What a WONDERful Weekend | WW down only 16% on Sunday. 103M weekend. pg 226

[Barnack]

6 minutes ago, Brainiac5 said:

Not really ,we have to compare these films to the modern day superhero movie and not the films when there was basically nothing else to watch at the movies.

Mos,BVS and JL are a trilogy  so the second film in the series making 205mil more than the previous film is a damn good increase.

 

 

?

 

That was what was playing in wide release the weekend Dark Knight opened:

1	1	N	The Dark Knight	WB	$158,411,483	-	4,366	-	$36,283	$158,411,483	$185	1
2	3	2	Hancock	Sony	$14,040,178	-56.2%	3,776	-189	$3,718	$191,543,979	$150	3
3	6	4	WALL-E	BV	$10,070,396	-46.4%	3,310	-539	$3,042	$182,732,709	$180	4
4	5	1	Hellboy II: The Golden Army	Uni.	$10,117,815	-70.7%	3,212	+8	$3,150	$56,526,885	$85	2
5	11	7	Meet Dave	Fox	$1,659,424	-68.4%	3,011	-	$551	$9,398,409	$60	2
6	2	N	Mamma Mia!	Uni.	$27,751,240	-	2,976	-	$9,325	$27,751,240	$52	1
7	4	3	Journey to the Center of the Earth	WB (NL)	$12,340,435	-41.3%	2,830	+19	$4,361	$43,504,712	$60	2
8	7	N	Space Chimps	Fox	$7,181,374	-	2,511	-	$2,860	$7,181,374	$37	1
9	8	5	Wanted	Uni.	$5,072,805	-57.7%	2,433	-724	$2,085	$123,322,635	$75	4
10	9	6	Get Smart	WB	$4,125,021	-42.7%	2,135	-951	$1,932	$119,608,695	$80	5
11	10	8	Kung Fu Panda	P/DW	$1,860,854	-57.8%	1,505	-1,199	$1,236	$206,616,381	$130	7
12	13	10	Kit Kittredge: An American Girl	PicH	$951,358	-58.7%	769	-1,080	$1,237	$13,769,304	$10	5
13	12	11	Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull	Par.	$955,846	-57.7%	757	-907	$1,263	$312,569,461	$185	9
14	15	9	The Incredible Hulk	Uni.	$626,515	-73.0%	656	-1,289	$955	$131,767,165	$150	6

 

 

Other movies openning in is legs, Tropic thunder, Step brothers, X-Files, The Mummy, Pineappel express, Death Race, Star wars clone wars, etc...

 

How is it different than BvS first weekend competition of movie in wide release, pretty similar era, there is less studio movie made now (less and less by year's), not more:

 

1	1	N	Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice	WB	$166,007,347	-	4,242	-	$39,134	$166,007,347	$250	1
2	5	2	The Divergent Series: Allegiant	LG/S	$9,435,173	-67.5%	3,740	-	$2,523	$46,540,669	-	2
3	2	1	Zootopia	BV	$24,022,288	-35.4%	3,670	-289	$6,546	$241,431,697	-	4
4	3	N	My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2	Uni.	$17,861,950	-	3,133	-	$5,701	$17,861,950	-	1
5	4	3	Miracles from Heaven	TriS	$9,694,581	-34.6%	3,047	-	$3,182	$34,304,594	$13	2
6	6	4	10 Cloverfield Lane	Par.	$5,940,154	-52.5%	2,802	-625	$2,120	$55,950,951	-	3
7	7	5	Deadpool	Fox	$4,897,941	-38.9%	2,336	-588	$2,097	$349,371,907	$58	7
8	8	6	London Has Fallen	Focus	$3,027,568	-55.8%	2,173	-838	$1,393	$55,716,425	$60	4
9	18	13	The Young Messiah	Focus	$274,236	-74.8%	874	-895	$314	$6,257,221	-	3
10	12	7	Whiskey Tango Foxtrot	Par.	$900,104	-67.9%	847	-1,232	$1,063	$21,326,169	$35	4
11	14	8	The Perfect Match	LGF	$682,647	-65.4%	658	-267	$1,037	$8,724,275	-	3
12	10	11	Risen	Sony	$935,025	-18.3%	634	-571	$1,475	$36,029,172	$20	6

 

 

[YM!]

