Thursday Numbers: DUNKIRK:$5.19M | GT:$3.17M | SMH:$2.77M | APES:$2.02M | GRU:$1.96M | WW:$0.65M .....NOT THE WW OSCAR PUSH THREAD (take it to the WW thread)

[John Marston]

5 minutes ago, LuisDHern said:

Just out of curiosity. Where are the numbers from Puerto Rico get reported under?  Do they get reported with the domestic numbers (since the island is an US territory and its currency is dollars) or with the foreign numbers since it's not a state? 

 

 

Domestic

[TwoMisfits]

Fandango code went live a little earlier this week...it could be as simple as that - that code is probably driving a lot of "well, it's pretty cheap, so let's go" buys...and it's only good til it runs out...

[narniadis]

Wonderful Thursday around the board it would seem. I am going to assume that DM3 falls a bit only because of Emoji previews, but would love to be shown wrong.

 

Dunkirk going in for a great hold with that Thursday number - it is exactly what it needed to stave off a 50% fall.

[FantasticBeasts]

Just now, narniadis said:

Wonderful Thursday around the board it would seem. I am going to assume that DM3 falls a bit only because of Emoji previews, but would love to be shown wrong.

 

Dunkirk going in for a great hold with that Thursday number - it is exactly what it needed to stave off a 50% fall.

DM3 increased 1%.

[MinaTakla]

DM3 is -29.5% from last Thursday.

 

DM3's 4th Thurs: 1.957

Minions 4th Thurs: 1.644 (added 40m after that)

Pets 4th Thurs: 2.34 (added 60m after that)

 

 

-

(5)

Despicable Me 3

Universal

$1,956,120

+1%

3,525

$555

$222,699,905

28

Edited July 28, 2017 by MinaTakla

[FantasticBeasts]

4 minutes ago, MinaTakla said:

DM3 is -29.5% from last Thursday.

 

DM3's 4th Thurs: 1.957

Minions 4th Thurs: 1.644 (added 40m after that)

Pets 4th Thurs: 2.34 (added 60m after that)

 

 

-

(5)

Despicable Me 3

Universal

$1,956,120

+1%

3,525

$555

$222,699,905

28

I feel it will do 270m when all is said and done.

[Barnack]

18 minutes ago, LuisDHern said:

Just out of curiosity. Where are the numbers from Puerto Rico get reported under?  Do they get reported with the domestic numbers (since the island is an US territory and its currency is dollars) or with the foreign numbers since it's not a state? 

Domestic market: United States, Canada, Puerto Rico and Guam

 

That why it is not called US market nor north america (Mexico not being in it) but a specific to the box office only term "domestic".

[John Marston]

+1%	2,591	$1,225	$45,439,220	7
-	(4)	War for the Planet of the Apes	20th Century Fox	$2,017,141	-6%	4,100	$492	$108,312,629	14
-	(5)	Despicable Me 3	Universal	$1,956,120	+1%	3,525	$555	$222,699,905	28
-	(11)	Transformers: The Last Knight	Paramount Pictures	$126,467	-12%	1,025	$123	$128,234,479	37
-	(12)	Captain Underpants: The Fir…	20th Century Fox	$65,103	-7%	291	$224	$72,158,606	56
-	(14)	47 Meters Down	Entertainment Studi…	$49,898	-18%	449	$111	$42,510,309	42
-	(-)	The Beguiled	Focus Features	$37,515	-9%	331	$113	$10,328,849	35
-	(-)	The Mummy	Universal	$29,895	-6%	214	$140	$79,529,695	49
-	(-)	The Boss Baby	20th Century Fox	$28,507	+1%	163	$175	$174,567,411	119
-	(-)	The Hero	The Orchard	$22,818	+8%	195	$117	$3,786,926	49
-	(-)	A Ghost Story	A24	$19,509	-4%	43	$454	$559,219	21
-	(-)	Baywatch	Paramount Pictures	$12,875	+12%	125	$103	$58,060,186	64
-	(-)	Alien: Covenant	20th Century Fox	$5,923	-5%	103	$58	$74,111,463	70
-	(-)	Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The L…	20th Century Fox	$4,148	+13%	47	$88	$20,692,780	70
-	(-)	The Exception	A24	$3,251	-3%	28	$116	$664,541	56
-	(-)	It Comes at Night	A24	$3,221	+17%	33	$98	$13,828,751	49
-	(-)	Gifted	Fox Searchlight	$3,026	-11%	26	$116	$24,747,430	112
-	(-)	My Cousin Rachel	Fox Searchlight	$2,291	-25%	21	$109	$2,705,399	49
-	(-)	Snatched	20th Century Fox	$1,147	+28%	21	$55	$45,847,354	77
-	(-)	Radio Dreams	Matson	$171

[ZattMurdock]

I think WW really messed with our expectations when it comes to superhero films box office runs. What that film did is fucking incredible and it's enjoying a legendary box office run, but with that said, SMH's box office run is nothing to sneeze at. 

