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It's very good. Great to see Doug Liman try something different and it's one of Cruise's better performances in the last 15 years or so, which is saying something. 

 

Think War Dogs/Wolf of Wall Street kind of time at the movies. Light on its feet and hugely enjoyable. 

 

Can see it doing $60-70 million domestic. 

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I think this will be #1 on OW with 25M. My forecast:

 

Sep 29: 25M (9.5M weekdays, 34.5M Total)

Oct 6: 15M (6M weekdays, 55.5M Total)

Oct 13: 9.3M (3.8M weekdays, 68.6M Total)

Oct 20: 5.6M (2.3M weekdays, 76.5M Total)

Oct 27: 3.6M (1.5M weekdays, 81.6M Total)

Nov 3: 2M (800k weekdays, 84.4M Total)

Nov 10: 1.2M (500k weekdays, 86.1M Total)

 

Final Total: 90M (3.6x)

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5 hours ago, WrathOfHan said:

I think this will be #1 on OW with 25M. My forecast:

 

Sep 29: 25M (9.5M weekdays, 34.5M Total)

Oct 6: 15M (6M weekdays, 55.5M Total)

Oct 13: 9.3M (3.8M weekdays, 68.6M Total)

Oct 20: 5.6M (2.3M weekdays, 76.5M Total)

Oct 27: 3.6M (1.5M weekdays, 81.6M Total)

Nov 3: 2M (800k weekdays, 84.4M Total)

Nov 10: 1.2M (500k weekdays, 86.1M Total)

 

Final Total: 90M (3.6x)

That sound optimistic both OW and legs, that is the Town box office and not too far from Wolf of Wall street.

 

Recent crime/criminal bio type of movie, ow is the biggest weekend on expansion for limited release:

 

19.1m / 150.1m - American hustle

18.3m / 117m dbo - Wolf of Wall street

27m / 75.6m   - 2 guns

22.6m / 62.5m - black Mass

20.2m / 49.8m - Pain and Gain

14.6m / 43m - War dogs

10.4m / 32.38m - Nightcrawler

9.1 m / 33.68m  - Gambler

5.8 / 27m  - Hell of high water

5.7m / 14.7m  - Criminal

6.1m / 12.6m  - Triple 9

5.1 / 10.3 m - Live By Night
 

That would put American Made second in opening weekend, below only Denzel and number 3 in domestic box office below only Russel assemble and Scorsese-DiCaprio, both acclaimed movies with a lot of buzz and Oscars nominations. 

 

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Edge of tomorrow: 28.76m / 100.2m dbo (3.48x legs)

 

Tom Cruise recent non mission impossible opening:

Mummy: 31.6m

Jack Reacher 2: 22.8m

Edge of Tomorrow: 28.76m

Oblivion: 37m

Jack Reacher: 15.2m (Christmas release, I would imagine an equilvant of a 25m regular weekend)

Rock of Age: 14.4m

Knight & Day: 20.1m

Valkyrie: 21m

 

Average: 23.85m 

 

Predicting (25/90) is predicting nearly the same performance than Edge of Tomorrow (a 168m summer giant blockbuster with a nice High concept) and above average Cruise opening (in a list of movies than include franchise and 160m+ action movies) for a movie that seem to be getting a bit of a strange world roll out with an 63 metascore (that could go down once the American reviews get int).

 

It is not a bad weekend at all historically that last september weekend too and flatliner should not be a strong competition for adults, but War Dogs/Pain&Gain does not seem bad comparable for American Made imo, 18m OW/53m dbo +/- 25%.

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11 minutes ago, Barnack said:

That sound optimistic both OW and legs, that is the Town box office and not too far from Wolf of Wall street.

