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[That One Girl]

1 minute ago, iJackSparrow said:

They sit on Deadpool for almost one decade and just gave a green light because Reynolds leaked the test footage. Yeah, they are cheap - and dumb - as fuck. 

 

Yes, they were cheap when Rothman was reigning over them.  But they've since been freed from him and now they're one of the best studios

[Jonwo]

6 minutes ago, That Floating Guy said:

 

Yes, they were cheap when Rothman was reigning over them.  But they've since been freed from him and now they're one of the best studios

Rothman's now at Sony and it's showing.

[Fancyarcher]

4 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

I've been critical of SPA but that's because I know they can do better and releasing mediocre or bad animated films will hurt them in the long run. 

 

Warner Bros have made great films as well as crap films, no studio has the perfect streak. 

True dat, even a studio as young and seemingly as desperate as Lionsgate has a few winners too. These studios are just that, studios. Some are going to be better managed then others.

[ZattMurdock]

11 minutes ago, That Floating Guy said:

 

Yes, they were cheap when Rothman was reigning over them.  But they've since been freed from him and now they're one of the best studios

 

5 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

Rothman's now at Sony and it's showing.

That's a thing that we all can agree with. Rothman made Fox one of the worst studios for years, and save to stuff that Sony isn't messing hands on - Spider-Man: Homecoming, Baby Driver - everything else looks like a freaking mess and overbudget mess waiting to bomb: Venom and Silver and Black comes to mind. Hell, Miles Morales animation too. 

[Rorschach]

1. Disney

2. Warner Bros. 

3. Universal

4. Fox

5. Paramount

6. Sony

[ZattMurdock]

4 minutes ago, Rorschach said:

1. Disney

2. Warner Bros. 

3. Universal

4. Fox

5. Paramount

6. Sony

Agreed.

[WrathOfHan]

1. Fox: Definitely the best of the big six at the moment. They make a wide variety of adult blockbusters, most of which are pretty damn good! If we want to include Searchlight, that only sweetens the deal.

2. Universal: Obviously I'm no fan of Illumination, but the rest of their slate is very diverse. They also have the most prolific horror flicks most of the time thanks to Blumhouse. Again, Focus sweetens the deal further.

3. Disney: I don't like how much they've shifted into franchise mode, but when the MCU puts out good movies (albeit cookie cutter in most cases) and the animated branches can produce fantastic films, I can't complain a whole lot.

4. Warner Bros: Their biggest drawback is that they release WAAAAAAAY too many movies. Maybe if they had some better quality control they'd be ahead of Disney, but they made 2 of my bottom 10 this year so far and HALF of my bottom 10 last year. They usually have one film that places close to or in my Top 10 and a lot of filler in the middle.

5. Paramount: They produce some really great dramas at the end of the year, but the rest of their slate is a mess. Hopefully Gianopoulos can bring the studio back to its glory days.

6. Sony: Yeah, these guys are the punching bag of the big six for a reason. SPC isn't a strong indie branch either.

[Jonwo]

13 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

4. Warner Bros: Their biggest drawback is that they release WAAAAAAAY too many movies. Maybe if they had some better quality control they'd be ahead of Disney, but they made 2 of my bottom 10 this year so far and HALF of my bottom 10 last year. They usually have one film that places close to or in my Top 10 and a lot of filler in the middle.

Warner Bros releases a lot of films because of their ownership of New Line Cinema. New Line releases 5-10 movies in any given year. 

[YM!]

1.) Fox

2.) Universal

3.) Disney/WB 

4.) Paramount

5.) Lionsgate

6.) Sony

[YM!]

22 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

3. Disney: I don't like how much they've shifted into franchise mode, but when the MCU puts out good movies (albeit cookie cutter in most cases) and the animated branches can produce fantastic films, I can't complain a whole lot.

^^^ This.

[ZattMurdock]

Disney needs to bring Touchstone back. That I can agree with. 

Edited August 20, 2017 by iJackSparrow

[Barnack]

1 minute ago, iJackSparrow said:

Disney needs to bring Touchstone back. That I can agree with. 

It was a pure stamp/logo without any employee or building, not sure how relevant is existence was or would be now.

[ZattMurdock]

Just now, Barnack said:

It was a pure stamp/logo without any employee or building, not sure how relevant is existence was or would be now.

It was their more "adult" studio. I think they need a branch like that, it could be either that or Miramax, but they need an "adult" branch, that's the studio's biggest setback next to others, regardless how much they are leading when it comes to box office. 

[That One Girl]

1. Fox

2. Warner

3. Universal

4. Paramount

5. Lionsgate

6. Sony

7. Strapping a bomb to your chest

8. Disney

[Barnack]

1 minute ago, iJackSparrow said:

It was their more "adult" studio. I think they need a branch like that, it could be either that or Miramax, but they need an "adult" branch, that's the studio's biggest setback next to others, regardless how much they are leading when it comes to box office. 

But it was not a studio or a branch, purely a logo, no employee was working for touchstone, no physical location existed for touchstone, it was purely an acura/honda, toyota/lexus type of things to not have parents piss off at disney from time to time:

 

It was not really a thing for a long time:

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1001039/000100103907000090/filename1.htm

Moreover, Touchstone is not a separate and distinct business operation but a brand used in the marketing and distribution of live-action films that are generally geared toward a more adult audience (e.g. PG-13 rated) than those released under the Disney-brand. Touchstone-branded films are produced and released using the same infrastructure support and the same operating assets (e.g. production facilities, distribution network, etc.) as the Company’s other film brands (e.g. Walt Disney Pictures and Miramax Films). The only significant assets that relate exclusively to Touchstone are capitalized film costs. These costs are accounted for in accordance with SOP 00-2, Accounting by Producers or Distributors of Films (SOP 00-2) on a title by title basis and evaluated for indicators of impairment quarterly. Impairments are determined as the excess of a film’s carrying cost over its fair value based on future estimated cash flows.

 

They were an accounting device/pure branding device.

 

Very very different than a Miramax, that was 100% independently run without any intervention of Disney that was simply releasing most of their R-rated or less movies.

 

By the success they are having I'm not sure they need something like that (it is more a we want it type of thing), the strict specialisation in kids/family movie only they made is working great for them.

 

 

 

 

[Johnny Tran]

1 hour ago, That Floating Guy said:

Alright now that it's passed it I guess I can say my #hottake: Wonder Woman is a great movie but I'd rather it not have passed Spider-Man cause Spider-Man is the OG CBM and one of the best movies of all time and I love the shit out of it

There's already terrible cbm like IM3 that far surpassed it's WW total so I'm fine with something good passing it.

[That One Girl]

8 minutes ago, Johnny Tran said:

There's already terrible cbm like IM3 that far surpassed it's WW total so I'm fine with something good passing it.

 

Did you just call Iron Man 3 a bad movie?

[Johnny Tran]

Just now, That Floating Guy said:

 

Did you just call Iron Man 3 a bad movie?

Yes if that's a problem for you that's fine, everyone has an opinion, some you will disagree with.

[That One Girl]

Just now, Johnny Tran said:

Yes if that's a problem for you that's fine, everyone has an opinion, some you will disagree with.

 

[AndyK]

1 hour ago, That Floating Guy said:

 

Did you just call Iron Man 3 a bad movie?

Pretty much everybody has called IM3 a bad movie.