offerings are very (and I mean very) good. 90+RT offerings don't come around every day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Brave won its Oscar even though it had the lowest RT (78%) score out all the animated movies it was competing against. Higher RT score means nothing. Monsters University had a similar RT score (79%), and wasn't even nominated the following year with much weaker competition. Not sure what happened. Edited July 16, 2014 by Mojoguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rukaio101 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Brave won its Oscar even though it had the lowest RT (78%) score out all the animated movies it was competing against. Higher RT score means nothing. No. That just means that a higher RT score doesn't guarantee a win. Not that a high RT score means nothing. Monsters University had a similar RT score (79%), and wasn't even nominated the following year with much weaker competition. Not sure what happened. I'm as confused about MU's snub as you are (although it obviously wasn't going to win). But there's a big difference between 79% and 90+%. A 90+% scorer is rare for mainstream movies in general, let alone an animated film. HTTYD2 is almost certain to get a nom. Edited July 16, 2014 by Rukaio Alter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safeno Rdz Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) My prediction (in order of probability): 1. How to Train your Dragon 2 2. The Lego Movie 3. Big Hero 8 4. Foreign animation movie 5. The Book of Life Edited July 16, 2014 by Magnum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAtGender Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 So I was curious about RT scores and academy noms. Here's the list, also noting Metacritic rating. Winners in bold. I also marked notable exceptions each year, though some of the foreign films would have ended up in later years. The quality of animation from 2007 to 2010 was pretty much off the charts. Even if it's slightly below that level, it's still pretty solid. 2011 is really interesting in that there were two films that had 90+ RT ratings, and neither got a nom. 2008 also had that happen, though WALL-E was also above that mark. So it's possible that it happens and something with a rating that high misses a nom, but I doubt it happens this year. In 2011, neither of the films made a big splash box office wise. Even as a disappointment, Dragon isn't going to be missed. I did check earlier years, but it seems that until 2007, they were kinda scraping to even get 3 nominations. Shark Tale, anyone? 2013 RT Fresh RT Rating Metacritic Ernest & Celestine 97 8.2 86 The Wind Rises 89 7.9 83Frozen 89 7.7 74 Despicable Me 2 74 6.7 62 The Croods 70 6.5 55 (Monsters University) 78 6.8 65 2012 Frankenweenie 87 7.6 74 ParaNorman 87 7.3 72 Wreck-it Ralph 86 7.4 72 The Pirates! 86 7.2 73Brave 78 6.9 69 (Wolf Children) 92 8.3 72 (Madagascar 3) 79 6.8 60 (Rise of the Guardians) 74 6.5 57 2011Rango 88 7.6 75 Chico & Rita 86 7.6 76 Puss in Boots 84 6.8 65 A Cat in Paris 82 6.8 63 Kung Fu Panda 2 81 6.9 67 (Arthur Christmas) 91 7.2 69 (Winnie the Pooh) 90 7.2 74 (From Up on Poppy Hill) 83 7 71 2010Toy Story 3 99 8.8 92 How to Train Your Dragon 98 7.9 74 The Illusionist 90 8 82 (Arrietty) 94 7.6 80 (Tangled) 89 7.5 71 2009Up 98 8.6 88 Fantastic Mr. Fox 92 7.9 83 The Secret of Kells 91 7.6 81 Coraline 90 7.7 80 The Princess & the Frog 84 7.3 73 (Cloudy Meatballs) 87 7.3 66 (Summer Wars) 76 7 63 2008WALL-E 96 8.5 94 Bolt 88 7.2 67 Kung Fu Panda 87 7.2 73 (Waltz With Bashir) 96 8.4 91 (Ponyo) 92 7.6 86 2007Ratatouille 96 8.4 96 Persepolis 96 8.1 90 Surf’s Up 78 6.6 64 (The Simpsons Movie) 90 7.5 80 (Meet the Robinsons) 66 6.3 61 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Studio Ghibli just got a release date for their new movie. so I guess it might get that foreign indie movie spot. http://www.hitfix.com/in-contention/studio-ghiblis-tale-of-princess-kaguya-joins-this-years-oscar-race?hf_source=HitFixUserShare&hf_medium=Twitter&hf_campaign=KristopherTapley&hf_exp=social_title_off&title=Studio%20Ghibli%27s%20%27Tale%20of%20Princess%20Kaguya%27%20joins%20this%20year%27s%20Oscar%20race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezen Baklattan Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Nice. When Marnie Was There will probably be shooting for next year as well. Current prediction: The LEGO Movie How To Train Your Dragon 2 Tale of Princess Kaguya Big Hero 6 The Boxtrolls Edited July 16, 2014 by Spaghetti 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KushAboveAll Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 2010 was a hell of a year for animation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Freak Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I had no idea that Arthur Christmas was such a critical darling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 arthur christmas is great. it's the closest we've come to a new christmas classic in the last decade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Freak Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 It is good but definitely surprised to see it get a higher RT than the likes of Rango, Coraline, Wreck It Ralph, ParaNorman and Frozen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAtGender Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 It is good but definitely surprised to see it get a higher RT than the likes of Rango, Coraline, Wreck It Ralph, ParaNorman and Frozen. Lower average, though. I don't know if I'd argue it should have won over Rango. But it definitely should have been nominated, along with Winnie the Pooh. (Poppy Hill I'm not sure about. I like it, but it's not top tier Ghibli. It also may not have been eligible in '11, but rather in '12.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) All I remembered about Arthur Christmas was the awful teaser! Edited July 21, 2014 by Mojoguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
