Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

[vc2002]

Always fun to have a laugh at people who think Avatar didnt have a great or even decent love story. It was the film's strong suit folks. There are not many films out there with a better love story than Avatar had. :DAnyway, since some haters said "OMG Avatar isn't original. It's a Dance with Wolves ripoff. ", that guy should have put up the lawsuit against Kevin Costner instead of Cameron.

[Magic]

Avatar's strong suit was the technological advances, the special effects and the action sequences. Dialogue and love story weren't strong at all.

[Magic]

The more I watched Avatar the more empty it seemed. Once you get past the technical and visual spectacle you start seeing how much better this film could have been if Cameron was at his best, had provided a more mature plot and got someone else to write the damn dialogue.He's made better sequels in the past so hopefully Avatar 2 is better...

Edited December 10, 2011 by Magic

[Ball Lightning]

Avatar's strong suit was the technological advances, the special effects and the action sequences. Dialogue and love story weren't strong at all.

Nearly everyone I know disagrees with you. I'm in the middle, I appreciate that the lover story was there and definitely appealed to the vast majority of the public, but for me it just wasn't very strong. I loved the environment and SFX

[Elessar]

The more I watched Avatar the more empty it seemed.

It was damn full.Granted, it's not Cameron's best movie but considering pretty much all his movies are at least good, that's not much of a minus.

[vc2002]

Avatar's strong suit was the technological advances, the special effects and the action sequences. Dialogue and love story weren't strong at all.

The more I watched Avatar the more empty it seemed. Once you get past the technical and visual spectacle you start seeing how much better this film could have been if Cameron was at his best, had provided a more mature plot and got someone else to write the damn dialogue.He's made better sequels in the past so hopefully Avatar 2 is better...

I wont try to set an argument here, because all are just your, personal and subjective, opinion.I just want to say that your comments are exactly the same as people used to have on Titanic: a poor love story, bad dialogue, weak plot, blah blah blah

[lab276]

Titanic is much stronger than Avatar.

[vc2002]

Titanic is much stronger than Avatar.

Of cause it is. Titanic is like, the biggest tear jerker of all time. But that's not the point here. Edited December 10, 2011 by vc2002

[Magic]

As someone who see's Cameron's best films as Terminator 2 and Aliens...Titanic and Avatar are disappointing in comparison. They might have been bigger and made more money...but they weren't better. Better spectacles, weaker films.

[lab276]

Of cause it is. Titanic is like, the biggest tear jerker of all time. But that's not the point here.

What I mean is that Titanic is stronger in every department. Even the special effects.

[Ball Lightning]

As someone who see's Cameron's best films as Terminator 2 and Aliens...Titanic and Avatar are disappointing in comparison. They might have been bigger and made more money...but they weren't better. Better spectacles, weaker films.

Really depends on what you think a better/weaker film is. The spectacle is what made the Avatar experience so wonderful for me, that hardly makes it a weaker film. A film is about entertainment, some are much more conceptual and original then others, but Avatar was probably one of the most entertaining films I have seen recently.And movies are made for the masses, so of course if you don't like what the masses like then it'll be a weaker film for you.However the BO is about the masses, so we must always take them into account.

[Cedarpoint1111]

Idk what you're talking about Magic, Titanic was a fantastic film. Acting was beautiful, movie was beautiful, and the story was beautiful. One of the best films ever and certainly better then fucking Alien....

[lab276]

As someone who see's Cameron's best films as Terminator 2 and Aliens...Titanic and Avatar are disappointing in comparison. They might have been bigger and made more money...but they weren't better. Better spectacles, weaker films.

I found Aliens to be disappointing.

[Magic]

Idk what you're talking about Magic, Titanic was a fantastic film. Acting was beautiful, movie was beautiful, and the story was beautiful. One of the best films ever and certainly better then fucking Alien....

Just checking RT and critics seem to think so too.Aliens is 100% with an average rating of 8.8/10.Titanic... 83% 7.4/10.I guess I'm not completely alone.

[vc2002]

What I mean is that Titanic is stronger in every department. Even the special effects.

In terms of CG, Titanic is obviously no match on todays' standard, but Titanic had a lot of practical effects, and that's sth different because Avatar basically is all CG. Given that Cameron literally rebuilt the Titanic back in 1997, it's hard to top that tho. Edited December 10, 2011 by vc2002

[Cedarpoint1111]

Just checking RT and critics seem to think so too.Aliens is 100% with an average rating of 8.8/10.Titanic... 83% 7.4/10.I guess I'm not completely alone.

Muppets has 97%, does that mean it's better then Titanic too?

[Cedarpoint1111]

It's all based on opinion anyway but I agree Avatar wasn't Cameron's best work. However, if the sequel is as good as the first, then they are looking at another $2B+ WW which is all the matters to them anyways.

Edited December 10, 2011 by Cedarpoint

[Magic]

Muppets has 97%, does that mean it's better then Titanic too?

Dunno. Haven't seen it, maybe. It has a higher average rating too.

[Cedarpoint1111]

... ... :lol:in that order

[vc2002]

Saying Avatar isn't Cameron's best work is one thing, saying Avatar is a weak film is another. IMO T2 is his best work, and one of the greatest sci-fi movies of all time, and I dont' think he can ever top that, not even with Battle Angel if that ever gets made. But, your being not as great as Michael Jordan doesnt make you a bad player. You can still be Kobe Byrant.

Edited December 10, 2011 by vc2002