Labor Day Weekend Thread: The Death of Box Office | Posting or Discussing Any Weekend Numbers = Banned | Pokémon or True Detective gifs Are Allowed

[Fancyarcher]

Cars 3 is fine. Not bad, just fine, not exactly super memorable, but hey you could do worse.

 

17 minutes ago, YourMother said:

I think Coco is going sub $200M now. There's too much competition and not enough advertising. Even the Frozen short is getting more ads around Disney's Theme Parks.

I'm bracing for a potential sub 200m, but it could get fantastic reviews too, so you never know. I also don't believe that Disney isn't advertising it enough, as much as we're not seeing that advertisement as much so to say.

 

8 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:

Cartoony talking cars basically sells itself. Pixar has made BILLIONS of the merchandising and toys. Pretty crazy.

It helps that Disney continues to keep the brand in the public's mind too. You can't go to a store that sells kids stuff without seeing Cars on something.

The movies are basically commercials at this point.

I don't care for the franchise, but it would be foolish to deny how much money it makes.

Hasn't the Cars merchandise slumped a bit in sales actually, which is allegedly why a third film was made anyway.

[DAR]

5 minutes ago, John Marston said:

Also while Cars 3 was never going to do great,  releasing it just two weeks very re Despicable Me 3 was a pretty dumb idea. Should have taken the date Emoji had and is taking advantage of 

Disney generally plants three release dates in the summer.  Marvel first weekend in May, another movie on Memorial Day and a Pixar release sometime in mid June

[ZattMurdock]

10 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

SMH practically flat from last week and a healthy friday increase over deadline estimate. It's sprouted great late legs, one of the best for SH movies (late legs that is). It should clear 330m IMO and overtake BvS. China too is looking good presales wise with 120-150 looking possible. That should take it over GotG2, BvS and possibly SM3 worldwide and may even touch 900 if 150 happens. 

 

WW continuing her great run. WB should try and push her to the 4 multi which can happen if WW manages to hold on to its theatres. 

So happy that you, @TwoMisfits, @XO21 and me had the gut instinct that this would just keep going when most here were already trying to say that its run was done. I honestly wouldn't discard going over SM3's domestic numbers when it's all said and done either. I don't see this doing "just" more $5m after this weekend. It will keep going. 

[Mojoguy]

All the Cars movies pretty much blur together in my mind. It's just amazing that Cars 3 will not hit a 3x multiplier. Cars 2 also managed that feat.

Animated family films not hitting a 3X multiplier is rare since families are such a huge part of the audience. Both Cars sequels accomplishing that is pretty telling.

Cars 3 being so frontloaded is surprising, I thought it would have at least had better legs than Cars 2, now that movie was one and done after OW.

[FantasticBeasts]

The Cars franchise is sooo bad. I can't understand how you are supposed to enjoy it unless you are a five-year-old.

[ZattMurdock]

2 hours ago, a2knet said:

TD	YD	Title (Click to View)	Studio	Daily Gross	% +/- YD / LW		Theaters / Avg		Gross To-Date	Day
1	1	The Hitman's Bodyguard	LG/S	$2,430,000	+139%	-23%	3,370	$721	$47,124,214	15
2	2	Annabelle: Creation	WB (NL)	$1,830,000	+152%	-28%	3,358	$545	$83,505,598	22
3	3	Wind River	Wein.	$1,500,000	+185%	+4%	2,602	$576	$13,922,437	29
4	6	Leap!	Wein.	$1,071,000	+214%	-34%	2,705	$396	$7,565,803	8
5	4	Logan Lucky	BST	$1,063,105	+126%	-22%	2,975	$357	$18,093,592	15
6	5	Dunkirk	WB	$930,000	+99%	-22%	2,752	$338	$175,559,545	43
7	7	Spider-Man: Homecoming	Sony	$800,000	+146%	-1%	2,036	$393	$321,201,546	57
8	9	Girls Trip	Uni.	$583,000	+131%	-26%	1,607	$363	$109,842,515	43
9	10	The Emoji Movie	Sony	$485,000	+94%	-22%	2,108	$230	$78,361,714	36
10	-	Close Encounters Of The Third Kind (2017 Re-Release)	Sony	$485,000	-	-	901	$538	$485,000	1
11	11	Despicable Me 3	Uni.	$471,000	+142%	+11%	2,132	$221	$256,006,230	64
12	-	Wonder Woman	WB	$430,000	+139%	-12%	1,808	$238	$407,449,021	92
-	8	The Nut Job 2: Nutty by Nature	ORF	$427,837	+59%	-27%	2,651	$161	$24,268,341	22
-	12	The Dark Tower	Sony	$360,000	+86%	-31%	1,820	$198	$46,191,894	29

