Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

[Cochofles]

Nearly everyone I know disagrees with you. I'm in the middle, I appreciate that the lover story was there and definitely appealed to the vast majority of the public, but for me it just wasn't very strong. I loved the environment and SFX

Everyone I know that's not a science fiction/comic book geek agrees that what they loved about the film the most was the story. A film doesn't elicit the repeat business Avatar and Titanic did if the human story doesn't touch the audience in some way. In fact, the people I know who loved it for the special effects (my comic geek friends) only saw it once.

[Cedarpoint1111]

Saying Avatar isn't Cameron's best work is one thing, saying Avatar is a weak film is another. IMO T2 is his best work, and one of the greatest sci-fi movies of all time, and I dont' think he can ever top that, not even with Battle Angel if that ever gets made. But, your being not as great as Michael Jordan doesnt make you a bad player. You can still be Kobe Byrant.

Exactly. Cameron is a great director so I have faith that he will once again amaze us. Just the fact that none of us can agree on which one of his films is the best, proves that most (if not all) of his work, is fantastic.

[kayumanggi]

I agree with that. Plus it's not easy to do a film with big vfx and have a great story. Very few directors can balance those aspects.

[junkshop36]

Cameron is an absolute genius filmmaker to me. He hasn't made a movie that I haven't enjoyed. Some of them I even love. I've yet to be dissapointed by the guy so I'll be highly anticipating Avatar 2/3 and Battle Angel; if he ever gets around to it.

[Kvikk Lunsj]

Avatar is more of a love-story then Potter... Basically Jake falls in love while Nyteri is kicking his ass and teaching him. Then she falls for him and there are obstacles they have to overcome, like the fact he's not even a real alien. Not to mention, there's an alien race trying to kill her family and their home.

Harry Potter falls in love with Ginny.It was such a bad love story in my opinion. I felt like the love story was horrible written I could care less for the characters. I never felt like they cared about each other. I was so appointed in Avatar.Now Titanic is a good love story.

[Ozymandias]

Avatar's strong suit was the technological advances, the special effects and the action sequences. Dialogue and love story weren't strong at all.

Avatar's strong suit was the technological advances, the special effects and the action sequences. Dialogue and love story weren't strong at all.

I just watched Avatar for the first time in over a year and I agree that the dialogue in some scenes is really bad(almost terrible), but it did captivate me in a way that very, very few films have done. There is definitely room for improvement in for the sequel. I'm hoping for a grittier and darker sequel with Avatar 2.

[Cedarpoint1111]

I'm sure this will be pretty family friendly. Either way, I think it's near impossible for this beat Avatar domestically. It can do it OS and WW since those are ever expanding but I still doubt it.175/5901.8B OS2.39B WW

[fishstick]

Cameron said he envisioned a trilogy and he said that before Avatar hit theaters. So it isn`t like when they make a standalone movie and than force sequels to a story that`s done. Avatar is a great standalone movie but you can feel that there are many things that can be explored further. Also, he has very good track record with sequels (Aliens, T2) so I doubt he`ll give us more of the same. Of course, anyone can stumble but the sequels are guaranteed to provide at least some never-seen-before technological wonder (like Alien Queen and liquid metal T1000) if not a strong story as well.I love Avatar precisely because it`s so simple and straightforward. I don`t think the movie would have so many detractors if it didn`t end up an oscar nominee. That was when people who loved it started getting cynical and going "oh, Oscar nominee can`t possibly be a simple love story, WTF?"

[vc2002]

People say "Oh you can't judge a film by its box office numbers." but keep in mind that, unlike TDK, TF2 or DH2, Avatar didnt have the luxury of a diehard fanbase and the gigantic awareness that a sequel owns, and without a huge OW that usually certifies a great box office result, its success was built almost entirely on its WOM. To keep the audience coming back again and again like that, the visuals alone are not enough because no matter how spectacular the visuals are, people will get bored soon enough. The film has to make people emotionally invested, and only emotional investment will give people the will of exploring more instead of getting bored. And this is exactly the same reason both Titanic and Avatar became WW phenomenons that could only happen in decades: they both had the spectacles, and they also succeeded massively on the emotional level. (And for the same reason they even received the same backlash, from the media and on the internet.)

Edited December 11, 2011 by vc2002

[vc2002]

DP

Edited December 11, 2011 by vc2002

[Neo]

Just imagine Avatar as BB like you said TDK was a sequel and if Avatar 2 acts like TDK then its over.

[druv10]

Just imagine Avatar as BB like you said TDK was a sequel and if Avatar 2 acts like TDK then its over.

This would be beyond shocking In a good way but shocking.

[Ball Lightning]

This would be beyond shocking In a good way but shocking.

If anyone can do it, it is James Cameron

[Cochofles]

Just imagine Avatar as BB like you said TDK was a sequel and if Avatar 2 acts like TDK then its over.

God, no. If Cameron has vocal internet detractors (who think they speak for everybody) now, imagine if Avatar 2 made, say, 1 billion dollars domestic. The internet trolls would commit suicide en masse. People's brains would explode. Hollywood would kiss the ground Cameron walks on. It would be pandemonium. Edited December 11, 2011 by Cochofles

[sherhamid]

wow avetar 2 reliesed in 2014 . its my favrt film .

[fmpro]

Just imagine Avatar as BB like you said TDK was a sequel and if Avatar 2 acts like TDK then its over.

That requires a very good imagination....Dream scenario IMOLike BKB´s Avengers predictions

[fmpro]

wow avetar 2 reliesed in 2014 . its my favrt film .

Its not written in stone yet..But we all hope

[Cedarpoint1111]

That requires a very good imagination....Dream scenario IMOLike BKB´s Avengers predictions

I think BKB's prediction is more likely then Avatar 2 making more domestic then the original, let alone 1B. That's just ridiculous.

[SchumacherFTW]

According to IGN, Avatar 2 has a record to get back as fastest entertainment product to the Billion dollar mark, Modern Warfare 3 did it in 16 days as opposed to Avatar's 17.

[Neo]

Avatar was 19 days.