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Tuesday Numbers: SMH 15M, DM3 6.7M, BD 2.29M, WW 1.64M

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21 minutes ago, CJohn said:

 

 

Don't wanna read stuff like this: "Theater stocks have been pummeled as investors grow skittish about the possibility that exhibitors will reach a deal that would allow studios to release movies on demand early."

 

Summer admissions are pretty shit this year, but that doesn't mean the rest of the year will follow suit. Jan-Apr this year was pretty good, post-summer could do well too.

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1 minute ago, lab276 said:

 

 

Don't wanna read stuff like this: "Theater stocks have been pummeled as investors grow skittish about the possibility that exhibitors will reach a deal that would allow studios to release movies on demand early."

 

Summer admissions are pretty shit this year, but that doesn't mean the rest of the year will follow suit. Jan-Apr this year was pretty good, post-summer could do well too.

 

Theaters have been most affected thanks to studios putting out movies people don't want to watch. Which is the entire reason I still don't buy the "OS grosses will ensure franchises continue" argument. Domestic theaters are affected greatly by franchises which are on the downswing continuing and there will definitely come a point when theaters will want to renegotiate terms with studios per movie instead of their entire slate, especially for aging franchises.

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Don't wanna read stuff like this: "Theater stocks have been pummeled as investors grow skittish about the possibility that exhibitors will reach a deal that would allow studios to release movies on demand early."


Summer admissions are pretty shit this year, but that doesn't mean the rest of the year will follow suit. Jan-Apr this year was pretty good, post-summer could do well too.


Theaters would be signing their own death warrants by allowing studios to release on demand early. I can't believe that wasn't shut down immediately by exhibitors. Are they really that stupid?

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11 minutes ago, grim22 said:

 

August really needed a tentpole to anchor the month which is why I feel Covfefe moving was a mistake. Would have had better legs and a potentially bigger OW as well sans any kind of competition. After Dunkirk, it is like Hollywood decided to call time on this summer. No huge tentpoles scheduled till Kingsman in mid-September post July 21. October is somewhat better than August.

 

Yeah after Dunkirk, can't wait for November to come soon enough :huh:

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1 hour ago, the beast said:

I wonder what day Wonder Woman drops under $1m?

 

WW weekday hold above $1M (straight days) has to be in the top 5 (worse 10) movie of all time I would think...

I can only think of 3 or 4 others (TFA,Avatar,Titanic,IT), but someone can verify...

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Distributor Gross Change Thtrs. Per Thtr. Total Gross Days
1 (1) Spider-Man: Homecoming Sony Pictures $15,053,665 +23% 4,348 $3,462   $144,282,551 5
2 (2) Despicable Me 3 Universal $6,717,600 +54% 4,535 $1,481   $159,859,230 12
3 (3) Baby Driver Sony Pictures $2,287,647 +37% 3,226 $709   $61,095,880 14
4 (4) Wonder Woman Warner Bros. $1,640,127 +38% 3,091 $531   $371,297,661 40
5 (5) Transformers: The Last Knight Paramount Pictures $1,050,219 +40% 3,241 $324   $120,796,372 21
6 (6) Cars 3 Walt Disney $1,043,893 +45% 2,702 $386   $135,245,463 26
7 (7) The House Warner Bros. $922,142 +44% 3,134 $294   $20,156,469 12
8 (8) 47 Meters Down Entertainment Studi… $514,185 +22% 1,741 $295   $39,344,732 26
9 (10) The Beguiled Focus Features $329,120 +39% 941 $350   $7,978,279 19
10 (11) Pirates of the Caribbean: D… Walt Disney $240,274 +36% 1,039 $231   $169,229,490 47
11 (12) The Mummy Universal $206,020 +21% 1,045 $197   $78,372,355 33
12 (13) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 Walt Disney $153,876 +25% 660 $233   $385,837,234 68
13 (15) Captain Underpants: The Fir… 20th Century Fox $79,917 +28% 407 $196   $70,677,949 40
14 (-) The Boss Baby 20th Century Fox $40,837 +28% 195 $209   $173,985,865 103
15 (-) Baywatch Paramount Pictures $31,786 +14% 193 $165   $57,663,158 48
- (-) The Book of Henry Focus Features $21,783 +26% 154 $141   $4,258,599 26
- (-) Everything, Everything Warner Bros. $20,014 +16% 141 $142   $33,889,684 54
- (-) The Fate of the Furious Universal $17,940 +29% 115 $156   $225,729,250 89
- (-) Alien: Covenant 20th Century Fox $15,169 +8% 132 $115   $73,872,082 54
- (-) King Arthur: Legend of the … Warner Bros. $13,631 +22% 155 $88   $39,061,892 61
- (-) Beauty and the Beast Walt Disney $12,454 +65% 110 $113   $503,994,888 117
- (-) It Comes at Night A24 $11,265 +4% 90 $125   $13,730,977 33
- (-) Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The L… 20th Century Fox $10,427 +30% 91 $115   $20,595,009 54
- (-) A Ghost Story A24 $10,401 -3% 4 $2,600   $125,199 5
- (-) The Exception A24 $6,562 +2% 48 $137   $526,857 40
- (-) Gifted Fox Searchlight $5,958 +91% 43 $139   $24,671,068 96
- (-) Snatched 20th Century Fox $4,618 +33% 67 $69   $45,803,711 61
- (-) Going in Style Warner Bros. $4,223 +22% 53 $80   $45,011,146 96
- (-) My Cousin Rachel Fox Searchlight $4,122 +41% 37 $111   $2,657,316 33
- (-) Love, Kennedy Purdie Distribution $2,225 +53% 6 $371   $248,047 40
- (-) The Lovers A24
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15 minutes ago, grim22 said:

