Weekend Actuals (Page 92): Ant-Man and the Wasp 75.8M (#CRUMBLING EVEN MORE) | Jurassic World 28.6M | Incredibles 2 28.4M | The First Purge 17.4M

[TalismanRing]

6 minutes ago, John Marston said:

 

 

JW FK - 1.2 billion on a 170m budget

 

Ant Man 2 - 620 or so million on a 162m budget

 

If we're taking in whisper numbers then  $187m

 

 (we’re hearing it’s closer to $187M net)

https://deadline.com/2018/06/jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-opening-weekend-projection-global-box-office-reign-1202413485/

Either way comparing these two IPs and the expectations from them is rather ridiculous.   There were arguments over the last year about whether or not JW:FK would beat out AIW.  Now it's getting kudos for making more than AM&TW?

 

It's really all about expectations on this forum.  Several months ago these would have been disappointing numbers for one film and considered very good for the other.  But one film's expectations kept getting lowered and the others inflated and here we are.

 

 

[YM!]

What hurt the ant most in my opinion was opening so after I2/FK, both films of bigger franchises than the Ant Man series that generated shittons of hype, and were aimed at two of Ant Man’s main target demo. Also the sense of urgency didn’t help either but that can help legs.

[manny1234]

10 minutes ago, baumer said:

2.6 is my guess

That would give Ant-Man and the Wasp a 197.08 

[Captain Craig]

1 minute ago, John Marston said:

if Ant-Man 3 gets made it's having a guest star in it

It'll get made and indeed will have another MCU character involved.

They can then retire Ant-Man and use that slot for another Marvel character(probably FF or X-Men related).

[TalismanRing]

1 minute ago, Rebeccas said:

One glimmer of hope is the movie at least had a large % of females than typical Marvel movies.

What % was that?  I haven't seen the demo breakdowns

[Jake Gittes]

