Weekend Thread | Official Estimates: Moana - 55.5/81.1M; Fantastic Beasts - 45.1M; Doctor Strange - 13.4M; Allied - 13/18M; Arrival - 11.3M; Trolls - 10.3M; Bad Santa 2 - 6.1/9M

[La Binoche]

16 hours ago, filmlover said:

All of this talk of director's and no one mentions Zemeckis rough run recently?

 

Haven't seen Allied yet (soon) but I'm actually kinda sad he is looking at two big misses in a row. Oh well, at least he's given us the closest thing to a Christmas classic this generation (The Polar Express) which will continue to make dough for many years to come.

 

He gave us Romancing the Stone, Back to the Future, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Death Becomes Her, Forrest Gump, Contact, Cast Away...and you single out The Polar Express? 

 

 

[Blankments]

13 hours ago, CoolioD1 said:

warren beatty is quite the egoist so finding out no one gives a shit about him any more must be a real hit. seriously one of the most forgotten a-listers of his era. NO ONE from my generation gives a shit about Warren Beatty. Newman, Nicholson, Redford etc y'know still get some love at least.

Helps that those other three are so much more talented than him. Saw Rules Don't Apply today and it was awful

 

Edge of Seventeen is really great tho

[grim22]

15 minutes ago, Wrath said:

 

"No, you don't understand. ITS GOING TO GET THERE."

 

Edit - Also, wow for FB. *Over* 45M? That's one rampantly badass hold right there. Pity about Moana. Hopefully the legs will be strong.

 

 

Wasn't following Tangled's run when it happened, so I looked it up and it took 3 and a half months for the last 7M. Disney really wanted that 200M mark

 

Feb 11–13	16	$813,849	-56.0%	784	-585	$1,038	$193,304,696	12
Feb 18–20	20	$534,351	-34.3%	389	-395	$1,374	$194,097,938	13
Feb 18–21	19	$743,090	-8.7%	389	-395	$1,910	$194,306,677	13
Feb 25–27	22	$421,474	-21.1%	337	-52	$1,251	$194,881,262	14
Mar 4–6	18	$790,248	+87.5%	421	+84	$1,877	$195,784,588	15
Mar 11–13	17	$640,753	-18.9%	363	-58	$1,765	$196,675,983	16
Mar 18–20	17	$616,057	-3.9%	334	-29	$1,844	$197,714,178	17
Mar 25–27	18	$550,994	-10.6%	301	-33	$1,831	$198,526,569	18
Apr 1–3	21	$336,339	-39.0%	276	-25	$1,219	$199,084,028	19
Apr 8–10	27	$220,670	-34.4%	239	-37	$923	$199,441,791	20
Apr 15–17	36	$85,574	-61.2%	184	-55	$465	$199,584,484	21
Apr 22–24	55	$31,368	-63.3%	80	-104	$392	$199,665,782	22
Apr 29–May 1	66	$16,475	-47.5%	48	-32	$343	$199,695,811	23
May 6–8	87	$5,343	-67.6%	17	-31	$314	$199,706,314	24
May 13–15	82	$6,351	+18.9%	9	-8	$706	$199,714,630	25
May 20–22	12	$910,502	+14,236%	191	+182	$4,767	$200,627,301	26

 

The only competition is Spectre which took about as long to get there for the last 6M. All other movies which were dragged across that mark took a max of 2-3 months.

[Jake Gittes]

2 hours ago, grim22 said:

 

Wasn't following Tangled's run when it happened, so I looked it up and it took 3 and a half months for the last 7M. Disney really wanted that 200M mark

 

