JGAR4LIFE Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Toy Story 4 better have a good hook aside from "muhhh nostalgia" Lots of people agree that the 3rd one ended perfectly and closed the franchise as a trilogy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, CoolEric258 said: I dunno, I feel like being a 2020 release will dampen GvK's chances at making $1B in 2019. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 34 minutes ago, JGAR4LIFE said: That's 2020 buddy Lol, oops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royce Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) 59 minutes ago, November Treejax said: Can someone please explain why Aladdin will make more money than Jungle Book? Let alone 400M more... lol Some factors to consider: The original animated film was the #1 movie of the year 1992 both domestic and worldwide Was also the highest grossing animated movie of all time until The Lion King surpassed it Aladdin was popular for boys growing up, Princess Jasmine for girls (made a lot more $$$ in merchandise than Beauty and the Beast) Its Broadway musical adaptation was the 3rd highest grossing show of 2016, with The Lion King at #1 It's a big brand, the second most popular film of the Disney Renaissance era only behind, again, The Lion King A Whole New World alone is more popular than any Jungle Book song (the pop version of the song and is the first and so far only song from a Disney animated film to top the US Billboard Hot 100) It's just as 4-quadrant as The Jungle Book but will also have a lot more CGI spectacles and action involving magic and fantastical elements, even more than BATB (so possibly a bigger OS appeal) that includes: The Agrabah landscape with its enormous scale, it's a whole fantasy city with a huge palace (if they pull it off) Genie/Jafar and their powers The Cave of Wonders sequence, Aladdin escaping using the magic carpet The arrival of Prince Ali A Whole New World sequence etc. Edited April 10, 2018 by Royce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Royce said: Some factors to consider: The original animated film was the #1 movie of the year 1992 both domestic and worldwide Was also the highest grossing animated movie of all time until The Lion King surpassed it Aladdin was popular for boys growing up, Princess Jasmine for girls (made a lot more $$$ in merchandise than Beauty and the Beast) Its Broadway musical adaptation was the 3rd highest grossing show of 2016, with The Lion King at #1 It's a big brand, the second most popular film of the Disney Renaissance era only behind, again, The Lion King A Whole New World alone is more popular than any Jungle Book song (the pop version of the song and is the first and so far only song from a Disney animated film to top the US Billboard Hot 100) It's just as 4-quadrant as The Jungle Book but will also have a lot more CGI spectacles and action involving magic and fantastical elements, even more than BATB (so possibly a bigger OS appeal) that includes: The Agrabah landscape with its enormous scale, it's a whole fantasy city with a huge palace (if they pull it off) Genie/Jafar and their powers The Cave of Wonders sequence, Aladdin escaping using the magic carpet The arrival of Prince Ali A Whole New World sequence etc. And to all this I say yet again... Guy Ritchie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royce Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said: And to all this I say yet again... Guy Ritchie. Bill Condon (BATB) made two Twilight movies Jon Favreau (Jungle Book) made Iron Man 2 Let's hope the Disney magic works with Guy Ritchie as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Royce said: Bill Condon (BATB) made two Twilight movies Jon Favreau (Jungle Book) made Iron Man 2 Let's hope the Disney magic works with Guy Ritchie as well You act as if BATB (2017) was a good movie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royce Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 minute ago, YourMother the Edgelord said: You act as if BATB (2017) was a good movie. Good enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Royce said: Bill Condon (BATB) made two Twilight movies Jon Favreau (Jungle Book) made Iron Man 2 Let's hope the Disney magic works with Guy Ritchie as well It has nothing to do with the so called "quality" of Ritchie's work. It's the fact that he has an extremely distinct style that he seems incapable of detaching from and has yet to be diluted in any of his movies. And it's a bit of a niche style that makes 4 quad appeal fairly impossible even when he's working in a blockbuster franchise with an A list draw like the Sherlock movies. And the idea of his style for Aladdin is just jarring to say the least. Now maybe Disney neuters him and forces their vision on him, but if that's the case I can't imagine why he would have done it? One could argue maybe they threw a big paycheck his way, but then that begs the question of why Disney would have done that? He's not some huge director with huge grosses on his resume that they would have been desperate to nab or anything. Edited April 10, 2018 by MovieMan89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royce Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said: It has nothing to do with the so called "quality" of Ritchie's work. It's the fact that he has an extremely distinct style that he seems incapable of detaching from and has yet to be diluted in any of his movies. And it's a bit of a niche style that makes 4 quad appeal fairly impossible even when he's working in a blockbuster franchise with an A list draw like the Sherlock movies. And the idea of his style for Aladdin is just jarring to say the least. Now maybe Disney neuters him and forces their vision on him, but if that's the case I can't imagine why he would have done it? One could argue maybe they threw a big paycheck his way, but then that begs the question of why Disney would have done that? He's not some huge director with huge grosses on his resume that they would have been desperate to nab or anything. Hmm you have a point I guess I'm just being too optimistic especially with this concept art they teased I know it's just one image but it just seems like a general, Disneyfied big scale film (or maybe it's just me) I guess we're just gonna have to wait and see (the trailer) Edited April 10, 2018 by Royce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattW Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) 650-680 - Star Wars 9 570-600 - Lion King 485-515 - Avengers 4 370-400 - Aladdin 335-365 - Wonder Woman 2 320-350 - Toy Story 4 310-340 - Frozen 2 290-310 - Spiderman Homecoming 2 280-300 - Pets 2 240-260 - IT Chapter 2 210-230 - Dumbo 200-220 - Captain Marvel 190-200 - Bond 25 (if it happens?) 