WEEKEND THREAD | 3-DAY ESTIMATES: Pirates - 62M ; Baywatch - 18M; Alien - 10.5M (71% drop) like. F8 crosses 1B OS.

[YM!]

3 minutes ago, John Marston said:

 

 

why do you think Iron Man 2 and How to Train Your Dragon 2 didn't meet expectations?

Dragon 2 had a TV show that may have impacted gross. IM2 looks more of the same and had middling reviews.

[grey ghost]

Micheal Bay's version of feminism will probably have Optimus pissing on russian hookers with an American flag waving in slomo.

[GiantCALBears]

17 minutes ago, Daxtreme said:

 

Oh you mean that feminism? 

 

 

You know she'd be doing this in real life, come on guys. 

[filmnerdjamie]

Just now, John Marston said:

 

 

why do you think Iron Man 2 and How to Train Your Dragon 2 didn't meet expectations?

 

Personally? 

 

How to Train Your Dragon 2 did wait 4 years (then again, that doesn't really matter for animated films) and I think we all just overestimated its appeal/potential. I had that pegged to win summer 2014. Iron Man 2 out-opened the original by a good amount but made less because it sucked. Simply WOM.

[grim22]

Movie studios seem to be taking Rotten Tomatoes seriously. Can see big changes coming for that site soon @baumer

 

[CJohn]

3 minutes ago, grim22 said:

Movie studios seem to be taking Rotten Tomatoes seriously. Can see big changes coming for that site soon @baumer

 

Finally, they are doing something about it.

[grey ghost]

RT also has an audience score.

 

Maybe studios should brag about their high audience scores in their advertising instead of trying to overhaul how the critics' scores are aggregated.

[grey ghost]

Just emphasize the audience score more. 

 

Some of us actually use the critic score.

[Biggestgeekever]

6 minutes ago, grim22 said:

Movie studios seem to be taking Rotten Tomatoes seriously. Can see big changes coming for that site soon @baumer

 

Hollywood learning all the wrong lessons from this weekend?

 

NO FUCKING WAY!!

[filmnerdjamie]

Rotten Tomatoes has always been a shitty rating system. Never understood how anyone could take them seriously especially when they don't even read the reviews half the time, something that was proven when RT gave "Fresh" ratings to mixed reviews for Avatar. It's all bullshit.

 

But blaming them for your crappy films' under-performing? Fuck off, Disney and Paramount. Look in the mirror.

[That One Girl]

7 minutes ago, grim22 said:

Movie studios seem to be taking Rotten Tomatoes seriously. Can see big changes coming for that site soon @baumer

 

 

Means they're gonna start putting more quality into their films.  Gonna be harder to get away with your film being shit from here on out.

[John Marston]

Just now, Biggestgeekever said:

Hollywood learning all the wrong lessons from this weekend?

 

NO FUCKING WAY!!

 

 

when the movie is always testing well, how would you know what to change? I can see what they are getting at.

[YM!]

Just now, That One Valerian said:

 

Means they're gonna start putting more quality into their films.  Gonna be harder to get away with your film being shit from here on out.

Quite the contrary. Some studios will let reviews out OD instead of making better films.

[UNDERDOG]

11 minutes ago, grim22 said:

Movie studios seem to be taking Rotten Tomatoes seriously. Can see big changes coming for that site soon @baumer

 

 

 

Rotten Tomatoes has ruined people's ability to seek out reviews.

No one reads a THR review of a movie, they just go on Rotten Tomatoes to see if THR gave it a big, green symbol or a fucking tomato.  

 

And that leads to the mindset of "this film is bad because its rotten on Rotten Tomatoes", instead of asking "Why this film is bad".

Actually read the criticisms or praise, don't just stare at the rotten symbol and dismiss it.

Edited May 28, 2017 by UNDERDOG

[That One Girl]

Just now, YourMother said:

Quite the contrary. Some studios will let reviews out OD instead of making better films.

 

All that will do is draw in more skepticism from the GA that the film ain't good. 

[franfar]

2 minutes ago, That One Valerian said:

 

Means they're gonna start putting more quality into their films. 

Or in typical fashion, Hollywood will learn the wrong lesson, and restrict critic's reviews to mitigate a bad OW

[Biggestgeekever]

Could I get a source on that, @grim22? I'd like to share it.

 

1 minute ago, filmnerdjamie said:

Rotten Tomatoes has always been a shitty rating system. Never understood how anyone could take them seriously especially when they don't even read the reviews half the time, something that was proven when RT gave "Fresh" ratings to mixed reviews for Avatar. It's all bullshit.

 

But blaming them for your crappy films' under-performing? Fuck off, Disney and Paramount. Look in the mirror.

Critics assign the fresh or rotten rating, if I'm not mistaken.

 

1 minute ago, John Marston said:

when the movie is always testing well, how would you know what to change? I can see what they are getting at.

I mean, if the films have shitty legs, that should make you question the methodology of your testing. You can't blame poor WOM from audiences on rotten tomatoes.

[Ethan Hunt]

5 minutes ago, That One Valerian said:

 

Means they're gonna start putting more quality into their films.  Gonna be harder to get away with your film being shit from here on out.

I mean but a lot of people here seem or have liked both movies. Quality can't be gauged as objective. Similarly BatB did well on RT but you and I (as well as others on here) both hate it. 

[UNDERDOG]

4 minutes ago, filmnerdjamie said:

Rotten Tomatoes has always been a shitty rating system. Never understood how anyone could take them seriously especially when they don't even read the reviews half the time, something that was proven when RT gave "Fresh" ratings to mixed reviews for Avatar. It's all bullshit.

 

But blaming them for your crappy films' under-performing? Fuck off, Disney and Paramount. Look in the mirror.

I remember Devin Faraci gave Suicide Squad a mixed review, but decided to give it a 'fresh' rating on RT, even after declaring that the film really isn't all that good.

[YM!]

Seems like the more confident studios like Disney, WB, Fox and Universal will still have critic screenings. However maybe Sony and Paramount will wait until OD.