Spider-Man: Homecoming's and Wonder Woman's drops from last weekend also stand out when compared with everything else. What a fucking AMAZING year for superhero films not just when we talk about quality, but box office as well. I couldn't be more happier. Like @ZeeSoh, I do think that reaching $900m+ with China has definitely become a possibility for Homecoming. Wonder Woman gets to be the biggest domestic film of the year and Spidey gets worldwide. I couldn't be more stoked and happier. The superhero genre wins together when we get films like what we get this year so far. Let's hope that Ragnarok and the League keep the trend going. 

Edited September 2, 2017 by iJackSparrow

[Zakiyyah6]

I am going to be so annoyed if JL ruins the good reviews streak Superhero movies are on. It's almost certain to get the worst reviews of all the comic book movies in 2017 but it would be nice if it could hit 70% on Rotten Tomatoes. 

 

For better or worse I'm a DC fan so I'm hoping it does better than BvS worldwide. So around what Homecoming will end with.

Edited September 2, 2017 by Zakiyyah6

[ZattMurdock]

2 minutes ago, Zakiyyah6 said:

I am going to be so annoyed if JL ruins the good reviews streak Superhero movies are on. It's almost certain to get the worst reviews of all the comic book movies in 2017 but it would be nice if it could hit 70% on Rotten Tomatoes. 

 

For better or worse I'm a DC fan so I'm hoping it does better than BvS worldwide.

I will be mad if either break the streak. It's not a sure thing. We are having amazing superhero films since Doctor Strange last year. Let's keep the trend going. 

[Mojoguy]

Disney generally plants three release dates in the summer. Marvel first weekend in May, another movie on Memorial Day and a Pixar release sometime in mid June

Also a WDAS film in November, and a Star Wars film in December.

[DAJK]

9/11 is only opening in approx 400 theatres according to mojo.

 

that 911k opening looking more and more likely

[Ethan Hunt]

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[a2k]

Cars1 multiplier compared with other Pixar originals.

 

1990s Early Era

1995 Toy Story 6.59x (191.8/29.1) Wed opener

1998 A Bug's Life 4.90x (162.8/33.25) Wed opener

 

Golden Era

2001 Monsters Inc 4.09x (255.9/62.6)

2003 Finding Nemo 4.84x (339.7/70.25)

2004 Incredibles 3.71x (261.4/70.5)

(2001-2004 also had Shrek1 6.32x, Ice Age1 3.81x. Shrek2 4.08x opened on Wed.)

 

Middle Era

2006 Cars 4.06x (244.1/60.1)

2007 Wall-e 3.55x (223.8/63.1)

2008 Up 4.30x (293.0/68.1)

2012 Brave 3.58x (237.28/66.3)

(Number of CG animations shot up and the novelty factor diluted. Pixar had some fan-boy front-loading. A-grade competition further increased - KFP, DM, HTTYD, Hotel Transylvania among others.)

 

Thu Previews Era
2015 Inside Out 3.94x (356.5/90.4)

2015 The Good Dino 3.15x (123.1/39.15) Wed opener

(Rise of C-grade animations maybe due to cheap technology. Forget 4x, in 2017, except DM3 all movies below 3.5x : Lego Bat, Smurfs 3, Cars 3, Boss Baby, CU, Emoji, Nut Job 2. IO could have done 4x if not for Thu previews)

 

Edited September 2, 2017 by a2knet

[John Marston]

5 minutes ago, a2knet said:

Cars1 multiplier compared with other Pixar originals.

 

1990s Early Era

1995 Toy Story 6.59x (191.8/29.1)

1998 A Bug's Life 4.90x (162.8/33.25)

 

Golden Era

2001 Monsters Inc 4.09x (255.9/62.6)

2003 Finding Nemo 4.84x (339.7/70.25)

2004 Incredibles 3.71x (261.4/70.5)

(2001-2004 also had Shrek1 6.32x, Ice Age1 3.81x and Shrek2 4.08x)

 

Middle Era

2006 Cars did 4.06x (244.1/60.1)

2007 Wall-e 3.55x (223.8/63.1)

2008 Up 4.30x (293.0/68.1)

2012 Brave 3.58x (237.28/66.3)

(Number of CG animations shot up and the novelty factor diluted. Pixar had some fan-boy front-loading. A-grade competition further increased - KFP, DM, HTTYD, Hotel Trans)

