Aristis Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 On 7.1.2017 at 2:38 AM, Aristis said: At least $475M + $430M ($32M from China) = $910M. But that would be the worst case. Maybe more like $480M + $435M ($35M) = $915M $500M OS will be passed It seems they updatet RO at BOM (only OS): 7 Rogue One: A Star Wars Story BV $898.5 $461.4 51.3% $437.1 48.7% With $476M DOM it should be at $913M. And it seems my $32M from China were still too optimistic The rest of the OS country did better though 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Gitesh Pandya @GiteshPandya1 minute ago $31M China opening wknd for #RogueOne. $76.6M global wknd. New totals $477.3M dom, $437.1M intl, $914.4M global. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FantasticBeasts Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) The Internationa Number is at 437m. With another 30 m from China it will go to 470m. 500m feels good. Edited January 8, 2017 by FantasticBeasts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Exhibitor Relations @ERCboxoffice 36s36 seconds ago ROGUE ONE top int'l outposts: UK ($73M) GER ($41M) FRA ($33M) OZ ($32M) JPN ($31M) CHN ($31M) ESP ($15M) BRZ ($14M) RUS ($11M) ITA ($10M) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, terrestrial said: Gitesh Pandya @GiteshPandya1 minute ago $31M China opening wknd for #RogueOne. $76.6M global wknd. New totals $477.3M dom, $437.1M intl, $914.4M global. didn't TFA make $31m in it's first day, at this rate R1 actually make more DOM than OS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, IronJimbo said: didn't TFA make $31m in it's first day, at this rate R1 actually make more DOM than OS. Yep, it did. terrible opening for R1 in China. The market truly rejected SW brand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FantasticBeasts Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, IronJimbo said: didn't TFA make $31m in it's first day, at this rate R1 actually make more DOM than OS. That's guarranteed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, terrestrial said: Exhibitor Relations @ERCboxoffice 36s36 seconds ago ROGUE ONE top int'l outposts: UK ($73M) GER ($41M) FRA ($33M) OZ ($32M) JPN ($31M) CHN ($31M) ESP ($15M) BRZ ($14M) RUS ($11M) ITA ($10M) What happened in Germany and Japan? I thought TFA made loads more there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 9 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said: That's guarranteed. It's honestly surprising, I wonder how this will effect sws 8's gross. If the OS % stays around 50% I can see it making less than The Avengers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynosure Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) This is the fourth consecutive time I believe that DOM and OS year end #1s will be different. 2016 : Rogue One DOM, Civil War OS 2015 : TFA DOM, Furious 7 OS 2014 : American Sniper DOM, Transformer 4 OS 2013 : Catching Fire DOM, Frozen OS The last movie to top both the DOM box-office and the OS box-office was The Avengers in 2012. As SW VIII is likely to be the #1 DOM in 2017, the only question is if it will be able to win the #1 OS crown as well ? Edited January 8, 2017 by Cynosure 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FantasticBeasts Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 16 minutes ago, IronJimbo said: It's honestly surprising, I wonder how this will effect sws 8's gross. If the OS % stays around 50% I can see it making less than The Avengers. Well that may be an overstatement. I agree that SW8's Dom to OS will be 50-50 but it will still easily gross +1.5m even so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said: Well that may be an overstatement. I agree that SW8's Dom to OS will be 50-50 but it will still easily gross +1.5m even so. is saying "I can see it making less than 750m Dom" an overstatement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FantasticBeasts Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 minute ago, IronJimbo said: is saying "I can see it making less than 750m Dom" an overstatement? Well no it's not you are right. But still I believe that +750m is the most possible outcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, Cynosure said: This is the fourth consecutive time I believe that DOM and OS year end #1s will be different. 2016 : Rogue One DOM, Civil War OS 2015 : TFA DOM, Furious 7 OS 2014 : American Sniper DOM, Transformer 4 OS 2013 : Catching Fire DOM, Frozen OS The last movie to top both the DOM box-office and the OS box-office was The Avengers in 2012. As SW VIII is likely to be the #1 DOM in 2017, the only question is if it will be able to win the #1 OS crown as well ? Damn lets take a moment to appreciate how poor blockbusters have been these last few years. Only Frozen and American Sniper were good, but where was Americans Snipers competition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Just now, FantasticBeasts said: Well no it's not you are right. But still I believe that +750m is the most possible outcome. Never disagreed with that! I think 800-850 is the range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Can we speculate the reasons why Rogue One is doing so poorly overseas. I'll go first and apply Occam's razors, overseas didn't like TFA as much as the online reviews claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hw64 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, IronJimbo said: Can we speculate the reasons why Rogue One is doing so poorly overseas. I'll go first and apply Occam's razors, overseas didn't like TFA as much as the online reviews claim. This isn't anything out of the ordinary tbh, it's just how modern Star Wars films perform overseas. It's doing very well in the UK, well in France, Australia, Germany and Japan, and poorly in China, South Korea, Italy, Russia, Spain, etc. There aren't really many surprises - nothing's really changed from TFA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoft Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, IronJimbo said: It's honestly surprising, I wonder how this will effect sws 8's gross. If the OS % stays around 50% I can see it making less than The Avengers. I think EP8 will make less than Avengers WW, provided that the US dollar doesn't suddenly collapse within a year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 22 minutes ago, hw64 said: This isn't anything out of the ordinary tbh, it's just how modern Star Wars films perform overseas. It's doing very well in the UK, well in France, Australia, Germany and Japan, and poorly in China, South Korea, Italy, Russia, Spain, etc. There aren't really many surprises - nothing's really changed from TFA. Of course things have changed from TFA. While the markets in itself are clearly split in the same way as before, with those markets that were exposed to Star Wars back in the days delivering, while those that weren't being modest at best, the performance in the common markets still was decidedly different from what was normal for Star Wars. Rogue One clearly didn't start like a normal Star Wars movie did. Just look at what TFA or the prequels did in countries like France or Germany. Those starts were significantly ahead of what Rogue One delivered. Spain or Italy where hardly bad markets for TFA. Italy wasn't exactly huge, but TFA was still the biggest movie of the year 2015 in terms of Euro, and it was decidedly bigger than any movie but the record-setting local movie this year. TFA was basically 10m Euro ahead of what the biggest foreign movie delivered this year, which is quite a huge difference when it comes to the amounts that get made in Italy. In Spain it got to 6th place alltime in terms of Euro, which was quite a lot more than any movie made this year as well. The drop between TFA and Rogue One isn't really any different in Italy or Spain than it was in other European markets. The idea that Rogue One dropped so much because "people didn't like TFA as much as some have claimed", like Iron Jimbo claims, is absurd though. It has little to do with this. This movie clearly wasn't considered part of the main storyline, that's why the movie wasn't as big. Just looking at the openings of the latest Star Wars movies in Germany tells you exactly that people didn't treat this like a regular episode. Episode I started with 1.79m admissions, II with 1.85m, III with 1.96m, VII with 2.14m, Rogue One with 1m. If mixed receptions couldn't cause any of the prequels to start with less, then TFA most definately didn't cause any drop. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, hw64 said: There aren't really many surprises - nothing's really changed from TFA. I think you mean the % perr country in rough terms of the whole of OS per film and not admissions or $ ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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