1	N	Ant-Man and the Wasp	BV	$75,812,205	-	4,206	-	$18,025	$75,812,205	-	1
2	1	Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom	Uni.	$28,632,375	-53.0%	4,349	-136	$6,584	$333,390,040	$170	3
3	2	Incredibles 2	BV	$28,406,423	-38.8%	4,113	-297	$6,906	$503,767,837	-	4
4	N	The First Purge	Uni.	$17,374,280	-	3,031	-	$5,732	$31,280,225	$13	1
5	3	Sicario: Day of the Soldado	Sony	$7,624,500	-59.9%	3,055	-	$2,496	$35,626,570	$35	2
6	4	Uncle Drew	LG/S	$6,606,643	-56.7%	2,742	-	$2,409	$29,930,263	-	2
7	5	Ocean's 8	WB	$5,067,750	-39.2%	2,604	-822	$1,946	$126,533,978	$70	5
8	6	Tag	WB (NL)	$3,029,790	-48.5%	2,157	-1,019	$1,405	$48,255,471	$28	4
9	10	Won't You Be My Neighbor?	Focus	$2,571,210	+6.2%	893	+239	$2,879	$12,362,937	-	5
10	7	Deadpool 2	Fox	$1,675,074	-53.1%	1,267	-827	$1,322	$314,546,474	$110	8
11	8	Sanju	FIP	$1,281,466	-52.9%	359	+3	$3,570	$5,995,791	-	2
12	N	Whitney	RAtt.	$1,274,051	-	451	-	$2,825	$1,274,051	-	1
13	9	Solo: A Star Wars Story	BV	$1,071,432	-60.1%	778	-876	$1,377	$210,931,529	-	7
14	11	Hereditary	A24	$1,025,173	-55.2%	744	-680	$1,378	$41,885,804	-	5
15	12	Avengers: Infinity War	BV	$936,335	-39.3%	506	-384	$1,850	$674,865,809	-	11
16	N	Sorry to Bother You	Annapurna	$727,266	-	16	-	$45,454	$727,266	-	1
17	25	Three Identical Strangers	Neon	$684,773	+299.3%	51	+46	$13,427	$1,009,720	-	2
18	13	Superfly	Col.	$626,383	-55.4%	535	-622	$1,171	$19,834,783	$16	4
19	14	Book Club	Par.	$433,208	-35.4%	374	-131	$1,158	$67,172,334	-	8
20	22	Leave No Trace	BST	$403,010	+83.9%	37	+28	$10,892	$781,675	-	2
21	15	Rampage (2018)	WB (NL)	$360,156	-40.1%	120	-81	$3,001	$98,984,095	$120	13
22	17	RBG	Magn.	$357,808	-14.0%	164	-26	$2,182	$12,302,369	-	10
23	16	Adrift	STX	$287,966	-46.5%	323	-185	$892	$30,838,250	$35	6
24	18	Hearts Beat Loud	G&S	$253,824	-34.7%	169	-1	$1,502	$1,853,714	-	5
25	35	Boundaries	SPC	$235,994	+402.3%	224	+207	$1,054	$361,908	-	3
26	19	American Animals	Orch.	$149,996	-59.2%	135	-157	$1,111	$2,553,279	-	6
27	N	Fireworks (2018)	GK	$138,011	-	10	-	$13,801	$512,541	-	1
28	24	A Quiet Place	Par.	$136,398	-28.2%	162	-49	$842	$187,446,026	$17	14
29	33	Life of the Party	WB (NL)	$110,435	+70.2%	152	+34	$727	$52,523,382	-	9
30	21	Breaking In (2018)	Uni.	$104,840	-52.5%	92	-46	$1,140	$46,338,445	$6	9
31	28	The Catcher Was a Spy	IFC	$98,199	-16.8%	52	-	$1,888	$484,309	-	3
32	20	Gotti	VE	$82,000	-74.1%	100	-231	$820	$4,265,395	-	4
33	27	Upgrade	BH Tilt	$69,850	-43.4%	83	-13	$842	$11,829,465	-	6
34	29	Pandas	WB	$63,298	-34.8%	35	-	$1,809	$2,739,220	-	14
35	26	First Reformed	A24	$61,632	-58.7%	77	-41	$800	$3,317,308	-	8
36	36	2001: A Space Odyssey (2018 re-release)	WB	$59,946	+50.8%	7	+2	$8,564	$1,222,819	-	8
37	39	The Cakemaker	Strand	$55,613	+66.6%	10	+6	$5,561	$120,271	-	2
38	30	Show Dogs	Global Road	$55,358	-31.7%	132	-14	$419	$17,561,675	-	8
39	32	Damsel	Magn.	$48,306	-34.4%	41	+12	$1,178	$210,297	-	3
40	41	Black Panther	BV	$31,112	-4.0%	52	-28	$598	$699,875,819	-	21

[Barnack]

1 minute ago, TalismanRing said:

What % was that?  I haven't seen the demo breakdowns

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/box-office-ant-man-wasp-crushes-first-purge-76m-1125547#ampshare=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/box-office-ant-man-wasp-crushes-first-purge-76m-1125547

 

45% apparently.

[CoolioD1]

Disney is Done-sney

[Marathon]

Great domestic run for Ocean's 8. Too bad about its international performance, which is frustratingly lackluster. But, I'm hoping it's more of a scheduling issue (it would probably perform better OS outside the summer).

[YM!]

Sell the MCU rights back to Paramount.

[Zakiyyah6]

1 minute ago, John Marston said:

if Ant-Man 3 gets made it's having a guest star in it

Which is just fine. As long as the main focus remains on the hero I am all up for it. And unlike DC Marvel has been good about not shoving the stars of their own movie into the background to prop up another character in event sequels. Captain America is still 100% the star of Winter Solider. Hell, he's even still the star of Civil War despite it being more of a two hander situation. 

[Rebeccas]

2 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

What % was that?  I haven't seen the demo breakdowns

45% I think which is in with BP's and higher than GOTG's (which already had a higher than usual female share).

[TalismanRing]

1 minute ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:

Sell the MCU rights back to Paramount.

They never owned them... 

[YM!]

Just now, TalismanRing said:

They never owned them... 

