Amadeus Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Nice! But Star Wars IX will probably make less than TLJ. Remember, one of the biggest reasons why ROTS made more than AotC was the fact it showed how Vader became Vader. Will Episode IX even have a half as crucial moment? I think 180/630 is decent enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Insane year to predict, but here goes: 1. E9 - 825M 2. Avengers 4 - $465M 3. Frozen 2 - $415M 4. The Lion King - $410M 5. Toy Story 4 - $405M 6. Wonder Woman 2 - $390M 7. Spiderman Homecoming 2 - $345M 8. Aladdin - $315M 9. IT 2 - $300M 10. Secret Life of Pets 2 - $295M 11. Captain Marvel - $275M 12. Dumbo - $250M 13. LEGO Movie 2 - $240M 14. Shazam - $230M 15. Gambit - $220M 16. Hobbs and Shaw - $205M 17. Wicked - $190M 18. How to Train Your Dragon 3 - $175M 19. Godzilla: King of Monsters - $170M 20. Bond 25 - $170M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 What's with all the lowballing TS4? Lots are going sub 350, which seems crazy unless it's awful. All three in the trilogy will adjust to around 415-500m by 2019 prices, and the franchise has remained as relevant as ever among kids from what I can tell. People are inflating TLK way too much, the two will eat into each other and both likely end up with grosses around 400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Disney has already won the 2019 box office and it isn't even 2018 yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmbbox2390 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, MovieMan89 said: Insane year to predict, but here goes: 1. E9 - 825M 2. Avengers 4 - $465M 3. Frozen 2 - $415M 4. The Lion King - $410M 5. Toy Story 4 - $405M 6. Wonder Woman 2 - $390M 7. Spiderman Homecoming 2 - $345M 8. Aladdin - $315M 9. IT 2 - $300M 10. Secret Life of Pets 2 - $295M 11. Captain Marvel - $275M 12. Dumbo - $250M 13. LEGO Movie 2 - $240M 14. Shazam - $230M 15. Gambit - $220M 16. Hobbs and Shaw - $205M 17. Wicked - $190M 18. How to Train Your Dragon 3 - $175M 19. Godzilla: King of Monsters - $170M 20. Bond 25 - $170M I highly doubt that The Lion King is going to make less than Frozen 2. I even think there’s a chance that The Lion King could be #1 domestic and overseas in 2019 over Star Wars Episode IX. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSequel Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Assuming these movies all come out in 2019: 1) The Lion King- $255/$850/$2.1b 2) Ep 9- $245/$825/$1.9b 3) Avengers 4- $205/$450/$1.4b 4) Wonder Woman 2- $150/$420/$950 5) Frozen 2- $95(3 day)/$390/$1.3b 6) Toy Story 4- $110/$370/$940 7) Aladdin- $100/$360/$900 8) Homecoming 2- $120/$305/$910 9) Captain Marvel- $105/$295/$650 10) IT 2- $115/$270/$580 11) Secret Life of Pets 2- $75/$230/$680 12) Suicide Squad 2- $90/$220/$705 13) Shazam- $75/$215/$490 14) Wicked- $55/$210/$640 15) Bond 25- $75/$200/$905 16) LEGO 2- $60/$190/$370 17) Gambit- $65/$180/$500 18) Jordan Peele Project- $50/$170/$340 19) HTTYD 3- $45/$160/$610 20) Godzilla 2- $60/$160/$760 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpireCity Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2019 will be the biggest financial (non-adjusted) year on record. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I have a feeling Nicole won’t be a huge grosser but it’s a Christmas comedy which will make decent money on a modest budget Bond 25 I imagine unless it’s on par with Skyfall will probably do similar numbers to Spectre or slightly less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebeccas Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I actually shed a tear for all the money Disney is going to make. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1) The Lion King- $255/$850/$2.1b 2) Ep 9- $245/$825/$1.9b 3) Avengers 4- $205/$450/$1.4b 4) Wonder Woman 2- $150/$420/$950 5) Frozen 2- $95(3 day)/$390/$1.3b 6) Toy Story 4- $110/$370/$940 7) Aladdin- $100/$360/$900 8) Homecoming 2- $120/$305/$910 9) Captain Marvel- $105/$295/$650 Jesus christ disney lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Girl Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Star Wars: Episode IX - 225/788 The Lion King - 210/672 Frozen 2 - 140/441 Wonder Woman 2 - 140/420 Avengers 4 - 175/403 Aladdin - 115/395 Toy Story 4 - 105/326 It: Chapter 2 - 130/312 Secret Life of Pets 2 - 90/295 Captain Marvel - 105/294 Spider-Man: Homecoming 2 - 105/268 Shazam! - 80/204 Godzilla 2 - 80/195 The Lego Movie 2 - 55/192 Gambit - 70/190 Dumbo - 55/186 Gemini Man - 55/179 Hobbs and Shaw - 70/178 Chaos Walking - 58/174 Wicked - 30/165 Top Gun - 65/163 Men in Black - 55/154 Silver and Black - 65/153 How to Train Your Dragon 3 - 40/135 Glass - 45/130 Jordan Peele Project - 36/126 Artemis Fowl - 35/116 Everest - 33/112 John Wick: Chapter 3 - 35/101 Cowboy Ninja Viking - 36/100 The Spongebob Movie - 33/96 Doctor Dolittle - 30/93 Masters of the Universe - 18/90 Minecraft - 31/87 Nicole - 25/83 Angry Birds 2 - 24/80 Margie Claus - 24/77 Call of the Wild - 15/75 Terminator - 30/73 Spies in Disguise - 22/69 Ad Astra - 21/60 The Nightingale - 17/56 The Rosie Project - 21/55 Flarsky - 19/51 