Weekend Thread | Official Estimates: Moana - 55.5/81.1M; Fantastic Beasts - 45.1M; Doctor Strange - 13.4M; Allied - 13/18M; Arrival - 11.3M; Trolls - 10.3M; Bad Santa 2 - 6.1/9M

[WrathOfHan]

Roadside better get Manchester in theaters while there's a drought.

Edited November 28, 2016 by WrathOfHan

[Jake Gittes]

1 minute ago, That One Guy said:

 

There was a missed opportunity for Sony to re-release Sausage Party on Thanksgiving.

 

It would have been pretty priceless to watch it expand again and then run out of gas again at 99m

[That One Girl]

1 minute ago, Jake Gittes said:

 

It would have been pretty priceless to watch it expand again and then run out of gas again at 99m

 

Sony would 100% fudge it if it reached 99M.

[Jake Gittes]

2 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

 

Sony would 100% fudge it if it reached 99M.

 

And 100% of us here would have a great laugh looking at it. But anyway it seems they stopped tracking it a few weeks ago at 97.7m.

[That One Girl]

1 minute ago, Jake Gittes said:

 

And 100% of us here would have a great laugh looking at it. But anyway it seems they stopped tracking it a few weeks ago at 97.7m.

 

I remember when Spectre reached 200M.  Best weekend ever.

[grey ghost]

2 hours ago, grim22 said:

 

And we will never know about accurate marketing budgets ever. Not just because studios spend a lot on marketing but also because now movies are no longer marketed just by the studio. Bond brings in over 100M worth of marketing partners, Angry Birds this year spent $400M on marketing - but less than 100M of that was actually spent by the studio as >300M was by the marketing partners including McDonalds and the like. Man of Steel had $160M in marketing tie-ins. Minions holds the record with almost 600M worth of marketing being done by partners. At such high figures, it is impossible for us to say how much the producers and the studio themselves invested in the marketing and how much they need to recover.

 

But isn't there a minimum marketing budget so that when a movie doesn't make a certain amount we can safely assume it was a flop?

 

If Gambit makes 200 m WW with a budget of 175 m not including marketing, it's safe to assume it flopped, right? Since the theater keeps 30-55% of the 200 m WW gross and the marketing cost something beyond the 175 m budget.

 

Edit: Sorry if my question is confusing.

Edited November 28, 2016 by grey ghost

[Jake Gittes]

1 minute ago, That One Guy said:

 

I remember when Spectre reached 200M.  Best weekend ever.

 

I'm partial to Tangled

 

May 13–15	82	$6,351	+18.9%	9	-8	$706	$199,714,630	25
May 20–22	12	$910,502	+14,236%	191	+182	$4,767	$200,627,301	26
May 27–29	32	$131,938	-85.5%	34	-157	$3,881	$200,803,309	27

[That One Girl]

1 minute ago, Jake Gittes said:

 

I'm partial to Tangled

 

May 13–15	82	$6,351	+18.9%	9	-8	$706	$199,714,630	25
May 20–22	12	$910,502	+14,236%	191	+182	$4,767	$200,627,301	26
May 27–29	32	$131,938	-85.5%	34	-157	$3,881	$200,803,309	27

 

LMFAO HOLY SHIT.

[grey ghost]

9 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

 

There was a missed opportunity for Sony to re-release Sausage Party on Thanksgiving.

 

Do re-releases ever work close to the original run?

 

 

[That One Girl]

Spectre's run was also hilarious too.  It went sub-1M on December 25 weekend and was slowly dragged through the rest of its run until it reached 200M.

[Jonwo]

2 hours ago, grim22 said:

And we will never know about accurate marketing budgets ever. Not just because studios spend a lot on marketing but also because now movies are no longer marketed just by the studio. Bond brings in over 100M worth of marketing partners, Angry Birds this year spent $400M on marketing - but less than 100M of that was actually spent by the studio as >300M was by the marketing partners including McDonalds and the like. Man of Steel had $160M in marketing tie-ins. Minions holds the record with almost 600M worth of marketing being done by partners. At such high figures, it is impossible for us to say how much the producers and the studio themselves invested in the marketing and how much they need to recover.

 

Bond is mostly premium brands and I suspect they get a big boost in sales when a new Bond film is released so it's worth partnering it with EON. 

[grey ghost]

5 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:

 

I'm partial to Tangled

 

May 13–15	82	$6,351	+18.9%	9	-8	$706	$199,714,630	25
May 20–22	12	$910,502	+14,236%	191	+182	$4,767	$200,627,301	26
May 27–29	32	$131,938	-85.5%	34	-157	$3,881	$200,803,309	27

 

Didn't Paramount fudge the Transformers series a couple times?

 

 

Edited November 28, 2016 by grey ghost

[Mr Terrific]

This Is The End jumped $100m domestic with a late re-expansion. 

[Jake Gittes]

1 minute ago, grey ghost said:

 

Didn't Paramount fudge the Transformers series a couple times?

 

 

 

Yes, the second and fourth movie, but both on OW.

 

Quote

* Note: Revenge of the Fallen's weekend gross fell $3 million short of Paramount's Sunday estimate, which would have put the five-day opening at $198.2 million. Though shy of $200 million, it would have still ranked second among the all time five-day starts. However, Paramount revised its grosses from Wednesday and Thursday upward, and that's what pushed the total past $200 million. Wednesday went from $60.6 million to $62.0 million, and Thursday went from $28.6 million to $29.1 million. Paramount reported that the differences came from unreported showings from the movie's midnight openings on Wednesday night, which went from the previously reported $16 million at around 3,000 theaters to $16.8 million at close to 3,300 theaters, as well as late reports from institutional IMAX locations and theaters in Puerto Rico and some Caribbean islands (which the studio counts in its domestic numbers), which accounted for $1.1 million of the difference.

 

[Poseidon]

8 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:

 

I'm partial to Tangled

 

May 13–15	82	$6,351	+18.9%	9	-8	$706	$199,714,630	25
May 20–22	12	$910,502	+14,236%	191	+182	$4,767	$200,627,301	26
May 27–29	32	$131,938	-85.5%	34	-157	$3,881	$200,803,309	27

 

Looks like they put it together with POTC4 for double features.

 

[Johnny Tran]

well well well..  quite the interesting week.  I've been out of the loop for a sec,  what do we think Beasts and Strange will finish with domestic and worldwide?

[filmlover]

15 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

Roadside better get Manchester in theaters while there's a drought.

I fully expect Focus to give Nocturnal Animals a wide push due to the drought, even though it's almost certain to flop if it does.

[Johnny Tran]

Also, I can't wait to get my ticket for RO tomorrow

[filmlover]

Hacksaw Ridge is on track for a $65M total. If Gibson wasn't still considered a pariah the leggy run might've been enough to give it serious Oscar attention.

[Ethan Hunt]

LMAO just realized Billy Lynn had the same number of showings as The Account did this weekend at my theatre