1 minute ago, franfar said:

I said it'll decrease

 

Flat is worst case scenario.

[excel1]

4 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said:

 

Even if it does flop, it's not going to all of a sudden force Nolan to beg for jobs. Zack Snyder, Ridley Scott, and plenty of other directors put out numerous flops and still get a ton of work. Nolan is going to do whatever the hell he wants.

 

What? Explain Peter Jackson please.

 

Nolan wouldn't need to "Beg" for jobs, but if Dunkirk comes in below Interstellar, his next film will absolutely have to deliver or his days getting blank checks are over. Im sure he knows this. 

[ZeeSoh]

4 minutes ago, excel1 said:

 

 

Marvel has saturated their brand and poorly done their only previously A list hero (Spidey) while overusing their only new A list hero (Iron Man). At this point, Marvel movies are much closer to a TV series in season 8 or 9. There is a huge floor of die hard fans, but the ratings are always a bit down from it's season 3 or 4 peak. I doubt even Infinity Wars 2 or whatever they announce as Downey's last movie comes close 2012 size. It also does not help that the movies have lead nowhere and played serious moviegoers for suckers, i.e. people "die" and then return...Tony had drama with Pepper, who just disappears, etc.

 

I do, firmly, believe that audience members inherently like to be challenged while viewing a film. They like to have to think about it a little bit. They like feeling as if they have learned something by the time the film is over. Marvel obviously makes no attempt at this and hasn't for years, and it has cost them that portion of moviegoers.

 

Which MCU character died and then returned within the MCU? 

I can remember a pretty big DCEU character dying and then returning (indication) within the same freaking movie though. So care to enlighten me?

 

And also i dont know about you but I and pretty much Everyone I know go to movies to be entertained not to sit in a lecture and pretend to learn something. 

 

I've heard this ridiculous nonsense about DCEU movies being better than MCU by virtue of being dark and apparently exploring themes and shit. When all we got in BvS were philosophical ideas that lead no where and were abandoned by the third act do that the trio can fight big bad monster. Apparently MCU can explore anynumber of philosophical ideas but some levity in the movie automatically mean that the movie is for "kids" coz adults are not allowed to have fun and laugh. 

 

The hypocrisy is palpable

[Alli]

3 minutes ago, excel1 said:

I am pumped for Dunkirk.

 

I doubt the Batfleck movie happens if Justice League is less than popular. Affleck is old and aged, the role cost him his marriage, and it seems arguable as to whether he even wants to be involved anymore.

 

 

 

 

Affleck is the same age as bale. i don't think he's "aged"  and the rest is baseless gossip speculation

 

 

Edited June 2, 2017 by Alli

[That One Girl]

I hope Dunkirk flops so Vabaerian can succeed.

[Hatebox]

Fuck sake, I stumble into a weekend thread at page 63 and it's a DC vs Marvel argument.

[ChipDerby]

7 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

*sees the JL will increase from BVS stuff has started*

 

 

 

http://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/23678-justice-league-over-450000000-domestic-club/

[mredman]

4 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

*sees the JL will increase from BVS stuff has started*

 

DCEU hater i guess. now i know why you got banned

2 minutes ago, excel1 said:

I am pumped for Dunkirk.

 

I doubt the Batfleck movie happens if Justice League is less than popular. Affleck is old and aged, the role cost him his marriage, and it seems arguable as to whether he even wants to be involved anymore.

 

If you don't think WB will try to lure one more Bat film out of Nolan before the series is completely considered "done", you're crazy. TDK is still the most popular and influential film of the millennial generation. Nothing before or after has left such a pop culture footprint.

