Weekend Estimates: Insurgent 54m | Cinderella $34.5m pg 29

[Ando918]

That's for visual FX only. Divergent movies have neither a good story, characters, or good visual effects. They're visually, thematically, and emotionally redundant. Transformers 4 is a dumb movie, but it's visually orgasmic as well. Hence the B- 

 

If someone wants to fawn over a YA movie, The Hunger Games franchise has my vote. All three excellent. Or even the first Maze Runner which wasn't bad. 

Does Transformers 4 get points removed for being an hour too long?  Does that factor in your score at all?  How about the blatant sexism?  How about the quality of the acting?  You sure give visual effects a lot of credit.  

 

Divergent is not a really good movie or anything, but it is better than Michael Bayhem because it at least allows its two lead characters to act.  

[Blankments]

I want some Cinderella numbers!

 

I liked Divergent, but IDK, nothing about Insurgent made me want to see it. Very very poor marketing effort from Lionsgate this go around.

[Dragon]

Some of ya aint shit

Edited March 21, 2015 by Dragon

[Aplandg]

To me I take MR over Divergent. I think MR had better execution compare to Divergent. Thats my opinion.

Divergent had some execution problems and unfortunate pacing which is the fault of the source material. Insurgent was much better (book and movie) but the movie does have some ill advised dialog and cliches.

Edited March 21, 2015 by aplandgrey

[Klingo]

Divergent had some execution problems and unfortunate pacing which is the fault of the source material. Insurgent was much better (book and movie) but the movie does have some ill advised dialog and cliches.

Something like this?

[BadAtGender]

Critics opinions are no important than anyone else's.

 

That... isn't true. At least it's not entirely true.

 

Critical opinion, and the ability to critique, isn't just whether you think something is good or bad, it's also your ability to analyze various factors involved in the construction of the thing and to break it down in the context of those contributing factors. Actual critics are experts in film studies, and that will show. The likes of Roger Ebert or Owen Glieberman definitely do have a more nuanced and understanding opinion than most people will bring to viewing a movie.

 

Now, that doesn't discount the fact that opinions are still subjective, and so whether an expert critic thinks a film is good or not doesn't mean any given person will feel the same. And that's perfectly fine.

 

The problem with Rotten Tomatoes is twofold. First, the attempt to break down subjective opinions to a simple number is going to strip out pretty much all nuance. This would be true no matter how the score is determined.

 

Second, RT makes no distinction between expert critics and run-of-the-mill bloggers beyond the top critic distinction. So any understanding of expert opinion is removed. (There are some interesting historical reasons for this.)

 

So, all in all, any meta-analysis like RT or Metacritic is going to be fraught with problems because it's an attempt to apply measured objectivity to an ultimately subjective enterprise. It doesn't mean it's without use, but there's grains of salt to apply. It's a little better than CinemaScore, but don't take them as absolutes.

 

Best suggestion: find a small number of critics you personally respect (not necessarily agree with, but understand) and just follow them. Once you understand their nuance, you'll get a better read on how their opinions will be in relation to yours.

[Aplandg]

Something like this?

[cozmeesah]

Just got back from my showing. Was just about sold out and audience seemed to love it. Laughs at appropriate parts, excitement & good reactions. Quite a bit of applause at the end. Which isn't very typical around here, even with fandom movies.

[Kalo]

Something like this?

 

"It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere, not like here, here everything is soft.. and smooth.."

[Klingo]

"It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere, not like here, here everything is soft.. and smooth.."

Thats a better dialogue. 

[Mojoguy]

Whoa, look how BUSY this Friday topic is! Did a HUGE movie just come out?!

[mredman]

well we don't know any new things yet

[The Futurist]

Well, anyway since we ve become BOT, we lost a lot of posters in the transition ...

[Walt Disney]

Well, anyway since we ve become BOT, we lost a lot of posters in the transition ...

 

Which is interesting considering that BoxOffice.com links directly to this site from theirs. So, everyone who used to get to the forum from BoxOffice.com still can.

[Mojoguy]

Which is interesting considering that BoxOffice.com links directly to this site from theirs. So, everyone who used to get to the forum from BoxOffice.com still can.

Also screen names and passwords are still the same.

[ecstasy]

Well, anyway since we ve become BOT, we lost a lot of posters in the transition ...

How many did we lose?

[lab276]

Surely if people were lost it's because they weren't so engaged in the first place.

[TalismanRing]

Also screen names and passwords are still the same.

 

And it even automatically re-directs for the old forum url

[Dementeleus]

"Time counts and keeps countin', and we knows now finding the trick of what's been and lost ain't no easy ride. But that's our trek, we gotta travel it. And there ain't nobody knows where it's gonna lead. Still in all, every night we does the tell, so that we 'member who we was and where we came from... but most of all we 'members the man that finded us, him that came the salvage. And we lights the city, not just for him, but for all of them that are still out there. 'Cause we knows there come a night, when they sees the distant light, and they'll be comin' home."

[zackzack]

Dat Avengers effect. Everything else seems..so dull, uninspired, just plain Dat Avengers curse.

Everybody's saving money so that they can watch Avengers 10 times in a row during opening weekends.