Sarcasm, the one thing people on BOT forget or ignore

[WrathOfHan]

Ant-Man forecast:

 

Remainder of this week: 31.8M (107.6M Total)

Jul 13: 32.4M (19.8M weekdays, 159.8M Total)

Jul 20: 19.8M (12.5M weekdays, 192.1M Total)

Jul 27: 12.3M (7.1M weekdays, 211.5M Total)

Aug 3: 6.8M (4.3M weekdays, 222.6M Total)

Aug 10: 4.6M (2.6M weekdays, 229.8M Total)

Aug 17: 3.3M (1.9M weekdays, 235M Total)

Aug 24: 2.8M (1.3M weekdays, 239.1M Total)

Aug 31: 3.4M (1.3M weekdays, 243.8M Total)

Sep 7: 1M (300k weekdays, 245.1M Total)

Final Total: 248M (3.27x)

 

I still don't see this having a worse multi than SMH. The competition is much weaker than last July, and most of August is pretty barren. We'll see, but all this talk of it missing 200M is hilarious.

Edited July 9, 2018 by WrathOfHan

[baumer]

3 hours ago, TalismanRing said:

If we're taking in whisper numbers then  $187m

 

 (we’re hearing it’s closer to $187M net)

https://deadline.com/2018/06/jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-opening-weekend-projection-global-box-office-reign-1202413485/

Either way comparing these two IPs and the expectations from them is rather ridiculous.   There were arguments over the last year about whether or not JW:FK would beat out AIW.  Now it's getting kudos for making more than AM&TW?

 

It's really all about expectations on this forum.  Several months ago these would have been disappointing numbers for one film and considered very good for the other.  But one film's expectations kept getting lowered and the others inflated and here we are.

 

 

 

Kudos?  No.  Just comparing the budgets, that's all.  There's a very small but loud segment of the members here who have shit on JW for declining 25% from the last film.  But when you look at the budget for JW and realize that it's going to double Ant-man, which had a bigger budget, it's just food for thought.

[John Marston]

Just now, WrathOfHan said:

Ant-Man forecast:

 

Remainder of this week: 31.8M (107.6M Total)

Jul 13: 32.4M (19.8M weekdays, 159.8M Total)

Jul 20: 19.8M (12.5M weekdays, 192.1M Total)

Jul 27: 12.3M (7.1M weekdays, 211.5M Total)

Aug 3: 6.8M (4.3M weekdays, 222.6M Total)

Aug 10: 4.6M (2.6M weekdays, 229.8M Total)

Aug 17: 3.3M (1.9M weekdays, 235M Total)

Aug 24: 2.8M (1.3M weekdays, 239.1M Total)

Aug 31: 3.4M (1.3M weekdays, 243.8M Total)

Sep 7: 1M (300k weekdays, 245.1M Total)

Final Total: 248M (3.27x)

 

I still don't see this having a worse multi than SMH. The competition is much weaker than last July, and most of August is pretty barren.

 

 

huh

 

 

A higher multiplier than the first? 

 

 

Lack of competition? We have Skyscraper and Hotel Transylvania this weekend. Mamma Mia and Equalizer the week after then Mission Impossible on the 27th

[Nova]

Just now, YourMother the Edgelord said:

Sarcasm, the one thing people on BOT forget or ignore

Sarcasm works and is okay when it's aimed at other studios. The moment Disney is involved and especially the MCU, the forum goes: 

 

 

[baumer]

3 hours ago, manny1234 said:

That would give Ant-Man and the Wasp a 197.08 

 

2.64 then.....they'' Puerto Rico it over 200.

[WrathOfHan]

4 minutes ago, John Marston said:

 

 

huh

 

 

A higher multiplier than the first? 

 

 

Lack of competition? We have Skyscraper and Hotel Transylvania this weekend. Mamma Mia and Equalizer the week after then Mission Impossible on the 27th

HT3 will be around 40M and only has overlap with younger kids. Skyscraper is direct competition but might not even open to 30M anymore. Compared to the 56M direct competition SMH had last year, that's nothing. Besides, I have it dropping 57%.

 

Mamma Mia! is not direct competition at all, and The Equalizer is targeting older men. Obviously there's some overlap with the latter but not a significant amount. Both are looking to be O/U 30M as well, so again, not major competition, especially compared to the nearly 100M triple punch of Dunkirk, Girls Trip, and Valerian opening last year.

 

Mission Impossible is big direct competition, but if it already has a good hold the prior weekend, it might not stop when MI opens.

Edited July 9, 2018 by WrathOfHan