Feb 11–13	16	$813,849	-56.0%	784	-585	$1,038	$193,304,696	12
Feb 18–20	20	$534,351	-34.3%	389	-395	$1,374	$194,097,938	13
Feb 18–21	19	$743,090	-8.7%	389	-395	$1,910	$194,306,677	13
Feb 25–27	22	$421,474	-21.1%	337	-52	$1,251	$194,881,262	14
Mar 4–6	18	$790,248	+87.5%	421	+84	$1,877	$195,784,588	15
Mar 11–13	17	$640,753	-18.9%	363	-58	$1,765	$196,675,983	16
Mar 18–20	17	$616,057	-3.9%	334	-29	$1,844	$197,714,178	17
Mar 25–27	18	$550,994	-10.6%	301	-33	$1,831	$198,526,569	18
Apr 1–3	21	$336,339	-39.0%	276	-25	$1,219	$199,084,028	19
Apr 8–10	27	$220,670	-34.4%	239	-37	$923	$199,441,791	20
Apr 15–17	36	$85,574	-61.2%	184	-55	$465	$199,584,484	21
Apr 22–24	55	$31,368	-63.3%	80	-104	$392	$199,665,782	22
Apr 29–May 1	66	$16,475	-47.5%	48	-32	$343	$199,695,811	23
May 6–8	87	$5,343	-67.6%	17	-31	$314	$199,706,314	24
May 13–15	82	$6,351	+18.9%	9	-8	$706	$199,714,630	25
May 20–22	12	$910,502	+14,236%	191	+182	$4,767	$200,627,301	26

 

The only competition is Spectre which took about as long to get there for the last 6M. All other movies which were dragged across that mark took a max of 2-3 months.

 

It could have gotten there beautifully without an obvious fudge too, if they released it on home video a few weeks later than before the April 1-3 weekend. It was holding on like a champ before then.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[terrestrial]

THR Box Office ‏@THRBoxOffice 5 minutes ago

'Your Name' Passes 'Princess Mononuke' to Become Third-Highest Grossing Japanese Film of All Time

Link to The Hollywood Reporter article

[goldenstate5]

5 hours ago, Wrath said:

 

"No, you don't understand. ITS GOING TO GET THERE."

 

Edit - Also, wow for FB. *Over* 45M? That's one rampantly badass hold right there. Pity about Moana. Hopefully the legs will be strong.

 

"Pity"

 

[FantasticBeasts]

Are we getting any Monday numbers soon ?

[filmlover]

6 hours ago, La Binoche said:

 

He gave us Romancing the Stone, Back to the Future, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Death Becomes Her, Forrest Gump, Contact, Cast Away...and you single out The Polar Express? 

 

 

It might be the closest of all of his movies to being a true license to print money annually, even moreso than even Back to the Future (the studio is gonna continue making a goldmine off of that movie for years to come) so he shouldn't feel bad about his more recent movies being ignored by moviegoers. 

 

The continued success of The Polar Express (still shows up on the bestselling DVD charts even though it's now a 12 year-old movie, the annual IMAX/public outdoor screenings, the broadcastings on the ABC-owned networks) is even more ironic considering it was written off as a collossal bomb after its opening weekend was less than half of the second weekend of The Incredibles on that same frame.

Edited November 28, 2016 by filmlover

[Arlborn]

21 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:

Are we getting any Monday numbers soon ?

Monday has just started.

 

What we are getting sometime today are the real Sunday numbers so we can know if the weekend estimates are completely accurate.

[FantasticBeasts]

1 minute ago, Arlborn said:

Monday has just started.

 

What we are getting sometime today are the real Sunday numbers so we can know if the weekend estimates are completely accurate.

Thank you. I am new here and I don't know how things work. Also the time difference with USA confuses me all the time.. So Monday estimates will come tommorow?

[Arlborn]

4 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:

Thank you. I am new here and I don't know how things work. Also the time difference with USA confuses me all the time.. So Monday estimates will come tommorow?

That's usually how it goes, yup. The time we get it depends on whether RTH or Empire City gives us early numbers or not. If they don't then we have to wait a bit longer.

[terrestrial]

13 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:

Thank you. I am new here and I don't know how things work. Also the time difference with USA confuses me all the time.. So Monday estimates will come tommorow?

Which time in relation to Greenwich 0h +/- do you live in?

I might be able to give you some pointers at which day in week (weekdays differ to weekend) you might find at which time for .... the actuals

[FantasticBeasts]

Just now, terrestrial said:

Which time in relation to Greenwich 0h +/- do you live in?