Isn't It Romantic - 16/50 Transformers 7 - 21/48 Cars/Planes Spin-Off - 15/48 Charlie's Angels - 18/47 Uglydolls - 14/43 The Force - 16/42 Amusement Park - 13/40 What Men Want - 15/39 Rhythm Section - 14/38 48 Meters Down - 10/31 Eli - 14/29 Playmobil - 9/25 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAJK Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 @The Pumpkin Spice Panda I completely agree that predicting box office is a huge stress releiver when I'm stressed or too busy, so here we go 1/11/19 - What Men Want: $28/85M The original adjusts to nearly $300M at the domestic box office, and while there's almost certainly going to be a HUGE decline, I think Henson has enough of a fanbase to carry a film (I'm also thinking Proud Mary is going to be a decent hit next January). Take in the fact that its January, filled with December holdovers and Oscar expansions, audiences are going to want something a bit different. 1/18/19 - Glass: $45/115M Split was definitely better than pretty much anything Shaymalan has touched in the past 15 years. But I honestly don't know if audiences were as engaged with the twist ending as a lot of film fans probably were. Fans of the original will show up, and I'm sure this'll ride some of the momentum of Split (especially if my boy McAvoy can get some Oscar attention), but in all honesty, I don't even see Unbreakable having any lasting impression on pop culture. Spies in Disguise: $32/122M Blue Sky in January, throw in Smith and Holland, and assuming the trailers have some good gags, I could definitely see this going well and above your typical January animation. 2/8/19 - Lego Movie 2: $60/175M It's no surprise the LEGO movie brand has been slowly declining since 2014. And after the pretty disastrous performance of Ninjago this year, I wouldn't be surprised if many expect this to go even lower. But kids still know who Emmet is, and the Lego brand is still there granted this movie can deliver on the quality front. The LEGO Movie was more than just about gags; it had a lot of heart, which is what I'm hoping this installment can re-capture. Silver and Black: gonna get delayed I'm willing to bet 2/14/19 - Gambit: $55/140M I think this is going to be more of a ho-hum kind of run. Not the Fant4stic disaster people might fear after the troubles production, but nothing worth writing home about either for Fox. This'll be mostly forgotten by the turn of the decade. 3/1/19 - How to Train Your Dragon 3: $40/160M The first movie was magical. The second was good but still suffered quite a big drop. Unlike something like the LEGO Movie, this franchise hasn't really held the attention of the younger generation. Waiting so long between first and second installments I think hurt HTTYD2, and it's going to hurt this one though. I'm optimistic about legs though, because I'm willing to bet the quality is going to be there. 3/8/19 - Captain Marvel: $75/220M It's pretty hard to capture lightning in a bottle twice, and I just don't think this is going to re-capture the magic that was Wonder Woman's box office run. It wasn't because she was a female superhero that that film grossed $400M domestic. It was the first of its kind, the way The Avengers was. And it was great. It was a GREAT film. Now, I've got confidence that Marvel is going to market the shit out of this, and turn it into a nice hit. But nothing about it screams major breakout to me... yet. 3/15/19 - Amusement Park: $27/90M I'm... intrigued? I don't know... amusement parks are fun? This could go one way or another, but since Dragon 2 will probably have legs through Easter, I'm willing to bet this is a modest performer at best. (I'm not going to predict Jordan Peele Project yet because we honestly don't know what the hell it is. Could be a tiny little indie that doesn't have much GA appeal, could be a massive blockbuster. Who knows) 3/22/19 - Godzilla 2: $80/210 I don't try and hide my dislike for the first movie. That piece of ass sucked. I don't discredit Edwards, since I thought he followed it up with a damn good Star Wars flick. But 2014's King of Monsters flick was just terrible: bad acting, bad characters, poor effects, laughable in all the wrong ways, and not a lot of fun. WB followed it up with an admittedly entertaining albeit corny Kong flick, but it was a step in the right direction nonetheless. And the buildup to Kong v Godzilla will be a factor, so I think most audiences will give this another shot. And hopefully the quality is MUCH higher this time around. 3/29/19 - Dumbo: $65/200 And like that, Disney begins its domination of the final year of the 2010's. While I don't think Dumbo the Elephant is near the same league as Simba or Belle, I think Disney has marketing its live action fairy-tales down to a science. While Burton may be an odd choice for a movie that appeals to the GA, he isn't a stranger to it. I'm pretty much anticipating a Cinderella type run. 5/3/19 - Avengers 4: $180/430M If IW is going to be the next 2012's Avengers, 2019's flick is going to be the next Ultron. Why do I think that? Because I thought Ultron would be a 650M grosser and I try and learn from my mistakes. 