Ozymandias Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Covenant was forgettable pandering although Fassbender did some career best work in it, don't care at all that it underperformed. Scott and co should've made a Prometheus sequel. Always better to aim high and risk failing than playing it safe imo. Blade Runner 2049 bombing though, that hurts though. Well, I don't know if Blade Runner needs or should have more than 2 movies. Alien certainly didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim22 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 You can see that everyone wanted Blade Runner to succeed because the box office articles today are very defensive. Wonder why they can't afford the same courtesy to say, a Transformers movie. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulder Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Just now, Squadron Leader Tele said: Could you report the post, please? Just did but I've reported similar posts from people over the past few months and while yeah as someone who's not a part of the moderator and administrator group, I don't see everything but from what I can see not much is done to curb the issues when actual trolls who basically just exist to troll are left unbanned and that's a bigger issue then people who at least join the discussion at times albeit do it in a toxic manner frequently. I'm not saying that there can't be disagreements, it's a movie forum, movies are something where debates get heated frequently and that's fine, but the constant snideness and toxicity has just gotten incredibly unpleasant to be around and read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 minute ago, grim22 said: You can see that everyone wanted Blade Runner to succeed because the box office articles today are very defensive. Wonder why they can't afford the same courtesy to say, a Transformers movie. Or VALERIAN, or A:C, or any number of underperformers. They're hardly objective -- in this particular case they admired the movie. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Mulder said: Just did but I've reported similar posts from people over the past few months and while yeah as someone who's not a part of the moderator and administrator group, I don't see everything but from what I can see not much is done to curb the issues when actual trolls who basically just exist to troll are left unbanned and that's a bigger issue then people who at least join the discussion at times albeit do it in a toxic manner frequently. I'm not saying that there can't be disagreements, it's a movie forum, movies are something where debates get heated frequently and that's fine, but the constant snideness and toxicity has just gotten incredibly unpleasant to be around and read. All due respect, but how do you know nothing's been done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 minute ago, grim22 said: You can see that everyone wanted Blade Runner to succeed because the box office articles today are very defensive. Wonder why they can't afford the same courtesy to say, a Transformers movie. Links to those articles? also yes, people root for movies like Pirates and Transformers to fail but then get a rude awakening when it happens to movies they like as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulder Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Just now, Squadron Leader Tele said: All due respect, but how do you know nothing's been done? I didn't say nothing's been done and that's why I included a clause that I don't see everything behind the scenes, however when there's visible troll accounts which exist just to troll that still aren't banned then it just to me shows that there's still a problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TalismanRing said: It'd be a very good result if the budget wasn't at least 3x as big. This movie wasn't completely on my radar so I didn't know the budget until the last few weeks but assumed it was closer to Arrival than Mad Max 4. I was also surprised when tracking numbers started appearing at $40m+ and then $50m+ by the trades and B.O. sites. I don't think it's 20-20 hindsight thinking they made a big mistake overestimating the demand and audience for this film. I think it was an extreme lack of foresight in the never ending chase of IP that could hopefully spawn sequels. It's just the artier side of a studio spending $200m on a movie based on You Sunk My Battleship. From Alcon's POV, a sequel to Blade Runner made sense. It had a strong afterlife with home entertainment. I think Warner Bros were more hesitant hence why they only distribute it domestically. Edited October 7, 2017 by Jonwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aabattery Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) I burnt my pizza. Proof that this weekend is a disaster. Edited October 7, 2017 by aabattery 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 BR's massive budget is going to kill it more than anything. Whoever decided to greenlight that budget kind of didn't think this through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Just now, Mojoguy said: BR's massive budget is going to kill it more than anything. Whoever decided to greenlight that budget kind of didn't think this through. It was financed by Alcon and Sony. I don't think you could do Blade Runner on the cheap, I imagine getting Harrison Ford back cost them a pretty penny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder / Operator Shawn Robbins Posted October 7, 2017 Founder / Operator Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 minute ago, grim22 said: You can see that everyone wanted Blade Runner to succeed because the box office articles today are very defensive. Wonder why they can't afford the same courtesy to say, a Transformers movie. This is one reason I try to ignore the sensationalism of box office reporting in certain corners of the Internet. It's one thing to give detailed reasons and/or hypotheses as to why a movie didn't measure up to box office expectations. It's a completely different beast to impose subjective, negative opinions about a movie or franchise onto said movie or franchise just because the author has what he/she thinks is an opportunity to get on their podium when the movie they're rooting against fails on some level. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGamer Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, aabattery said: I burnt my pizza. Proof that this weekend is a disaster. It's not all bad. You had a thread close down for a bit. That's gotta amount to something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Mulder said: I didn't say nothing's been done and that's why I included a clause that I don't see everything behind the scenes, however when there's visible troll accounts which exist just to troll that still aren't banned then it just to me shows that there's still a problem. I dunno what to say. I guess we disagree in some areas, given the post you reported. I don't think it falls into the categories you're talking about. In terms of other people or other situations, we're generally fairly lenient here -- and always have been -- so again, I'm not sure what to say. I feel like we hand out enough suspensions and bans, and unless something significantly changes, I don't see us getting a lot harsher suddenly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, aabattery said: I burnt my pizza. Proof that this weekend is a disaster. How burnt are we talking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 minute ago, aabattery said: I burnt my pizza. Proof that this weekend is a disaster. after that pizza pringles picture i'm not sure you ever deserve good pizza again. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulder Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Squadron Leader Tele said: I dunno what to say. I guess we disagree in some areas, given the post you reported. I don't think it falls into the categories you're talking about. In terms of other people or other situations, we're generally fairly lenient here -- and always have been -- so again, I'm not sure what to say. I feel like we hand out enough suspensions and bans, and unless something significantly changes, I don't see us getting a lot harsher suddenly. Agree to disagree then I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aabattery Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 Just now, WrathOfHan said: How burnt are we talking? It was a somewhat false alarm. It's a bit crunchy but it was mostly the cheese on the edges. The numbers are bad, but the pizza is still good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I know I joked earlier about Blade Runner 2079 but I wouldn't be surprised if a future financier company or studio does decide to make a third Blade Runner in 30 years time, with motion captured Harrison Ford and 66 year old Ryan Gosling and whoever the big auteur director is in the year 2047. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, Jonwo said: From Alcon's POV, a sequel to Blade Runner made sense. It had a strong afterlife with home entertainment. I think Warner Bros were more hesitant hence why they only distribute it domestically. A sequel made sense. Not one at $150-185m not including P&A though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