180-190 - Shazam! 160-170 - Godzilla 2 1430 (665+765) - Star Wars 9 1400 (500+900) - Avengers 4 1300 (585+715) - The Lion King 1100 (390+710) - Frozen 2 900 (385+515) - Aladdin 900 (325+575) - Pets 2 850 (300+550) - Spider-Man: Homecoming 2 850 (195+655) - Bond 25 800 (350+450) - Wonder Woman 2 800 (325+475) - Toy Story 4 600 (210+390) - Captain Marvel 550 (220+330) - Dumbo 540 (165+375) - Godzilla 2 525 (250+275) - IT Chapter 2 480 (185+295) - Shazam! As far as I know Jumanji 2 isn't scheduled yet (Sony "hopes" for Dec '19), and I have my doubts about Bond staying on the schedule for 2019, but for now it appears to be there. Edited April 13, 2018 by MattW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juby Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, MattW said: 650-680 - Star Wars 9 1430 (665+765) - Star Wars 9 SW9 won't increase form TLJ, no chance. No Luke, no Han, no Laia, it will be 5th movie in only 4 years, and EVIII has very mixed reception. I wouldn't be surprised if it drops as JL after BvS did. Avengers 4 will be bigger OS and WW, maybe DOM as well. Edited April 13, 2018 by Juby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothar Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 13 hours ago, MattW said: 270-290 - Wonder Woman 2 13 hours ago, MattW said: 800 (350+450) - Wonder Woman 2 What why so different prediction in one post ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Juby said: SW9 won't increase form TLJ, no chance. No Luke, no Han, no Laia, it will be 5th movie in 4 only years, and EVIII has very mixed reception. I wouldn't be surprised if it drops as JL after BvS did. Avengers 4 will be bigger OS and WW, maybe DOM as well. SW9 will be the end of the trilogy. It should rebound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattW Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 53 minutes ago, Juby said: SW9 won't increase form TLJ, no chance. No Luke, no Han, no Laia, it will be 5th movie in 4 only years, and EVIII has very mixed reception. I wouldn't be surprised if it drops as JL after BvS did. Avengers 4 will be bigger OS and WW, maybe DOM as well. My first guess is that 9 will open pretty much the same as 8 and then have slightly better legs mostly because of the schedule, it doesn't have Christmas and NY's eve landing on the weekends hurting some of its best days. 50 minutes ago, Lothar said: What why so different prediction in one post ? Oops, not sure what happened there. Fixed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 minute ago, MattW said: My first guess is that 9 will open pretty much the same as 8 and then have slightly better legs mostly because of the schedule, it doesn't have Christmas and NY's eve landing on the weekends hurting some of its best days. Actually you have a very important point there. The schedule can make a huge difference to a films gross 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juby Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 hour ago, peludo said: SW9 will be the end of the trilogy. It should rebound. Not this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothar Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, MattW said: 550-600 - Star Wars 9 570-600 - Lion King 560-660 - Avengers 4 400-550 - Aladdin 400-480 - Wonder Woman 2 320-350 - Toy Story 4 400-500 - Frozen 2 320-410 - Spiderman Homecoming 2 280-300 - Pets 2 300-380- IT Chapter 2 210-230 - Dumbo 340-450 - Captain Marvel 190-200 - Bond 25 (if it happens?) 280-380 - Shazam! 160-170 - Godzilla 2 1300 (600+700) - Star Wars 9 1500 (600+900) - Avengers 4 1300 (585+715) - The Lion King 1150 (440+710) - Frozen 2 1000 (450+650) - Aladdin 900 (325+575) - Pets 2 900 (350+550) - Spider-Man: Homecoming 2 850 (195+655) - Bond 25 800 (350+450) - Wonder Woman 2 920 (450+520) - Toy Story 4 850 (400+450) - Captain Marvel 550 (220+330) - Dumbo 540 (165+375) - Godzilla 2 800 (350+450) - IT Chapter 2 850 (300+550) - Shazam! That looks cool Edited April 13, 2018 by Lothar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAJK Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 IX can totally increase on TLJ. ROTS increased from ATOC, and yea sure that had the Vader hook but I'm willing to bet Disney is going to at least market this one with a hook of its own. They'd be dumb not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 4 hours ago, peludo said: SW9 will be the end of the trilogy. It should rebound. If WOM is amazing, then maybe a small increase. But I won't be surprised if it opens to something like 175m, so it would have some work to do for legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, DAJK said: IX can totally increase on TLJ. ROTS increased from ATOC, and yea sure that had the Vader hook but I'm willing to bet Disney is going to at least market this one with a hook of its own. They'd be dumb not to. Agreed. With the exception of force ghost Luke, there will be no marketing factor of having the OT actors in there. I’m curious what they’ll do to draw audiences back in. Personally, I’d kill for a scene between Kylo and Force Ghost Anakin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...