 

On day 18, it's at a better spot than IM2, SS, SM3 and incredibly, ALSO GotG Vol. 1. It's going for a $330m-$340m run, but if it keeps going over GotG, it could get to something crazy like $360m+ domestic. When you think that's the second reboot in less than 15 years, Homecoming is enjoying an astonishing performance. It will easily beat BB and MoS BO runs, becoming the biggest reboot among the "big 3" superhero franchises with two, three reboots going. And it has China and Japan to open yet, so while $1b might not be reachable, it's definitely going above $800m WW with a real shot at $900m.

 

Curious to see if Homecoming will manage to keep going above Guardians this Thur, it did by $500k this wed.

[TwoMisfits]

3 minutes ago, iJackSparrow said:

I think WW really messed with our expectations when it comes to superhero films box office runs. What that film did is fucking incredible and it's enjoying a legendary box office run, but with that said, SMH's box office run is nothing to sneeze at. 

 

On day 18, it's at a better spot than IM2, SS, SM3 and incredibly, ALSO GotG Vol. 1. It's going for a $330m-$340m run, but if it keeps going over GotG, it could get to something crazy like $360m+ domestic. When you think that's the second reboot in less than 15 years, Homecoming is enjoying an astonishing performance. It will easily beat BB and MoS BO runs, becoming the biggest reboot among the "big 3" superhero franchises with two, three reboots going. And it has China and Japan to open yet, so while $1b might not be reachable, it's definitely going above $800m WW with a real shot at $900m.

 

Curious to see if Homecoming will manage to keep going above Guardians this Thur, it did by $500k this wed.

You missed my post yesterday where I said $325M was starting to get into the very likely category and the movie could hit between $340-$360m if it just stayed in the same "leg" zone it's hitting...

 

With world class animated fails, this could float towards GOTG 2's total, just maybe not by Labor Day:)...

Edited July 28, 2017 by TwoMisfits

[titanic2187]

7 minutes ago, John Marston said:

+1%	2,591	$1,225	$45,439,220	7
-	(4)	War for the Planet of the Apes	20th Century Fox	$2,017,141	-6%	4,100	$492	$108,312,629	14
-	(5)	Despicable Me 3	Universal	$1,956,120	+1%	3,525	$555	$222,699,905	28
-	(11)	Transformers: The Last Knight	Paramount Pictures	$126,467	-12%	1,025	$123	$128,234,479	37
-	(12)	Captain Underpants: The Fir…	20th Century Fox	$65,103	-7%	291	$224	$72,158,606	56
-	(14)	47 Meters Down	Entertainment Studi…	$49,898	-18%	449	$111	$42,510,309	42
-	(-)	The Beguiled	Focus Features	$37,515	-9%	331	$113	$10,328,849	35
-	(-)	The Mummy	Universal	$29,895	-6%	214	$140	$79,529,695	49
-	(-)	The Boss Baby	20th Century Fox	$28,507	+1%	163	$175	$174,567,411	119
-	(-)	The Hero	The Orchard	$22,818	+8%	195	$117	$3,786,926	49
-	(-)	A Ghost Story	A24	$19,509	-4%	43	$454	$559,219	21
-	(-)	Baywatch	Paramount Pictures	$12,875	+12%	125	$103	$58,060,186	64
-	(-)	Alien: Covenant	20th Century Fox	$5,923	-5%	103	$58	$74,111,463	70
-	(-)	Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The L…	20th Century Fox	$4,148	+13%	47	$88	$20,692,780	70
-	(-)	The Exception	A24	$3,251	-3%	28	$116	$664,541	56
-	(-)	It Comes at Night	A24	$3,221	+17%	33	$98	$13,828,751	49
-	(-)	Gifted	Fox Searchlight	$3,026	-11%	26	$116	$24,747,430	112
-	(-)	My Cousin Rachel	Fox Searchlight	$2,291	-25%	21	$109	$2,705,399	49
-	(-)	Snatched	20th Century Fox	$1,147	+28%	21	$55	$45,847,354	77
-	(-)	Radio Dreams	Matson	$171

-46% drop for Apes from last thrusday! at last its drop fall under 50%, started to stabilise, thanks to no major event films in august, Apes could play well, $150m isn't dead yet, the cinema is still the planet of the apes! 

[ZattMurdock]

6 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

You missed my post yesterday where I said $325M was starting to get into the very likely category and the movie could hit between $340-$360m if it just stayed in the same "leg" zone it's hitting...

