Bob Train Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, PlatnumRoyce said: Elementals' awful opening doesn't fit with that hypothesis. People genuinely liked the film, but they just didn't give it a chance on release. It had bad reviews (initially, then they recovered) and the marketing was also bad. But since WOM was good it had a very leggy run. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 7 hours ago, Torontofan said: that is why i said it not only has to be a good film but also be appealing. inside out 1 was a very popular film so it had brand working for it and buzz around the film is solid so people thought it worth checking out. You literally said good or appealing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontofan Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 hour ago, YM! said: You literally said good or appealing. lol good film plus have a wide draw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Prime Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Iconic. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpdd34k33dro Workers sue Disney after moving for cancelled project 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 27 minutes ago, cannastop said: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpdd34k33dro Workers sue Disney after moving for cancelled project I think that is fair. Pay them Iger. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Human Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 More Iger should have not told them "move or resign" until he knew for a fact the project would be done. Now that they have moved he needs to give them the employment by some means in Florida. They are not after just a one time payment, but a steady paycheck they were promised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 On 6/17/2024 at 3:48 PM, Bob Train said: It had bad reviews (initially, then they recovered) and the marketing was also bad. But since WOM was good it had a very leggy run. Elementals is one of the few films where WOM actually saved it...something often talked about but which seldoms happens. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 On 6/17/2024 at 2:30 PM, cannastop said: That doesn't tell us shit we don't already know. Audiences going for IP and shit Point is that films that do as well as IO2 are few and far between. Streaming has had a huge impact on theater attednence. No getting around that fact unless you want to just throw reality out the window. Even a strong IP is not a guarantee anymore. We have had some films with strong IP;s fail at the box office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/star-wars-older-more-male-170000506.html#:~:text=Between the two franchises%2C Star,demographics of the original trilogy. Star Wars has older, more male skewing audience. Star Wars will probably go the way of Indiana Jones and Terminator one day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insomnia Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 26 minutes ago, John Marston said: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/star-wars-older-more-male-170000506.html#:~:text=Between the two franchises%2C Star,demographics of the original trilogy. Star Wars has older, more male skewing audience. Star Wars will probably go the way of Indiana Jones and Terminator one day Absolutely. That Rey movie is DOA too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potiki Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 53 minutes ago, John Marston said: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/star-wars-older-more-male-170000506.html#:~:text=Between the two franchises%2C Star,demographics of the original trilogy. Star Wars has older, more male skewing audience. Star Wars will probably go the way of Indiana Jones and Terminator one day Quote Using Parrot Analytics’ Audience Solutions But even putting that aside their over/under is 30 years old, it isn't really showing that much difference from TROS domestic audience reports: Quote The audience breakdown for Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker skewed 59 percent male, 41 percent female, 64 percent over the age of 25 and 37 percent under the age of 25. Family audiences represented an estimated 20 percent of the film's overall audience. Of note, is that the film's audience breakdowns were quite similar to the audience breakdowns of Star Wars: The Last Jedi, which suggests that Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker experienced slowing among all demographics. source: http://www.boxofficereport.com/theriseofskywalkerreport.html#:~:text=The audience breakdown for Star,of the film's overall audience. The Mando film should be interesting at that skews younger and more gender neutral both domestic and abroad from some insights I've seen (plus there is plenty of anecdotal evidence to support that) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 I think a Mando movie could be a pretty big hit. Grogu is a Mickey Mouse level merch mover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AniNate said: I think a Mando movie could be a pretty big hit. Grogu is a Mickey Mouse level merch mover. maybe a few years ago bit with passage of time and Season 3 getting a mixed reception I’m thinking 500-600m Edited June 24 by John Marston 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroHour Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 4 minutes ago, Potiki said: But even putting that aside their over/under is 30 years old, it isn't really showing that much difference from TROS domestic audience reports: source: http://www.boxofficereport.com/theriseofskywalkerreport.html#:~:text=The audience breakdown for Star,of the film's overall audience. The Mando film should be interesting at that skews younger and more gender neutral both domestic and abroad from some insights I've seen (plus there is plenty of anecdotal evidence to support that) People are sleeping a bit on the Mando movie. My three year old calls Yoda and all Yoda merch Grogu. That’s anecdotal too but I definitely buy that it skews younger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 People declaring Star Wars a dead franchise is absolutely detached from reality 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SpiderByte said: People declaring Star Wars a dead franchise is absolutely detached from reality Not completely dead yet but almost there Edited June 24 by John Marston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WittyUsername Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 I’m sure Grogu still moves merch, but he’s not exactly the talk of the town like he was just before the pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excel1 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 flashbacks to 2007. the Rey movie needs tot be a proper send off to Luke w/ Hamill on board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickiland16 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 It should be interesting to see how the tracking goes based on presales. Compared to other franchises it should still be frontloaded but if I has to guess this one will probably skew more families than the previous Star Wars movies. By the way a younger audience should mean more diversity which seems to translate into walk-ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