5/17/19 - John Wick 3: $25/75M While I haven't loved the John Wick movies, many people do. And while the surprise success of the first film led to a great run for the sequel, I don't know if it will be replicated a third time, and here's why. I think there's a difference between seeing a beloved action movie get a follow-up, and seeing said action movie get turned into a full-blown series. More of the same content-wise is going to be on display for John Wick 3, so I think fans of the first 2 will come out, but not many else. Aladdin: $110/370M This will be closer to the Jungle Book than anything (assuming the quality is there). Aladdin is still immensely popular today, and while maybe not Disney's top 1 or 2 properties, it's up there for sure. 90's kids will bring their own families, and like I said earlier, Disney has their marketing down. This is gonna be a hit. 6/7/19 - Charlie's Angels: $20/50M I agree with @The Pumpkin Spice Panda on this one. No one is asking for it. No one cares. No one will care. Secret Life of Pets 2: $115/310M It isn't going to be another Despicable Me 2 or Shrek 2, but kids went nuts for SLOP last year, and the sequel will surely coast on its success. Add in some likely clever marketing on the part of Universal and you've got another hit for Illumination. Toy Story will cut into its late legs however. 6/21/19 - Toy Story 3: $85/330M Ahh, the franchise that made every 90's kid cry at the start of the 2010's looks to close out the decade with hopefully another heartfelt flick. Furthermore, early 90's kids who grew up with the first film, and cried as they left for college when Toy Story 3 came out, will likely be starting families of their own by the end of the decade, and if Toy Story 4 can somehow play on that, I think Pixar could have another hit with them. Competition is going to be strong though. 6/28/19 - Cowboy Ninja Viking: $35/100 I love Pratt. A lot of people do. He's a genuine movie star. But like Passengers proved last year, just because you have hot movie stars doesn't mean your movie is an instant 200M grosser. Cowboy Ninja Viking just seems like too strange a project to go bold on until I see some promotional material. 7/5/19 - Homecoming 2: $130/350M Phew. (in my opinion) the best superhero ever was able to recover from diminishing returns. While I don't think the character is ever going to reach the heights he was at in the early 2000's, his addition to the MCU, and his subsequent role in Infinity War is going to keep him in the spotlight, long enough to have a successful sequel at least. 7/12/19 - Top Gun: $40/110M This is a case of "I don't fucking know". Cruise is a huge movie star, and the original was a smash hit. But like Charlie's Angels, I just don't know who is going to be interested in this. Might do okay on opening weekend, but Lion King is going to blow it out of the water. 7/19/19 - The Lion King: $220/675M No film that has opened over $200M has missed a 3x multiplier (until maybe Infinity War). These films are simply events that transcend normal box office rules. And the Lion King is Disney's ultimate champion. That movie is still extremely significant to kids today, just as it was to kids 20 years ago. And I have faith in Favreau. As long as Disney accepts that it's going to be all downhill from here. 8/2/19 Spongebob 3: $40/110M If you had told me a month before Sponge Out of Water opened that that film was going to do 150M domestic, I would have laughed. "Bah, nobody cares about SpngeBob, we've grown up since then!" Apparently not. I doubt this film is going to replicate #2's success, but people are still into SpongeBob for one reason or another. 8/19/19 - Artemis Fowl: $50/130M Real wildcard. I've never read the books, and I don't really know how popular they are. But being the last family-friendly film in over a month, and with the power of Disney, I think this could make some bank. Worst case scenario is another Tomorrowland, which wouldn't surprise me either. 9/6/18 - IT Chapter 2: $100/265M I'm going to predict lower than most on this. Not that this film won't be big, but I think a decrease from the first film is inevitable. That film was pretty much the definition of lightning in a bottle, with one of the best marketing campaigns in the past few years, a villain that has entered pop culture in the past few years, and the success of a recent Netflix series (yes, I think Stranger Things helped at least a little), IT became the box office story of the year. However, with the factor of kids specifically versus an evil clown gone, I don't think this sequel is going to exceed its predecessor. 9/20/19 - Angry Birds 2: $30/80M First was better than it had any right to be, and it did okay for what it was. But with Everest coming out a week later, I think this film is destined to be just a whatever at the box office. As long as the budget is kept reasonable again, the studio will make a buck from overseas. 