Bob Train Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Reading initial reactions to Iger's return is very funny. People were acting all "Return of the King". He has done more damage to the company than Chapek could even imagine. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bob Train said: Reading initial reactions to Iger's return is very funny. People were acting all "Return of the King". He has done more damage to the company than Chapek could even imagine. I got so much flack in my Disney friend circle for telling everyone it was BAD news at the time, and now I’m just over here like… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 35 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said: The fact that he publicly throws Chapek under the bus so hard and so much since coming back is kind of insane when you consider how he made sure everyone knew he “hand picked” Chapek as his successor at the time. Lol Bob. Oh absolutely, but hey everyone wanted him gone so there ain't no friends in a takeover. Igers point that COVID also meant a lot of projects had less direct oversight is also a good point, especially Feige. I think delegating more of the TV side to TV producers and freeing him up is a smart move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 54 minutes ago, robertman2 said: Is DeSantis even relevant anymore? Thought it was all about that Vivek guy now Nah,Vivek is even more irrelevant then DeSantis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, SpiderByte said: Oh absolutely, but hey everyone wanted him gone so there ain't no friends in a takeover. Igers point that COVID also meant a lot of projects had less direct oversight is also a good point, especially Feige. I think delegating more of the TV side to TV producers and freeing him up is a smart move. Paycheck was incompetent no doubt, but he was just fumbling in the dark with Iger’s whole setup. Pretty much every problem they’re in now is traced to Iger honestly. So anyone he tries to throw under is peak cringe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WittyUsername Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 As far as I’m aware, Bob Chapek didn’t even really have the chance to significantly hurt Disney’s bottomline. He was appointed during the early days of the pandemic, and didn’t even last three years with the company. I won’t deny that he’s incompetent, but there’s no denying that he was dealt a bad hand. It was Bob Iger’s idea to prioritize streaming. He was the one who went all in on Disney+, and we’ve now seen how detrimental that strategy was. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excel1 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 How does anyone blame Iger for post-covid Disney debacle? Iger's intention for D+ in 2019 was for it to be a supplemental, "Disney TV channel on steroids" platform to compliment their robust theatrical channel. Covid forced Chapek and company to - logically, I would add - lean heavily on it while theaters were closed. Also, to state the absolute obvious, Bob Iger was by far the most qualified person to take over for Chapek on such short notice. Iger's biggest mistake was botching the handling of Star Wars pre-Covid. It is hard dot even blame him for Chapek given the historically rough waters that Chapek was forced to navigate. The moves that he has been criticized for as of late were largely requirements due to the problems of 2020-2022. Give them some time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Disney currently is just like my country: - local officials / creatives think they have no executive / creative control to do anything good - central leadership / studio executives believe they need more control over their teams I guess they need more time to fix it. Like...2035? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephanos13 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 GFY! Hi Bob! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlborn Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 13 hours ago, SpiderByte said: Oh absolutely, but hey everyone wanted him gone so there ain't no friends in a takeover. Igers point that COVID also meant a lot of projects had less direct oversight is also a good point, especially Feige. I think delegating more of the TV side to TV producers and freeing him up is a smart move. Feige should never ever been in the position to having to oversee the TV side and the movie side of the MCU at the same time. It's so obvious that he's stretched thin as hell and everything MCU suffered as a result, it's not even funny. Whoever decided(him or Iger or someone else) to let him handle everything without delegating stuff really messed up. 10 hours ago, Gavin Feng said: Disney currently is just like my country: - local officials / creatives think they have no executive / creative control to do anything good - central leadership / studio executives believe they need more control over their teams I guess they need more time to fix it. Like...2035? This is actually not a bad analogy at all. I am sure this disconnect is big inside Disney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaster506 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Musk shit all over Disney/Iger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephanos13 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 6 hours ago, stephanos13 said: GFY! Hi Bob! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxx93 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) I remember an old footage from Michael Jordan saying something along the lines of "Republicans buy sneakers, too" in response to why he was not willing to endorse a democrat candidate in the 90s or any controversial stance for that matter. Maybe The Bob Iger Company should learn a thing or two from Michael Jordan. Edited November 30, 2023 by Boxx93 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) Lol at framing Musks statement as an own and not just part of a totally embarrassing interview where he's clearly coked out of his mind. He's mad that the free market doesn't want anything to do with him. Edited November 30, 2023 by SpiderByte 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masketta Man Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 In a fight between Disney and Melon I root for the fight. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatnumRoyce Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 52 minutes ago, Masketta Man said: In a fight between Disney and Melon I root for the fight. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 56 minutes ago, Masketta Man said: In a fight between Disney and Melon I root for the fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingonaName Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 I do not trust a exec who isn't on the blow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, WorkingonaName said: I do not trust a exec who isn't on the blow. You are crazy if you don't think Iger isn't doing blow everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteryMovieMogul Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Oh no, are we really going to have Musk fanboys fawning over Musk not knowing the definition of "blackmail?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...