 

It's easy to see how they events could line up to make it a possibility.

This again.  Are you serious with this crap Affleck is not to old at all. If Affleck is to old what is Downey Jr then. And no TDK trilogy is done its time you wake up instead f still being stuck in 2012

[RichWS]

Just got back from Wonda Woman. Gadot and Pine are great, and some of the fish out of water humor works. Other than that, the movie itself is pretty pedestrian. Definitely 15 minutes too long. Towards the end, I started to succumb to The Zone Out. I suspect WOM will be fine enough, but can't imagine it'll be blazing. 

[franfar]

Just now, That Covfefe Guy said:

I hope Dunkirk flops so Vabaerian can succeed.

Zero sum games? lol

 

1 minute ago, Hatebox said:

Fuck sake, I stumble into a weekend thread at page 63 and it's a DC vs Marvel argument.

I'm surprised it took this many pages to get here.

[cax16]

5 minutes ago, excel1 said:

I am pumped for Dunkirk.

 

I doubt the Batfleck movie happens if Justice League is less than popular. Affleck is old and aged, the role cost him his marriage, and it seems arguable as to whether he even wants to be involved anymore.

 

If you don't think WB will try to lure one more Bat film out of Nolan before the series is completely considered "done", you're crazy. TDK is still the most popular and influential film of the millennial generation. Nothing before or after has left such a pop culture footprint.

 

It's easy to see how they events could line up to make it a possibility.

The Batman will be made either way if Affleck is involved or not as they've already signed Matt Reeves to direct. As much as I like Affleck they won't stop making Batman movies ever. 

[aabattery]

3 minutes ago, YourMother said:

Flat is worst case scenario.

 

I think you don't understand what a worst case scenario is.

 

[YM!]

Just now, mredman said:

DCEU hater i guess. now i know why you got banned.

He got banned for accidentally telling a spoiler. Just because someone gives a low box office prediction for a DCEU movie means they're a hater.

[a2k]

9 minutes ago, excel1 said:

 

What? Explain Peter Jackson please.

 

Nolan wouldn't need to "Beg" for jobs, but if Dunkirk comes in below Interstellar, his next film will absolutely have to deliver or his days getting blank checks are over. Im sure he knows this. 

 

Nolan can well go outside WB/DCEU and make a movie in big franchises of other studios if he has to do something less risky.

He can adapt a popular novel or smth, but he won't go back to Batman.

Edited June 2, 2017 by a2knet

[YM!]

Just now, aabattery said:

 

I think you don't understand what a worst case scenario is.

 

Nope but I understand logic.  

(Just need some Granny's Peach Tea)

[redfirebird2008]

4 minutes ago, excel1 said:

 

What? Explain Peter Jackson please.

 

Nolan wouldn't need to "Beg" for jobs, but if Dunkirk comes in below Interstellar, his next film will absolutely have to deliver or his days getting blank checks are over. Im sure he knows this. 

 

What about Jackson? He has nowhere near the power at WB that Nolan does. By the way, there is a hell of a big difference between reducing your budget/paycheck and groveling to work on a retread superhero project. Nolan will never need to do that.

[mredman]

2 minutes ago, RichWS said:

Just got back from Wonda Woman. Gadot and Pine are great, and some of the fish out of water humor works. Other than that, the movie itself is pretty pedestrian. Definitely 15 minutes too long. Towards the end, I started to succumb to The Zone Out. I suspect WOM will be fine enough, but can't imagine it'll be blazing. 

you are wrong they are blazing actually

[junkshop36]

12 minutes ago, Hatebox said:

Just got clickbaited by an article that said this did 'record-breaking preview numbers'.

 

Turns out it was record-breaking by a female director. Thanks, internet.

 

I read the same one lol

[franfar]

Just now, YourMother said:

Nope but I understand logic.  

(Just need some Granny's Peach Tea)

Saying that no change is worst-case scenario isn't logical.