I might be able to give you some pointers at which day in week (weekdays differ to weekend) you might find at which time for .... the actuals

+1 Greenwich thank you a lot

[terrestrial]

2 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:

+1 Greenwich thank you a lot

=Paris/Berlin/Oslo/Kinshasa/...?

If yes:

weekdays the-Numbers start usually the fastest = when the first actual arrives.

It can vary, but for the moment the distributer 'Open Roads' is usually one of the first. That can be as early as e.g. 18:00 o'clock (sometimes even earlier). 

In the moment they add the first title, the new day appears if you use the ~ drop down like 'Box Office' - 'Daily' path you will see it.

For weekdays not docking to a public holiday counts: each title appearing on that chart (refresh) is the actual. Very rarely a distributer does not give an actual in time, then they might add an estimate instead = then the font colour is green (actual is black)

When you refresh repeatedly you will see:

the BO details appear per distributor. Be aware, if a distributor has some rather old/ now small holdovers it can take a few minutes till all appear.

Especially a few of the very small and rather big distributors tend to be late = between the first actuals and the last ones can be spent up to over 4 hours!

Starting around 19°° o'clock the bigger ones usually start... you will get a feel. It varies, when a new blockbuster ets released some distributors might start to give earlier than usual their new pride aehm BO details 

 

Weekend works a bit in another way:

the estimates chart already exists, when the actuals are dripping in.

They change the green written estimate to the black written actual within the same chart. Again, the change is per distributer releasing the datas, refresh a lot.

The time in day is earlier for the estimates during the weekend, the estimates can start around 16³° o'clock (+/-)

 

Public holidays ~ weekend, public holidays around the weekend - e.g. 4day / 5day weekend ) = usually estimates for the weekdays, but a few smaller distributors will still give actuals as if it would be a normal weekday.

 

In the past BoxOffice.com was often rather early and simply to find, but nowadays they seem to be a bit late with their number and a bit less nice for weekdays. But they provide social media charts,...

 

Mojo updates when all numbers are in, in one row, not step by step

 

You can follow also e.g. via twitter some accounts, they too give usually fast details, you can even do that without having an account, e.g. using a list of a twitter member that is BO orientated, for that too I could pm you a link. Examples are  Gitesh Pandya ,  Exhibitor Relations ,  The Numbers ,...

 

If I forgot something, please let me know per quote or pm me, then I should find it fast.

 

[cannastop]

1 hour ago, FantasticBeasts said:

Are we getting any Monday numbers soon ?

No.

[terrestrial]

@FantasticBeasts

I just realized: it depends on the browser if the estimates color is shown in green or not. With mozilla / no external datas alloed... it shows in green, with Opera... external data allowed the estimates sadly show up in black

 

edit

The times I mentioned are alays at the following day

Edited November 28, 2016 by terrestrial

[WrathOfHan]

We're 7-9 hours away from actuals.

[baumer]

2 hours ago, FantasticBeasts said:

Are we getting any Monday numbers soon ?

 

Probably get Monday numbers after Monday is over. Its 10am on east coast. Theaters arent open yet.

[Mango]

5 hours ago, Jake Gittes said:

 

It could have gotten there beautifully without an obvious fudge too, if they released it on home video a few weeks later than before the April 1-3 weekend. It was holding on like a champ before then.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Disney did the same thing with Frozen. That movie made like $2 million in theaters the weekend right before home video release. So the movie inched past $400 million instead of going on to beat TF2, SM1, and maybe even THG on the all time chart.

[Jake Gittes]

13 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

Disney did the same thing with Frozen. That movie made like $2 million in theaters the weekend right before home video release. So the movie inched past $400 million instead of going on to beat TF2, SM1, and maybe even THG on the all time chart.

 

THG was way out of reach, but I agree that 404, give or take a million, was doable if it had continued the steady sub-30% drops it had been having previously. But really Disney was lucky that it was already close enough to 400 that it didn't require any distracting fudging to get there. (Well, Winter Soldier was right around the corner and gave it a small nudge).

Edited November 28, 2016 by Jake Gittes