MovieMan89 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, NoLegMan said: According to people on this thread, every drop is a disaster for TLJ that narrative is getting tired and old. it's similar to the past two-star wars films soo far in it's third week. Every drop is a disaster because it’s somehow managed to go from opening 65m higher than RO to looking likely to drop below that movies dailies soon within 3 weeks. That takes a whole lot of shitty holds to accomplish so quickly. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) That's not what @baumer was saying. It isn't a tired argument, just putting into perspective that, with schools still out, the drop should have been better. Are people missing the part of his post where he specifically mentioned schools? Edited January 4, 2018 by Valonqar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLegMan Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 it is still earning more Daily than RO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, NoLegMan said: it is still earning more Daily than RO. More schools are in session for Rogue One during this time period. People screamed about the calendar during the first week when anyone dared to compare it with Rogue's performance. The shoe is on the other foot now. There will be no boost next Monday and we will see where it goes from there. Edited January 4, 2018 by redfirebird2008 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, NoLegMan said: it is still earning more Daily than RO. I should hope so! R1 was just a spoof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, NoLegMan said: it is still earning more Daily than RO. That probably stops Friday or Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLegMan Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 We get you think it's underperforming and is a disaster, but I have seen constant narrative spinning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLegMan Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, MovieMan89 said: That probably stops Friday or Saturday. you said that last week.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 25 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said: Also gonna be a sweet sweet victory when IW beats TLJ DOM this summer. Quote me. WW? Yes. OW? Yes. DOM Total? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) I do think Star Wars is going to become more frontloaded as these movies lose some of their event status. Rogue One’s legs were much smaller than TFA’s with a 155m OW (and not a massive 220m OW that burned off a lot demand), and TLJ followed suit with lower legs than that (However a much larger OW). You see the same trend with the Marvel movies where legs for the ‘big’ openers kept diminishing (despite reception) as the franchise became more frontloaded. With TA having the best, then IM3, then AoU and then CW. And then the lower opening ‘spin-offs’ or solo movies had the mid-range legs around the 2.5x-2.8x range. Take away the inflated holiday legs and TFA’s multi would likely be around 3.1-3.2x or so, RO would be around 2.6-8x, TLJ’s would be around 2.2x-2.3x. I reckon Solo, with good reception, will have around a 2.5-2.7x multi (Deadpool 2 right after is the only issue). I reckon Episode 9 has a multi similar to TLJ, maybe if it’s lighter and more crowd pleasing somewhat higher (maybe right at 3x) Edited January 4, 2018 by New Year New Panda 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLegMan Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) not counting today's numbers TLJ has earned 74.6 million this week, RO had 79 mill for the entire week. Edited January 4, 2018 by NoLegMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, NoLegMan said: you said that last week.... Pretty sure I did not. I said last week what I’m saying now, that it will drop below RO after the holiday boost. And btw, it did nearly drop below RO this past weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said: Every drop is a disaster because it’s somehow managed to go from opening 65m higher than RO to looking likely to drop below that movies dailies soon within 3 weeks. That takes a whole lot of shitty holds to accomplish so quickly. Lol, nothing is a disaster for a 600m grosser. Disappointment? Fine. But Disney’s not losing sleep over the future of Star Wars when they’re having no issues clearing the 500m mark with each SW movie made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLegMan Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?view=daily&id=roguevforce.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, NoLegMan said: We get you think it's underperforming and is a disaster, but I have seen constant narrative spinning. I don't think it's a disaster, but it is underperforming. Still obviously a huge movie. 2017 movies from Tuesday to Tuesday = 40% drop 2016 movies from Tuesday to Tuesday = 53% drop There is clearly more boost for Last Jedi right now than Rogue One if you look at what the other films were doing during this same time period in both years. They both dropped 72% from Tuesday to Tuesday and 76% from Wednesday to Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee11 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 wonder what will happen monday, flat to Rogue One, or below 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, New Year New Panda said: Lol, nothing is a disaster for a 600m grosser. Disappointment? Fine. But Disney’s not losing sleep over the future of Star Wars when they’re having no issues clearing the 500m mark with each SW movie made. TLJ could lose nearly 800m from TFA. Nothing in the world will convince me disney has zero issue with that. There’s a difference between a movie being a bomb and a movie being hugely profitable but signaling potential concern for the future via reception and its decline from it predecessor. TLJ is the latter. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLegMan Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 my guess is it will end at 84-85 mill for the entire week, I am curious about week 4 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLegMan Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said: TLJ could lose nearly 800m from TFA. Nothing in the world will convince me disney has zero issue with that. There’s a difference between a movie being a bomb and a movie being hugely profitable but signaling potential concern for the future via reception and its decline from it predecessor. TLJ is the latter. we don't know what Disney expected internally, that is purely speculation and not even a serious position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpospoke Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 36 minutes ago, REC said: This is definitely not about the alt-right and I bristle at any suggestion that it is. All of my friends and family are liberals or in the liberal-socialist spectrum, and I don't know anyone who likes it. Dear lord this is not about the alt-right. I do have one friend who goes on about the SJW and misguided kathleen kennedy aspects of the story, but those aren't my problems with the movie. In fact I think that's all pretty ridiculous, some of my favorite movies of all time are the kill bill series (those films, especially the first one, emasculate all the men right out of the picture and make everything about female-centric concerns and issues). And all that was over a decade ago. I have no problems with a movie where women run the show, either in front of the camera or behind it. Some of us just think the movie has very real editing, pacing and story problems. Not to mention inconsistencies in how the characters that we grew to love in TFA were now being portrayed in TLJ. Those problems have nothing to do with ruining any childhoods, since I'm only talking about the very real issues it has as a sequel to a movie 2 years old. But the bottom line is tons of people have a lot of problems with this movie for a range of reasons. Some of these reasons I find pretty illegitimate, like the superfans wanting more "badass lightsaber battles" or the aforementioned SJW injections. I don't care about any of that stuff. But it is at a minimum divisive and rubbing a bunch of people the wrong way, even if they can't articulate it very well. I think TLJ is outraging feminists and that is what is effecting the legs. They actually had a female character take the wheel of a starship and proceed to get into a head-on collision within a few seconds. Women drivers...amIright? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
