TalismanRing Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 57 minutes ago, harry713 said: Disney will probably come out the winner for 2017, but WB will likely have a higher profit margin. Disney's biggest "loss" is Cars 3 - and even that did double it's large budget - but that more than pays for itself with merchandise + DVD and video sales.. They haven't had any big losses though like King Arthur. Then there were the lower profile duds - The House, Fist Fight, Chips, Unforgettable. Live By Night's losses (as mentioned above) were also sizable though those might have gone on last year's ledger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) Cars3 looking at around 20m usd in China...total. Even Smurfs3 did 25m usd. I thought China would push Cars3 to 400-450 ww, but it's looking to end it's global run at ~360 ww. Less than SLOP's dom and close to INSIDE OUT's dom. Just amazing. Edited September 13, 2017 by a2knet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Movie Distributor Gross Change Thtrs. Per Thtr. Total Gross Days - (2) Home Again Open Road $1,153,987 +85% 2,940 $393 $10,347,313 5 - (8) Spider-Man: Homecoming Sony Pictures $233,482 +72% 1,657 $141 $328,064,094 68 - (10) Girls Trip Universal $125,505 +54% 1,123 $112 $113,585,150 54 - (13) The Emoji Movie Sony Pictures $109,794 +110% 1,450 $76 $82,757,562 47 - (14) All Saints Sony Pictures $89,031 +70% 834 $107 $4,745,622 19 - (15) The Dark Tower Sony Pictures $85,626 +68% 948 $90 $49,047,210 40 - (-) Despicable Me 3 Universal $82,595 +65% 1,274 $65 $260,114,060 75 - (-) Baby Driver Sony Pictures $67,729 +47% 618 $110 $106,678,780 77 - (-) War for the Planet of the Apes 20th Century Fox $64,354 +78% 653 $99 $145,430,131 61 - (-) The Nut Job 2: Nutty by Nature Open Road $55,462 +117% 1,235 $45 $27,549,692 33 - (-) Birth of the Dragon BH Tilt $49,010 +51% 702 $70 $6,651,965 19 - (-) Atomic Blonde Focus Features $42,595 +40% 390 $109 $51,114,385 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochofles Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) - (11) Wonder Woman Warner Bros. $80,023 +45% 961 $83 TOTAL: $410,636,924 103 Edited September 13, 2017 by Cochofles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, a2knet said: Cars3 looking at around 20m usd in China...total. Even Smurfs3 did 25m usd. I thought China would push Cars3 to 400-450 ww, but it's looking to end it's global run at ~360 ww. Less than SLOP's dom and close to INSIDE OUT's dom. Just amazing. Cars 3 still has Germany and Italy so it can get a little higher than that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 minute ago, John Marston said: Cars 3 still has Germany and Italy so it can get a little higher than that Yes. Cars 2 did 18.2 + 14.4 = 32.6 in Germany + Italy. Cars 3 I guess can do 15+ and make it to 375. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 (1) It Warner Bros. $11,435,492 +31% 4,103 $2,787 $143,600,390 5 2 (2) Home Again Open Road $1,153,987 +85% 2,940 $393 $10,347,313 5 - (4) Wind River Weinstein Co. $540,916 +68% 2,890 $187 $25,786,894 40 - (5) Annabelle: Creation Warner Bros. $354,876 +53% 3,003 $118 $96,856,855 33 - (7) Dunkirk Warner Bros. $255,559 +47% 2,110 $121 $183,450,867 54 - (9) Leap! Weinstein Co. $235,232 +78% 2,691 $87 $16,185,424 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) IT will cross 150 on Day 6. Some of us War of Apes fans are so jealous Edited September 13, 2017 by a2knet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 6 hours ago, LonePirate said: I think we have reached the point where IT has moved past the wildly successful trailer as its source of business to WOM and cultural phenomenon status now driving ticket sales. Studios should definitely learn this lesson from IT: a great trailer can lead to a huge opening weekend. Of course, the recent uptick in scary clown sightings/mythology in contemporary cultural helped as well. I don't know what lesson you can take from this. I mean, how do you replicate it. Stephen King films have never set the box office on fire. This one bucked that trend. September is usually a barren (see what I did there....lol) wasteland for films. IT bucked that trend. WB never in their wildest dreams could see this coming, hence the miniscule budget. IT bucked all box office trends Yes, the trailer caught on. But no one saw that coming. The point is, I'm not sure what kind of lesson is here. 80's and 90's nostalgia sells? But that's not always true either. You can find a litany of remakes that didn't catch on. Footloose, Vacation and pick most horror remakes. So the lesson here is that the more we think we know about the film business, the more the universe extends its middle finger to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Tuesday increases are just insane these days. 85% for Home Again? The first Tuesday? Damn! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 20 minutes ago, Stutterng baumer Denbrough said: Tuesday increases are just insane these days. 85% for Home Again? The first Tuesday? Damn! Also Florida theaters slowly but surely getting their power back (more than a third is still without). