drdungbeetle Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) Prometheus sucked for the "wrong" reasons (crappily written scientists, not enough development of the Space Jockeys, boring female birth metaphors) not for the "right" reasons the tardy reviewers mentioned (attempt at illustrating the broader universe, epic scope, actual development of Weyland). Ridley got lazy AGAIN and decided that adding more of the "wrong" would fix the series rather than focusing on the "right". Also the writers saw Jurassic World and thought rehashing Alien #1 would work again because of it. Edited May 12, 2017 by drdungbeetle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 1 minute ago, tribefan695 said: I had problems with Prometheus, but that doesn't mean I wanted them to just do a polished slasher movie. Problems are one thing, but I never understood why so many seemed to so abhorrently object to the idea of a sequel. Aside from the supporting character's stupidity, the other complaint was "well it didn't answer enough of its questions." Well then wait for the sequels originally intended! There was just too much backlash and I know that's why we have this film instead of Prometheus 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 So reviews are fairly good yet people are acting like this is some kind of disaster. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdungbeetle Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said: Problems are one thing, but I never understood why so many seemed to so abhorrently object to the idea of a sequel. Aside from the supporting character's stupidity, the other complaint was "well it didn't answer enough of its questions." Well then wait for the sequels originally intended! There was just too much backlash and I know that's why we have this film instead of Prometheus 2. Without giving spoilers, it doesn't look like this movie answers the questions and just goes for blood and gore and David fanwank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Prometheus was half-baked on both fronts, imo. I'd rather it not have been a horror movie at all and just gone straight for the slightly eerie, cerebral atmosphere the whole way that it was setting up in the first half. Maybe I might've actually been interested in the questions (and answers?) it would pose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdungbeetle Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, tribefan695 said: Prometheus was half-baked on both fronts, imo. I'd rather it not have been a horror movie at all and just gone straight for the slightly eerie, cerebral atmosphere the whole way that it was setting up in the first half. Maybe I might've actually been interested in the questions (and answers?) it would pose. Yeah, Prometheus was neither fish nor fowl, but it at least offered a possibility of a more interesting twist on the series. Covenant offers nuthin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 With 90 reviews and still over 75% this movie should be certified fresh pretty soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasNicole Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Well, i see the movie and honestly i'm disappointed... Prometheus is better. Covenant is a fun "slasher", but that's all, the answers is confusing, the connections with Prometheus are bad... it's not a bad movie, but it's really medium. 3/5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjones1325 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 So over the course of this weekend, I watched every film in the Alien franchise in preparation for this movie [You can see my recap here: https://rendyreviews.com/revisit/the-alien-franchise]. Though I know this is the direct sequel to Prometheus, this is still an official Alien movie. An Alien movie by director Ridley Scott? The man who bought us the original? As Ridley Scott gets older and his direction skills advanced through the ages, so does his VFX team. The CG of the new types of aliens are effective to the film’s action violence. There’s so many new types of death the film establishes that is gloriously gory. At some times it may get laughably dumb how people die, but then it gets surprisingly creative. (https://rendyreviews.com/movies//alien-covenant-review) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, John Marston said: So reviews are fairly good yet people are acting like this is some kind of disaster. Lol People are conviniently ignoring the positive reviews, only focusing on the ones that fit their narrative. Edited May 12, 2017 by Elessar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOVIEGUY Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Elessar said: People are conviniently ignoring the positive reviews, only focusing on the ones that fit their narrative. The positive reviews don't really instill any confidence in this either. I'm reading the same things in the positive and negative reviews, it's just varying degrees of criticisms. The dude on the other page who gave it a positive review said things like "definitely like The Force Awakens in terms of repeating plot beats from the original" and "fresh-ish". I know where my tastes lie and I can read between the lines of a positive or negative review and make judgments for myself, and my judgment is that based on everything I've seen and read about this I don't think I'm going to like it, and I'm not gonna go to a theater and spend money to see it. Edited May 12, 2017 by MOVIEGUY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, MOVIEGUY said: The positive reviews don't really instill any confidence in this either. I'm reading the same things in the positive and negative reviews, it's just varying degrees of criticisms. The dude on the other page who gave it a positive review said things like "definitely like The Force Awakens in terms of repeating plot beats from the original" and "fresh-ish". I know where my tastes lie and I can read between the lines of a positive or negative review and make judgments for myself, and my judgment is that based on everything I've seen and read about this I don't think I'm going to like it, and I'm not gonna go to a theater and spend money to see it. You obviously care enough about this movie to write 5 full lines about why you won't see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aabattery Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 #AlienCovenant collected $899k on its first day of release at the Australian box office. Results: https://t.co/LrazmhpQMg pic.twitter.com/KWR05Xz831 — Numero (@numeroboxoffice) May 12, 2017 #AlienConvenant topped the New Zealand box office charts on its opening day of release for Fox. Results: https://t.co/r6p9EMEfYY pic.twitter.com/xUMFm7uGJY — Numero (@numeroboxoffice) May 12, 2017 So 664k USD OD in Aus and 80k USD OD in NZ. Make of those what you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Just now, aabattery said: So 664k USD OD in Aus and 80k USD OD in NZ. Make of those what you will. What does this mean? @DeeCee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOVIEGUY Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said: You obviously care enough about this movie to write 5 full lines about why you won't see it Welllll I have lots of very important opinions that need to be heard I think it's just the "Why do pay attention to reviews THINK FOR YOURSELF, SHEEPLE" thing that bothers me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aabattery Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said: What does this mean? @DeeCee I am not DeeCee but it's 69% of Logan's OD (which was 1.3M AUD). If it follows that track it would get a weekend of 58M. So if I had to say anything from that, I would say that you can be confident in a 50M+ weekend. But I'm not the expert here so I could be way off base. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 15 minutes ago, MOVIEGUY said: Welllll I have lots of very important opinions that need to be heard I think it's just the "Why do pay attention to reviews THINK FOR YOURSELF, SHEEPLE" thing that bothers me. I've seen a lot more movies this year so far than any other year. Critics are important and I still listen to them often, but if I'm even slightly interested in a movie, I'll try to see it in theaters. 12 minutes ago, aabattery said: I am not DeeCee but it's 69% of Logan's OD (which was 1.3M AUD). If it follows that track it would get a weekend of 58M. So if I had to say anything from that, I would say that you can be confident in a 50M+ weekend. But I'm not the expert here so I could be way off base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) If Covenant had been released in 1979 and the original Alien now, the latter would have gotten trashed for just doing the same or being just a simple "slasher in space", probably. Edited May 12, 2017 by Elessar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durden Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Excluding Alien vs. Predator, Covenant is the worst of the franchise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Let s check out this Horror ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