 

Thu Previews Era
2015 Inside Out 3.94x (356.5/90.4)

2015 The Good Dino 3.15x (123.1/39.15)

(Rise of C-grade animations maybe due to cheap technology. Forget 4x, in 2017, except DM3 all movies below 3.5x : Lego Bat, Smurfs 3, Cars 3, Boss Baby, CU, Emoji, Nut Job 2)

remember the first two Toy Story films and a Bug's Life and Shrek 2 had Wednesday releases so it is hard to know what their multiplier clearly is

Edited September 2, 2017 by John Marston

[a2k]

11 minutes ago, John Marston said:

remember the first two Toy Story films and a Bug's Life and Shrek 2 had Wednesday releases so it is hard to know what their multiplier clearly is

Completely forgot about that. TS1 did 6.6x so it would still have done 4x+ (wanted to highlight movies that did 4x+).

Edited September 2, 2017 by a2knet

[kayumanggi]

CARS III is the best in the series, imo. The films, all three of them, have some, if not the most amazing visuals among Pixar films.

[WrathOfHan]

36 minutes ago, DAJK said:

9/11 is only opening in approx 400 theatres according to mojo.

 

that 911k opening looking more and more likely

 

[Eevin]

2 hours ago, a2knet said:

TD	YD	Title (Click to View)	Studio	Daily Gross	% +/- YD / LW		Theaters / Avg		Gross To-Date	Day
1	1	The Hitman's Bodyguard	LG/S	$2,430,000	+139%	-23%	3,370	$721	$47,124,214	15
2	2	Annabelle: Creation	WB (NL)	$1,830,000	+152%	-28%	3,358	$545	$83,505,598	22
3	3	Wind River	Wein.	$1,500,000	+185%	+4%	2,602	$576	$13,922,437	29
4	6	Leap!	Wein.	$1,071,000	+214%	-34%	2,705	$396	$7,565,803	8
5	4	Logan Lucky	BST	$1,063,105	+126%	-22%	2,975	$357	$18,093,592	15
6	5	Dunkirk	WB	$930,000	+99%	-22%	2,752	$338	$175,559,545	43
7	7	Spider-Man: Homecoming	Sony	$800,000	+146%	-1%	2,036	$393	$321,201,546	57
8	9	Girls Trip	Uni.	$583,000	+131%	-26%	1,607	$363	$109,842,515	43
9	10	The Emoji Movie	Sony	$485,000	+94%	-22%	2,108	$230	$78,361,714	36
10	-	Close Encounters Of The Third Kind (2017 Re-Release)	Sony	$485,000	-	-	901	$538	$485,000	1
11	11	Despicable Me 3	Uni.	$471,000	+142%	+11%	2,132	$221	$256,006,230	64
12	-	Wonder Woman	WB	$430,000	+139%	-12%	1,808	$238	$407,449,021	92
-	8	The Nut Job 2: Nutty by Nature	ORF	$427,837	+59%	-27%	2,651	$161	$24,268,341	22
-	12	The Dark Tower	Sony	$360,000	+86%	-31%	1,820	$198	$46,191,894	29

[Eevin]

1 hour ago, iJackSparrow said:

Spider-Man: Homecoming's and Wonder Woman's drops from last weekend also stand out when compared with everything else. What a fucking AMAZING year for superhero films not just when we talk about quality, but box office as well. I couldn't be more happier. Like @ZeeSoh, I do think that reaching $900m+ with China has definitely become a possibility for Homecoming. Wonder Woman gets to be the biggest domestic film of the year and Spidey gets worldwide. I couldn't be more stoked and happier. The superhero genre wins together when we get films like what we get this year so far. Let's hope that Ragnarok and the League keep the trend going. 

weeeelllll

Despicable Me 3

Domestic:	$256,006,230	26.2%
+ Foreign:	$720,318,122	73.8%
= Worldwide:	$976,324,352

[ZattMurdock]

1 minute ago, Eevin said:

weeeelllll

Despicable Me 3

Domestic:	$256,006,230	26.2%
+ Foreign:	$720,318,122	73.8%
= Worldwide:	$976,324,352

I mean among superhero films. Couldn't care less about DM3 or BatB. 

[Zakiyyah6]

7 minutes ago, iJackSparrow said:

I mean among superhero films. Couldn't care less about DM3 or BatB. 

Thought it was obvious that you were talking about Superhero films. You know because everybody knows BATB, F8 and DM3 will gross more worldwide.