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Weekend #s June 3-5: TMNT2 35.25m, X:A 22.3m, MBY 18.27m, Alice 10.69m, Birds 9.775m

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2 hours ago, The Futurist said:

The Think Pieces are coming, the think pieces are coming ...

 

As I already said, everything is set for Suicide Squad to break out, if it s good, it will be seen as the only fresh blockbuster of the summer after a string of disapointing, redundant sequels.

 

My Club is fucked.

 

:ohmyzod:

 

Unless it's a disaster, in which it could open well, but have terrible legs, so typical DC basically.

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2 hours ago, La Binoche said:

 

She is, in the right role (like all movie stars). 

 

So basically she's a draw with the right concept, like all actors and films nowadays. Makes sense.

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5 minutes ago, Daniel Dylan Davis said:

 

So basically she's a draw with the right concept, like all actors and films nowadays. Makes sense.

 

That s always been true tho, all movie stars had a comfort zone and a type of roles they were known for, even before the franchise age, nothing has really changed fundamentally IMO.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, filmnerdjamie said:

Said it before, say it again.

 

ID4 2 was fucked the moment Will Smith didn't come back (Regardless of how he's alienated general audiences with that sore loser/cry baby bullshit he pulled with his wife about the Oscars, his bratty kids and the Scientology association). Would be like not having Harrison Ford in The Force Awakens. Can't fathom $300M gross there.

Thank you. Anecdotal, but I was at a Superbowl movie when the spot played, and the immediate reaction from almost everyone there (all casual movie folks) was "Where's Will Smith??" Since then, this is the common reaction I've been hearing from almost everyone when I talk about this movie. Sure, he's not as big a draw in general, but in this movie, in the right role, he would have been. Seriously think it will chop like 75m off the gross. Big Willie's fallen off, but he's still an icon. It'd be like doing a Top Gun 2 with only Val Kilmer and Kelly McGillis. 

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6 minutes ago, The Futurist said:

 

That s always been true tho, all movie stars had a comfort zone and a type of roles they were known for, even before the franchise age, nothing has really changed fundamentally IMO.

 

 

 

Yeah, but there used to be actors who could be successful in various genres like drama or comedy. Nowadays that seems to be less of a case, largely thanks to social media.

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Is the number for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles really that bad? The last one opened in August this one is opening in June when schools are still in. Isn't this primarily a kids movie. Arer numbers really expect it to be that big on a Thursday night?

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2 minutes ago, The Futurist said:

But, but, Cool Big Willie has kinda died, no ?

He was still one of the most memorable parts about the original Independence Day. He might have actually been worth $50m to the new production.

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Just now, filmlover said:

Didn't they say Will was "too expensive" for the movie? LMAO this motherfuckin' Independence Day 2, not some obscure indie drama.

 

Unless he wanted Jaden to play his son and they were like "fuck it."

I think Baden would fit right in as an alien

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3 minutes ago, Baumer said:

Is the number for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles really that bad? The last one opened in August this one is opening in June when schools are still in. Isn't this primarily a kids movie. Arer numbers really expect it to be that big on a Thursday night?

There probably isn't much of a difference between the second weekend of August (when some schools begin to go back) and the first weekend of June (when all schools still in session are finishing up).

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As much as people talk about Independence Day as "destruction porn,' if you go back and watch the original (as I do every 4th of July without fail, no shame), it really isn't just mindless shit blowing up in epic fashion. The first act is built in the way of a slow-burn sci fi chiller, which gives way to the iconic pop imagery of the spaceships over the monuments. But there isn't some epic CGI destruction fest- it takes iconic, easily identifiable shots and turns them into a horror show using clear, concise purpose. That's what doesn't excite me about the new trailers- sure, lots of shit seems to be blowing up, and the scale is bigger. But there's no imagery that really stands out. It's just a bunch of buildings falling over, not the iconic hovering over the monuments motiff or the suspenseful build up to the aliens finally saying "hello". It looks closer to what he did with 2012 or Day After Tomorrow than Independence Day, which is much more sci-fi/conspiracy thriller/action comedy than destruction porn. I hope to be proven wrong, but eh. 

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10 minutes ago, filmlover said:

There probably isn't much of a difference between the second weekend of August (when some schools begin to go back) and the first weekend of June (when all schools still in session are finishing up).

 

? Most schools do not go back at all in August or at least in the early part of August. And yet all schools are in right now. If I'm wrong I'm wrong but there's no way Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles opens up to 25 million or less.

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TMNT2 is going to open with half of the first one here (and the first one only opened here in the last weekend of October 2014!), it is sinking so hard it might only open in 3rd behind X-Men's 3rd weekend lol. 

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The first Tmnt largely benefitted from being the last big picture of summer 2014 and an empty August to early September. Wonder if GOTG2 might also suffer somewhat because of similar issues.

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