Black Widow | July 9 2021 | ScarJo secures the bag from Disney

[ThomasNicole]

Just now, Menor said:

I find it weird that some reviews are taking the timing of release as mark against the film. Yeah ideally it would have come out earlier but I don't think that should affect its overall quality.

I don't think the quality is affected, but it's harder to care about the character or buy the story knowing the inevitable end for her on Endgame. It's always tricky to work with characters that people already know the end.

 

I bet people are so in love with Florence character on the reviews exactly because of that, her future is open.

[Valonqar]

32 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

 

And see, for Disney, that would probably be the worst reaction to get - if you're not gonna get good-to-great reviews, "so bad you have to see it" is better than "it's okay, but you can pass", especially for a prequel movie...

 

Only reviews but Marvel is review-proof. Audience will understand it's actually the first movie in Yelena series. 

[Cap]

91% with 47 Review is not mixed, Twitter.

 

Did Twitter lie to me?

 

 

 

Anyway, Good.  F9 was a good first start to rebooting the box office.  We need Widow to keep the momentum going.  

[Menor the Destroyer]

8 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:

I don't think the quality is affected, but it's harder to care about the character or buy the story knowing the inevitable end for her on Endgame. It's always tricky to work with characters that people already know the end.

 

I bet people are so in love with Florence character on the reviews exactly because of that, her future is open.

Yeah but does anyone watch MCU solo films and really think that the character's fate is in doubt? The heroes will never be killed outside of ensemble films anyway.

 

[MrPink]

4 minutes ago, Cap said:

91% with 47 Review is not mixed, Twitter.

 

Did Twitter lie to me?

 

 

 

Anyway, Good.  F9 was a good first start to rebooting the box office.  We need Widow to keep the momentum going.  

 

By Marvel's standards, mixed still means like 80%+

Edited June 29, 2021 by MrPink

[Madhuvan]

Now , I just hope this is not a Wonder Woman situation.

Anything over 80+ is excellent for movie of this type. 

[Valonqar]

89% from 53 reviews

 

The "10 years too late, inconsequential" seem to be the main gripe but general agreement is that it does justice to Nat, dynamic between main characters is great, action is great, Johansson/Pugh/Harbour are great, lots of humor that works, lots of heart. basically your generic positive reviews. 

[Krissykins]

10 minutes ago, Madhuvan said:

Now , I just hope this is not a Wonder Woman situation.

Anything over 80+ is excellent for movie of this type. 

Following WW84, Black Widow still has another 369 reviews to be added. 

[grey ghost]

People say critics are too nice to Marvel but they specialize in crowd pleasers so it's no surprise critics enjoy them.

 

Marvel uses a formula but it's a winning formula.

[Krissykins]

Just now, grey ghost said:

People say critics are too nice to Marvel but they specialize in crowd pleasers so it's no surprise critics enjoy them.

 

Marvel uses a formula but it's a winning formula.

Apparently this one breaks away from the formula  

[grey ghost]

At what number of reviews do WW84 start tanking?

[john2000]

1 minute ago, Krissykins said:

Following WW84, Black Widow still has another 369 reviews to be added. 

Um following every movie ever,almost all movie drop and rise as the reviews keep adding its nothing new ,in any case i doubt that this movie goes rotten

[MrPink]

I wasn't making a slight against Marvel, just that a more mixed reaction on Twitter is more in comparison to it own siblings in the MCU. But since pretty much all but two Marvel films have solid to strong reviews, it's still going to review well.

[grey ghost]

1 minute ago, Krissykins said:

Apparently this one breaks away from the formula  

 

Can you explain how in a spoiler free way?

[Krissykins]

Just now, john2000 said:

Um following every movie ever,almost all movie drop and rise as the reviews keep adding its nothing new ,in any case i doubt that this movie goes rotten

I know, which is why there’s a long way to go before it settles. 

[ThomasNicole]

Just now, grey ghost said:

At what number of reviews do WW84 start tanking?

After 100

 

Still, highly doubt we'll see anything crazy like this again soon.

 

 

 

 

[TwoMisfits]

18 minutes ago, Menor said:

Yeah but does anyone watch MCU solo films and really think that the character's fate is in doubt? The heroes will never be killed outside of ensemble films anyway.

 

 

True, but this character literally can't be injured or scarred in any way, either.  She needs to show up with 2 arms, 2 legs, 2 eyes, and a perfect complexion in time for Endgame...

 

That does reduce the stakes for a character, especially one with no super healing or invulnerability...threats to her PC are just less likely to be taken with any seriousness by the audience...

[Krissykins]

1 minute ago, grey ghost said:

 

Can you explain how in a spoiler free way?

I haven’t seen it, but Hollywood Reporter said it breaks away from the usual stuff we’ve seen from Marvel. 

[john2000]

Just now, Krissykins said:

I know, which is why there’s a long way to go before it settles. 

it usually slows down when the film has 150 reviews or so, bw already has 62

[TwoMisfits]

3 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

At what number of reviews do WW84 start tanking?

 

I think it was 70ish b/c folks talked about if it would be certified fresh or not...