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Tran Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 hours ago, LonePirate said: Possibly. However, Disney is the runaway leader when you add in merchandising. For WB, the films are the end product, mostly. For Disney, the films are merely commercials for products and product branding which bring in billions of bucks. Cars 3 was not made because the previous film was a massive box office or critical success. Uh nah man. IT can and will move merch. Potter moves merch. Wonder Wonder has already moved tons of merch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 5 hours ago, FantasticBeasts said: You are right and that's giving 90m to COCO and 210m to Thor3? Isn't that awfully low??? (especially for CoCo) Thor should eb higher but there is no way SW8 is doing 725. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, Johnny Tran said: Uh nah man. IT can and will move merch. Potter moves merch. Wonder Wonder has already moved tons of merch. Not a lot of money in red ballons 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpot Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, fmpro said: Not a lot of money in red ballons What about clown costumes for Halloween? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, Johnny Tran said: Uh nah man. IT can and will move merch. Potter moves merch. Wonder Wonder has already moved tons of merch. WB makes a nice chunk with merchandising but no other company is in the same stratosphere as Disney. http://www.licensemag.com/license-global/top-150-licensors-report-272b-sales Quote March 2017 Highlights of this year’s Top 150 Global Licensors report include: The Walt Disney Company, which includes Lucasfilm, Marvel, ABC, ESPN, Disney-Pixar and Walt Disney Studios, continues to dominate the brand licensing sector in the No. 1 position, with $56.6 billion in licensed merchandise retail sales in 2016, an increase of 8 percent from the previous year. Performance was driven by another year of blockbuster releases including Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, Finding Dory, Captain America: Civil War, The Jungle Book, Zootopia and Moana. Global publishing house Meredith maintains its No. 2 position with $22.8 billion in retail sales of licensed products for brands such as Better Homes and Gardens, Shape, Allrecipes, EatingWell and more. Rounding out the top 10 global licensors are: No. 3 PVH Corp., which owns fashion powerhouse brands Calvin Klein and Tommy Hilfiger ($18B); No. 4 Iconix Brand Group, a brand management firm with a diverse roster that includes Mossimo, Umbro and Peanuts ($12B); No. 5 Warner Bros. Consumer Products, which saw big success with its DC Universe and Harry Potter franchises in 2016 as well as TV properties such as ”The Big Bang Theory” (6.5B); No. 6 Hasbro ($6.2B); No. 7 Universal Brand Development ($6.1B); No. 8 Nickelodeon ($5.5B); No. 9 Major League Baseball ($5.5B); and No. 10 IMG College Licensing/Collegiate Licensing Company ($4.5B). Universal Brand Development jumps four spots from No. 11 in 2016 to No. 7 this year, following its acquisition of DreamWorks Animation in 2016. The group also saw growth within its other divisions including Universal Pictures, Illumination Entertainment and NBCUniversal. Other companies that climbed the ranks include The POkemon Company International, which moved up 10 spots to No. 19 on momentum from the brand’s 20th anniversary in 2016 and the global phenomenon that was the “Pokemon Go” mobile app; machinery brand Caterpillar, which jumped four spots to No. 24 after finding success in the smartphone market with the launch of the first-ever phone with thermal imaging; Moose Toys, which moved up an incredible 84 spots to No. 53 following the runaway retail success of its collectible toy brand Shopkins; Rovio Entertainment, which got a boost from The Angry Birds Movie that propelled it up 16 spots to No. 63; and Sony Pictures, which saw increased sales for both classic and new Ghostbusters merchandise following its reboot of the franchise, propelling it up 5 spots to No. 87. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, Rumpot said: What about clown costumes for Halloween? Somehow, I don't think WB had a monopoly on red noses and clown wigs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Tran Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 So what's the end game here are we still talking box office properties or are we going to start talking ESPN and HBO next? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpot Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, TalismanRing said: Somehow, I don't think WB had a monopoly on red noses and clown wigs. Sure, but branding matters. An official costume should sell well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Craig Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Too bad Dark Tower wasn't adapted more faithful. That film is an example of what happens when you cut corners and miscast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