 

Recent crime/criminal bio type of movie, ow is the biggest weekend on expansion for limited release:

 

19.1m / 150.1m - American hustle

18.3m / 117m dbo - Wolf of Wall street

27m / 75.6m   - 2 guns

22.6m / 62.5m - black Mass

20.2m / 49.8m - Pain and Gain

14.6m / 43m - War dogs

10.4m / 32.38m - Nightcrawler

9.1 m / 33.68m  - Gambler

5.8 / 27m  - Hell of high water

5.7m / 14.7m  - Criminal

6.1m / 12.6m  - Triple 9

5.1 / 10.3 m - Live By Night
 

That would put American Made second in opening weekend, below only Denzel and number 3 in domestic box office below only Russel assemble and Scorsese-DiCaprio, both acclaimed movies with a lot of buzz and Oscars nominations. 

 

----------

Liman Cruise collaboration

Edge of tomorrow: 28.76m / 100.2m dbo (3.48x legs)

 

Tom Cruise recent non mission impossible opening:

Mummy: 31.6m

Jack Reacher 2: 22.8m

Edge of Tomorrow: 28.76m

Oblivion: 37m

Jack Reacher: 15.2m (Christmas release, I would imagine an equilvant of a 25m regular weekend)

Rock of Age: 14.4m

Knight & Day: 20.1m

Valkyrie: 21m

 

Average: 23.85m 

 

Predicting (25/90) is predicting nearly the same performance than Edge of Tomorrow (a 168m summer giant blockbuster with a nice High concept) and above average Cruise opening (in a list of movies than include franchise and 160m+ action movies) for a movie that seem to be getting a bit of a strange world roll out with an 63 metascore (that could go down once the American reviews get int).

 

It is not a bad weekend at all historically that last september weekend too and flatliner should not be a strong competition for adults, but War Dogs/Pain&Gain does not seem bad comparable for American Made imo, 18m OW/53m dbo +/- 25%.

Very well put. The opening in the UK seems to suggest a run similar to War Dogs. It  opened at the same number as WD. add the weird roll out in the us and i don't see any big numbers for this.  15/44 is my prediction

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Just now, HesAPooka said:

This opened in Thailand and apparently they're loving it. It's trending on twitter over there. Wonder if that will translate to other Asian markets as well.

eh small market. it bombed in the UK...where numbers actually matter

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War dogs

Australia OW: 1,068,111

UK OW: 1,320,806

New zealand:137,677

 

American Made

Australia OW: 1,696,902

UK OW: 1,374,742

New Zealand: 144,164

 

War dogs ended up doing: 43,200,000 oversea / 43m domestic. With Tom Cruise we should expect an higher Intl/Dom ratio and better performance in Asia/South America/Russia and a release in more markets like Japan.

 

But in English speaking market more similar to the US, even thought it is opening clearly higher, it is not far from War Dogs.

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11 minutes ago, Alli said:

eh small market. it bombed in the UK...where numbers actually matter

And UK has what to do with my statement of hoping the Thai success translate well to other asian markets?

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2 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

 

Hustle finished 21st in the year and Sniper finished 27th.  Not exactly what I'd call "awesome" numbers but sure?

Hustle was a huge success in the UK. 22M is massive. AM opened to 1.3M. it's a bomb :qotd:

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7 hours ago, That One Guy said:

 

Hustle finished 21st in the year and Sniper finished 27th.  Not exactly what I'd call "awesome" numbers but sure?

Well hustle was #46 in oversea box office, Sniper was #27 in oversea box office those year, they still performed better or equal in the UK (very compatible market) than in the average foreign market.

 

Hustle #21 in the UK, not that different than number #17 domestic.

 

Captain America: The First Avenger, finishing number 34 would probably be a better example of American in the name probably hurting him a little bit in foreign markets.

 

Still in the UK:

 

American Sniper: 3.8m, $20.7m total / 197m oversea total

Captain america first avengers: 4,9m OW, 14.7m total / 193m oversea total

American hustle: platform release, $22.5m total / 101m oversea total

 

American Made: 1,374,742 OW

 

Not adjusted for the exchange rate.

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@Alli first you wouldn't stop about how the movie was going to get mediocre reviews, but now that's it's getting good reviews you've moved on to it "bombing" in the UK despite opening to number 1 and you being told by users in the UK thread that the BO was down because of good weather which happens in the UK. You're so clearly trolling.

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