Kalo Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Not all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Clones don't really count since they are always covered up in their armour. The only time you see a clone with his helmet off is Cody in RotS, it's for like 20 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmac Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) As a negro, I am against diversity for diversity sake even if it means more black actors. It's condescending. I'm usually thinking, "oh, you made this character black to fill a diversity quota or to attract an expanded audience." It extends to gender as well. "That 100-lb woman can take out 3 guys simultaneously". Really? The main cast of the LOTR remake (wink) should be white. Superman should be white. James Bond should always be male. Wonder Woman should always be female. Don't patronize me. With that said, it's hard to argue with the economic impact if done right (Fast n Furious). Edited April 22, 2015 by lilmac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 As a negro, I am against diversity for diversity sake even if it means more black actors. It's condescending. I'm usually thinking, "oh, you made this character black to fill a diversity quota or to attract an expanded audience." It extends to gender as well. "That 100-lb woman can take out 3 guys simultaneously". Really? The main cast of the LOTR remake (wink) should be white. Superman should be white. James Bond should always be male. Wonder Woman should always be female. Don't patronize me. With that said, it's hard to argue with the economic impact if done right (Fast n Furious). Your post seems ignorant of one key thing, with quotes like "James Bond should always be male" and "Superman should always be white". It's possible to change an unimportant characteristic without doing it for diversity's sake. I think it'd be cool to have a female James Bond, not because it's "filling quotas", but because it would give an interesting and fresh perspective on a tired character. What if the perfect actor for Superman is black? There's a middle ground that you appear to be failing to see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashrendar44 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I read producers actually thought of turning James Bond into a female back then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Freak Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I read producers actually thought of turning James Bond into a female back then. Hopefully the upcoming Spy would be an interesting deconstruction when it comes to expected gender roles in the genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood26 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I still Laugh at people complaining about the Alice Eve thing being sexist. Like 75% of summer movies have women looking sexy. its one shot. She agreed to it, it's obviously not a big deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I still Laugh at people complaining about the Alice Eve thing being sexist. Like 75% of summer movies have women looking sexy. its one shot. She agreed to it, it's obviously not a big deal. Doesn't matter that she agreed to it, the film still treats men characters and women characters differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood26 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Every hollywood movie is sexist. Fast, Transformers, Man Of Steel is the first superman movie to show him shirtless, why? For story? No because they want too. Why is Channing Tatum Shirtless half of Jupitar Acseding? Because he's a sexy guy and a celebrity. It's the movies!!!! Seeing sexy people look sexy is kinda a given. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I still Laugh at people complaining about the Alice Eve thing being sexist. Like 75% of summer movies have women looking sexy. its one shot. She agreed to it, it's obviously not a big deal. It's not the fact that she looks sexy, and it's not really that big of deal to me, it's that her character had no development and very little personality and her only purpose seemed to be eye candy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Jay, arguing that Hollywood isn't traditionally (or currently) sexist in how it depicts women (a large amount of the time) is a losing proposition. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood26 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) Jay, arguing that Hollywood isn't traditionally (or currently) sexist in how it depicts women (a large amount of the time) is a losing proposition. That's why my post says Hollywood is sexist. I mean 90% of movies are... It's kinda a hollywood given. It's been around since the begining. It just seems funny to me of all the movies, STID gets a lot of sexist hate for one shot. Edited April 22, 2015 by Jay Hollywood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood26 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I mean Furious 7 has 20 vagina shots, is it sexist yes, but th complaints aren't really there because it's all part of the fun, part of the winking at the camera.... That's movies, racing against time, saying the perfect line and being sexy. It's pop culture. I'd argue the music industry as a whole is more sexist, but that's another day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I mean Furious 7 has 20 vagina shots, is it sexist yes, but th complaints aren't really there because it's all part of the fun, part of the winking at the camera.... But ST isn't about winking at the camera; it wants to be taken seriously. I imagine Nolan would get a lot of heat if he did that with Anne Hathaway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I mean Furious 7 has 20 vagina shots, is it sexist yes, but th complaints aren't really there because it's all part of the fun, part of the winking at the camera.... That's movies, racing against time, saying the perfect line and being sexy. It's pop culture. I'd argue the music industry as a whole is more sexist, but that's another day. Just because things are the way they are doesn't mean we shouldn't push for them to be a bit different. (You're also equating "sexy" with "sexism", and they're really very different things.) But I'm digressing, of course. Back to a galaxy far, far away. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Wang Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 That's why my post says Hollywood is sexist. I mean 90% of movies are... It's kinda a hollywood given. It's been around since the begining. It just seems funny to me of all the movies, STID gets a lot of sexist hate for one shot. Just because Hollywood is traditionally sexist doesn't make it okay though today though. All movies are a reflection of their time, and there was a time that that was just kinda what happened and nobody really cared because that's the way it's always been. I was given the Bond 50 Blu-ray set to me for my birthday and my God, the Connery movies are astounding in the sexism(the beginning of Goldfinger!). Should I hate those movies because of that? No. To me that's the way the world was then and I can't do anything about that now. The shot in Star Trek Into Darkness was just them finding a way to get a hot woman in her underwear. It shouldn't have happened the way it did. They could have found a logical reason for her to strip down and not make it so skeevy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood26 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 But ST isn't about winking at the camera; it wants to be taken seriously. I imagine Nolan would get a lot of heat if he did that with Anne Hathaway. Star Treks tone is far less serious than TDK. Plus you are missing my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood26 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 What's the logical reason Half the action stars are shirtless half of there movies for a scene? It's the same thing (not saying it doesnt happen to women more). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 lol people still complaining about that one shot in Star Trek Into Darkness. That movie also showed off Chris Pine's body so both males and females got eye candy in that movie. There is no problem there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Wang Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 (You're also equating "sexy" with "sexism", and they're really very different things.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