 

With world class animated fails, this could float towards GOTG 2's total, just maybe not by Labor Day:)...

The last "real" threat to Homecoming's bo run was released last week. With Emoji bombing and an uneventful August, added with Homecoming obvious amazing WOM (not beating WW doesn't mean that it's WOM isn't great, it's beating freaking GotG so far), going north to $350m until the end of it's theatrical run seems more like a possibility now than it did after it's second weekend.

[TwoMisfits]

1 minute ago, iJackSparrow said:

The last "real" threat to Homecoming's bo run was released last week. With Emoji bombing and an uneventful August, added with Homecoming obvious amazing WOM (not beating WW doesn't mean that it's WOM isn't great, it's beating freaking GotG so far), going north to $350m until the end of it's theatrical run seems more like a possibility now than it did after it's second weekend.

Seems like more of a possibility to those that didn't look at the coming movies and schedule and the current theater line ups for families:)...

 

We also tend to be an impatient lot here when it comes to legs...so forgetting that July movies usually have some of the best legs all year (outside of Xmas) is probably par for BOT's course:)...

[LuisDHern]

51 minutes ago, John Marston said:

 

 

Domestic

Thank you 😊 

[LuisDHern]

38 minutes ago, Barnack said:

Domestic market: United States, Canada, Puerto Rico and Guam

 

That why it is not called US market nor north america (Mexico not being in it) but a specific to the box office only term "domestic".

Thank you for the info! 😊 

[titanic2187]

6 minutes ago, iJackSparrow said:

The last "real" threat to Homecoming's bo run was released last week. With Emoji bombing and an uneventful August, added with Homecoming obvious amazing WOM (not beating WW doesn't mean that it's WOM isn't great, it's beating freaking GotG so far), going north to $350m until the end of it's theatrical run seems more like a possibility now than it did after it's second weekend.

mathematically speaking when come to legs, 2nd weekend drop is the most crucial part. Let's say

Movie A:

week 1: $100m

week 2: $60m(-40%)

week 3: $30m(-50%)

week 4: $12m(-60%) 

 

Movie B:

week 1: $100m

week 2: $40m(-60%)

week 3: $20m(-50%)

week 4: $12m(-40%)

 

Both movie opened to $100m, and just the percentage(40%,50%,60%) they drops across each consecutive week are reversed, both movie ends up with $12m in 4th week, but you can clearly see movie A has much bigger 2nd week and 3rd week figure. Movie A are better off because of having a great hold from a big number and movie B, the hold only kicks in from a small number.

 

the early the legs kicks in, more the movie better off in term of absolute numbers...that's why there is understanding about that 2nd weekend seal the staying power fate of a movie.....only a films that I can remember in recent year, managed to deliver insane legs after quite big 2nd week's drop, and that was FROZEN!! 

[ZeeSoh]

I wouldnt call SMH legs just yet. The 3 movies that it has been following closely has been MoS, Minions and Ant Man. All 4 movies are looking at similar 4th weekend drops ( AM better at 38 compared to 45-46 for the others). 

 

Its the 5th weekend onwards that AM and Minions deviate from MoS. Both the former movies had phenomenal holds from 5th weekend onwards whereas MoS on the other hand suffered humongous drops in its 5th,6th and 7th weekends which cut its legs. So the next weekend will tell us if it follow AM/Minions or MoS. 

 

If it follows AM/Minions then it will get to 325+. If it follows MoS it might get to 305, 310 max. Don't think it gets to 350. That would require better legs than Minions (and that had great late legs)

[ZattMurdock]

1 minute ago, ZeeSoh said:

I wouldnt call SMH legs just yet. The 3 movies that it has been following closely has been MoS, Minions and Ant Man. All 4 movies are looking at similar 4th weekend drops ( AM better at 38 compared to 45-46 for the others). 

 

Its the 5th weekend onwards that AM and Minions deviate from MoS. Both the former movies had phenomenal holds from 5th weekend onwards whereas MoS on the other hand suffered humongous drops in its 5th,6th and 7th weekends which cut its legs. So the next weekend will tell us if it follow AM/Minions or MoS. 

 

If it follows AM/Minions then it will get to 325+. If it follows MoS it might get to 305, 310 max. Don't think it gets to 350. That would require better legs than Minions (and that had great late legs)

It's not following just these films. It's still ahead of GotG, IM2 and SS, which I think are better parallels to trace, especially GotG and SS. 

[Mr Terrific]

I'm relieved that my $340m domestic prediction has moved to never-getting-anywhere-close to eh-turned-out-not-crazy. 

[Cochofles]

I would call SM:H's run many things, but "astonishing" is not one of them.

Decent, alright, not-bad, nothing-to-sneeze at?  Sure.

Astonishing? Not really.