 

August really needed a tentpole to anchor the month which is why I feel Covfefe moving was a mistake. Would have had better legs and a potentially bigger OW as well sans any kind of competition. After Dunkirk, it is like Hollywood decided to call time on this summer. No huge tentpoles scheduled till Kingsman in mid-September post July 21. October is somewhat better than August.

 

I can't really agree with this.

 

The problem isn't tentpole scheduling, so much, it's just that the vast majority of the movies haven't been appealing. Keeping Alien in August might have had it do slightly better, but it wouldn't have turned it into Suicide Squad. Or even half of Suicide Squad.

 

And it's not as if it was facing some hefty competition in May. So far this summer, we've had two films do about what's expected of them (GotG2, Spidey), 1 film do sub-par but still respectable numbers (DM3), two films do quite a bit better than expected (WW, 47md), and basically a bunch of stuff that's done numbers ranging from disappointing to atrocious.

 

Anything that's slotted into that lineup that's even halfway appealing should have done well. Alien, regardless of reviews, wasn't appealing. The early OS release allowed the word to get out that it was in line with Prometheus, which didn't help, but WOM wasn't going to take off regardless of release date.

 

And actually, late summer doesn't look so bad. We've got Apes, Dunkirk, Girl's Trip, Atomic Blonde, The Dark Tower, Detroit, Annabelle, The Hitman's Bodyguard, and Logan Lucky coming out over the next month or so. While I don't expect all of them to do great, it's looking like a stronger overall lineup we've had for a month period earlier in the season. 

 

If there's one film that might have benefitted from a release date change, it's probably Valerian. Though I honestly don't know if it would make a big difference. It still wouldn't get IMAX.

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1 minute ago, DamienRoc said:

 

I can't really agree with this.

 

The problem isn't tentpole scheduling, so much, it's just that the vast majority of the movies haven't been appealing. Keeping Alien in August might have had it do slightly better, but it wouldn't have turned it into Suicide Squad. Or even half of Suicide Squad.

 

And it's not as if it was facing some hefty competition in May. So far this summer, we've had two films do about what's expected of them (GotG2, Spidey), 1 film do sub-par but still respectable numbers (DM3), two films do quite a bit better than expected (WW, 47md), and basically a bunch of stuff that's done numbers ranging from disappointing to atrocious.

 

Anything that's slotted into that lineup that's even halfway appealing should have done well. Alien, regardless of reviews, wasn't appealing. The early OS release allowed the word to get out that it was in line with Prometheus, which didn't help, but WOM wasn't going to take off regardless of release date.

 

And actually, late summer doesn't look so bad. We've got Apes, Dunkirk, Girl's Trip, Atomic Blonde, The Dark Tower, Detroit, Annabelle, The Hitman's Bodyguard, and Logan Lucky coming out over the next month or so. While I don't expect all of them to do great, it's looking like a stronger overall lineup we've had for a month period earlier in the season. 

 

If there's one film that might have benefitted from a release date change, it's probably Valerian. Though I honestly don't know if it would make a big difference. It still wouldn't get IMAX.

 

You forgot Baby Driver...nobody puts Baby in a corner!

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Just now, TwoMisfits said:

 

You forgot Baby Driver...nobody puts Baby in a corner!

 

Okay, three movies doing better than expected.

 

But two of those are still pretty marginal. We've literally had one tentpole that's exceeded expectations. That isn't something that shuffling release dates will fix.

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1 minute ago, DamienRoc said:

 

Okay, three movies doing better than expected.

 

But two of those are still pretty marginal. We've literally had one tentpole that's exceeded expectations. That isn't something that shuffling release dates will fix.

 

Or have less tentpoles and more lower-budget movies aimed at appealing to different segments of the market...not every movie in the summer has to have a 1000 effects and a $200M+ budget...

 

It'll be interesting if the best summer month ends up being the one with no tentpoles...allowing tentpoles some "catch up" and littler movies to find their audiences...

 

I mean, most families can't go every week to the movies...mine is already behind on our viewing and we're gonna be in the catch up group all this month and then I may need to add July movies to my August viewing:)...

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So I'm projecting Spidey to play out like this.

 

15.05mil

9.8mil-35%

8.9mil-9%

 

14.2+60%

19.2mil+35%

15.2-21%

Weekend Total:

48.6mil-58.4%

 

Of course my projections will change when the real numbers come in.

 

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4 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:


Understatement of the year about [Wonder Woman ].

It didn't do better than expected, WW literally is defying gravity right now.

 

LOL I was ready to post that when I caught your post! 

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