9/27/17 - Everest: $42/155M A cool concept for a kids film, a similar release date to the Hotel Transylvania films, and Universal backing the marketing, I think Everest will be a nice little hit. 11/1/19 - Wonder Woman 2 - $130/360M Similar to Captain Marvel, it's unclear whether lightning will strike twice. The different between Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel however is Wonder Woman just had a film that grossed 400M domestically. And people liked it. There's going to be demand for this, even if Justice League disappoints. November and December are packed however, which is why I'm not predicting higher. 11/8/19 - Bond 25 - $75/225M If there's one thing we've learned about the James Bond series its that the success or lack thereof of one film does not influence the performance of the next film. Skyfall managed 300M after the truly awful Quantum of Solace. And then Spectre dropped 33% even though it was following up on one of the best Bond movies ever. If this film is good, the box office will reflect it. Nicole: $45/185M We need more family Christmas movies, there just aren't enough good ones. Enough with the Christmas with the Kranks and Jingle All the Way's, give me something that's actually going to put a smile on my face. I hope y'all learned your lesson for helping turn Arthur Christmas into a bomb, that movie's fantastic. 11/15/19 - Margie Claus: $25/70M I don't think(?) this is going to be a family film? This is under the assumption that this is another hard R Melissa McCarthy comedy. Will fare slightly better than Bad Moms 2 as long as it isn't utter trash. 11/27/19 - Frozen 2: $165/450M This is going to be absolutely massive. Frozen was the closest we've come to a Lion King this century (a movie that's really stuck with kids... that isn't Minions :/...) Disney is just printing money at this point; 2019 is sure to be their banner year. 12/20/19 - Wicked: $27/185M Opening against Star Wars is surely going to put a damper on this movie's first weekend. But, like MamaMia, the Broadway musical for this is absolutley huge, and I'm willing to bet crowds are going to show up for the film adaptation. Christmas season is certainly going to help with legs. 12/20/19 - Star Wars 9: $250/850M Even if Last Jedi grosses closer to 700-750M this year, the finale of this trilogy is sure to go out with a bang. Disney had been hitting it out of the park with Star Wars so far (we'll see how Solo goes) but this is going to be the explosive end of a series that began with, may I remind you, the highest grossing movie of all time domestically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I be honest I think Aladin should move, putting two Disney Classics in one summer is too much 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 17 hours ago, Lordmandeep said: I be honest I think Aladin should move, putting two Disney Classics in one summer is too much It's getting the jump on all the other huge family movies at least, so opening could be big for it. Expect it will have poor legs though. TLK is in the opposite boat, as it's the last of the onslaught so opening could be far more muted than everyone expects from burned out audiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said: It's getting the jump on all the other huge family movies at least, so opening could be big for it. Expect it will have poor legs though. TLK is in the opposite boat, as it's the last of the onslaught so opening could be far more muted than everyone expects from burned out audiences. There is no pressing need to release it, it can easily be a film for March 2020 or something and pull a Jungle Book. I just see diminishing returns and not allowing a film that should be a huge zeitgeist film to be swallowed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, Lordmandeep said: There is no pressing need to release it, it can easily be a film for March 2020 or something and pull a Jungle Book. I just see diminishing returns and not allowing a film that should be a huge zeitgeist film to be swallowed up. Yeah, a 3x multi will be all but impossible for Aladdin given Pets, Toy Story, and TLK all in the 6 weeks following. They put all its stock in the OW with that release date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, MovieMan89 said: Yeah, a 3x multi will be all but impossible for Aladdin given Pets, Toy Story, and TLK all in the 6 weeks following. They put all its stock in the OW with that release date. Disney is overstuffing 2019. They have Frozen 2 in there as well lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Four weeks between TS4 and Lion King; why would they cannibalize each other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, RichWS said: Four weeks between TS4 and Lion King; why would they cannibalize each other? TS4 late legs get amputated and TLK OW is much lower than everyone is expecting because the demo is burned out by that point (not just because of TS4). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, MovieMan89 said: TS4 late legs get amputated and TLK OW is much lower than everyone is expecting because the demo is burned out by that point (not just because of TS4). Ehh, I think both will be just fine. Family tentpoles like that have survived each other in the past. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...